The 9/11 Lies Are Out There

The 9/11 Lies Are Out ThereI have friends who believe some of the many 9/11 myths that seem to be seeping into the mainstream. These lies typically include nonsense about the World Trade Center 7 collapse, the lack of Flight 77 debris at the Pentagon and the crash of United Airlines Flight 93 over southwestern Pennsylvania.

Back in January I wrote about how offensive and hurtful conspiracy theories can be, and this is particularly true when talking about 9/11. If you believe the American government had anything to do with 9/11, I beg you to spend a little time reading Debunking the 9/11 Myths: A Special Report from Popular Mechanics. In fact, to help you out, here are links to the specific 9/11 lies that are out there.

Popular Mechanics really did a thorough job here and explain it all.

We assembled a team of reporters and researchers, including professional fact checkers and the editors of PM, and methodically analyzed all 16 conspiracy claims. We interviewed scores of engineers, aviation experts, military officials, eyewitnesses and members of the investigative teams who have held the wreckage of the attacks in their own hands. We pored over photography, maps, blueprints, aviation logs and transcripts. In every single instance, we found that the facts used by conspiracy theorists to support their fantasies were mistaken, misunderstood or deliberately falsified.

I shared my memory and thoughts about 9/11 on the tenth anniversary. You can read that entry here.


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dale

2,996 people died on 9/11 at 3 sites (including 2 in NYC at 2 World Trade Centre bldgs) that was a very tragic loss of innocent lives & especially their families who are still coping.

The world changed Sept. 11/11. Life will never be the same as everyone I'm sure has a different outlook on life overall. We can't continue to keep looking "over our shoulders for what if?" & have to live & cherish each & very day.

"Imagine there's no counties, it isn't hard to do, nothing to kill or die for & no religion too, imagine all the people living life in PEACE"

RIP to all that lost their lives that day & also to those that died trying to make this world a better place to live.

September 11, 2013 @ 7:19 PM

Speysidephil

Conspiracy theories perpetuated by the likes of looney tune George Noory of "Coast to Coast AM" and the Alex Jones's of the world. Unfortunately a lot of people listen to their crap.
As an aside , coast to coast used to be a not bad show with Art Bell, unfortunately it's been hi-jacked.

September 11, 2013 @ 7:51 PM

Icarus

There's no doubt about who carried out the events of the day, but there s controversy as to which foreign intelligence agencies knew about it beforehand.

September 11, 2013 @ 9:09 PM

Corey

Everything is a conspiracy now. I have a friend who is convinced that the contrails from jets are poisonous chemicals being deliberately dispersed to combat global warming or some nonsense. I had no idea, but this is actually a thing now - thousands of people are believing it.

I read an article in the NY Times titled "Why Rational People Buy Into Conspiracy Theories". This was telling:

Conspiracy theories also seem to be more compelling to those with low self-worth, especially with regard to their sense of agency in the world at large. Conspiracy theories appear to be a way of reacting to uncertainty and powerlessness.

Economic recessions, terrorist attacks and natural disasters are massive, looming threats, but we have little power over when they occur or how or what happens afterward. In these moments of powerlessness and uncertainty, a part of the brain called the amygdala kicks into action. ...the amygdala jump-starts the rest of the brain into analytical overdrive — prompting repeated reassessments of information in an attempt to create a coherent and understandable narrative, to understand what just happened, what threats still exist and what should be done now.

September 11, 2013 @ 9:17 PM

CQ

@Corey 21:17
Technically, those jet airplane contrails do counter against the international greenhouse gas build-up. Immediately after 9/11, when the air traffic over the U.S. was entirely cancelled, the global temperature rose measurably if ever so little. The part about 'poisonous chemicals being deliberately dispersed' sounds like folklore embellishment.

September 11, 2013 @ 10:15 PM

CQ

Note: I should say "against the effects of... greenhouse gases". Not as being directly against the gases themselves.
p.s. Here is my JFK assassination theory.

September 11, 2013 @ 10:19 PM

Cambo

The problem with conspiracy theorists is that they always believe the world is being "controlled". They don't know by who, or why but it's a paranoid belief that someone (usually government) wants to control the world. They usually think everything is setup by the government- but have no idea why.

The other thing is they cannot back up their claims with cold, hard scientific fact.

September 12, 2013 @ 7:55 AM

james

The really odd part of the 9/11 theories is the idea that the government could pull it off without a leak.

It would have taken dozens if not hundreds of people to wire the towers for explosives. For no one to talk about it after all this time would not be normal. They'd have top all be sociopaths or dead.

September 12, 2013 @ 8:02 AM

Corey

It's frustrating to debate with conspiracy nuts because they have convinced themselves that the conspiracy must exist, even as they leap from one theory to another. They operate from reverse logic - instead of starting from the simplest hypothesis, the start at the most elaborate they can imagine, and then evolve the theory from there.

Here's a good example. This is a simulation of the plane crash into the Pentagon that thoroughly illustrates exactly how the plane went into the building, but show it to a conspiracy theorist and they refuse to accept, even though they can't prove it wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8&sns=em

September 12, 2013 @ 8:33 AM

Nigel Trousershrapnel

@ Cory,
Insert religion for Conspiracy theories in your statement below:

Conspiracy theories also seem to be more compelling to those with low self-worth, especially with regard to their sense of agency in the world at large. Conspiracy theories appear to be a way of reacting to uncertainty and powerlessness.

Just say'in...

September 12, 2013 @ 1:26 PM

Roshan

My favourite is that 911 was orchestrated by Israelis && the Jews in America so that the blame can be put on Al Qaeda, which meant that the US just had to step into the middle east!

It's usually told to me by Muslim fundamentalists! Not the normal ones, just the crazies!

September 13, 2013 @ 8:24 AM

This world is full of Sheeple

With all do respect I believe you have to be nuts to believe the official story of 9/11.

I may not know who was involved or what actually went down but the official story is a joke....that I do know.

If the government has nothing to hide why don't they show actual footage of a plane hitting the pentagon? They do have footage so what do they have to hide? Why do pilots who actually fly these planes say the maneuvers performed were next to impossible? where is the wreckage? what the hell happened to building 7? How would a 'pancake effect' cause the towers to fall at free fall speed? How do you get molten steel at the base of the towers from jet fuel?

Wake the fuck up people!

September 15, 2013 @ 10:31 AM

Zach

Why did the 9/11 commission itself call the official story bogus? Building 7 is weird as all hell and was also central ops for CIA monitoring? These are facts not theories - it's more offensive to the victims to believe the bs hawks like bush and Cheney said then do real research (why was their testimony not recorded - why did they have to do it together? Not saying every conspiracy is true but you're just as crazy for believing a lie the commission itself admitted to :). Believing the government is not out for your best interest is not crazy - just look at the official documents of operation north woods or the Tuskegee experiments - or the time they gassed the New York subway system with noxious materials to see what happened - yeah these people we should trust unquestionably... Give me a break and read some goddamn history

September 15, 2013 @ 11:02 AM

Henry the Horse

Even something as ridiculous as the video of a mayor engaging in, uh, 'activities,' seems to be shrouded in coverup and possibly crimes while online forums discus the latest twists and turns.
But this huge, world-changing action (with the official story challenged by two thousand engineers and architects) is nothing anybody needs to question.
I don't get the logic.

September 15, 2013 @ 11:32 AM

Zach

As an addendum, consider most of the hijackers were already under surveillance from CIA, We know this because despite the black boxes being destroyed in the fire luckily their passports were indestructible and we were able to quickly identify them.

My take is - CIA knew exactly what was going on, but in a post Church Committee world where the Russians were no longer a threat the CIA knew they were downsizing and becoming less important. At this point in history CIA did not even have a legal license to kill.

The anti terrorist section of CIA at the time was looked at as a joke and somewhere you were put if you screwed up a real mission somewhere. Those boys had a lot to prove. After 9/11 they went from a CIA backwater joke no one wanted to be a part of to the leader in counter-terrorism for the western world, billions were poured in to beef up the group, give raises, and unlock those pesky license to kill powers. (Seems these chaps benefited more than the American people, certainly more than the president or any other branch of US government.

If that's either TLDR or FUCKING CRAZY to you, please read these links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods (official US government plan to blow up jet airliners to go to war with Cuba)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment (official US government plan to deliberately give people deadly diseases and refuse treatment)

http://nypost.com/2010/03/14/long-strange-trip-2/ (discussion of George White spraying LSD inside NYC subway system)

http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/issue43/articles/1957_1961_canada.htm (One for us home town boys. MKULTRA was a disgusting mind control experiment by the CIA. It was dangerous enough for those involved in the USA, but for anything noted as especially lethal they ran those tests in Montreal to escape any blow back from killing US citizens.)

So - they're willing to lie cheat steal and hurt their own people ON RECORD - it took years for the truth to come out on these files, why are you so sure the same couldn't happen here?

September 15, 2013 @ 11:38 AM

This world is full of Sheeple

Sept 11 completely changed my life.

The best way I can describe it is the original Matrix movie. I am like Neo. I have awakened to realize I am living in a dream world, a program. Almost everyone around me is living in this 'program' without even realizing it. They believe what they see and hear (primarily from mainstream media) as fact. They are brainwashed. I have taken the 'red' pill. I am awake. I have only scratched the surface of the 'rabbit hole'. I have been lied to by my government,religion, education system and many other 'systems'. Those who call people who are awake 'conspiracy nuts' do so because that is the way we are programmed to think and act. I am not crazy, I have nothing to prove to anyone. I dont care what you believe. I don't care what anyone thinks about me. I am finally free and see the world for what it truly is. For those who think I am nuts continue to do what you are told to do and think. Continue to take your flue shot, continue to consume your GMO food, continue to drink your floridated water, continue to live your life in ignorance, after all ignorance is bliss and as the saying goes 'you cant handle the truth'

September 15, 2013 @ 11:39 AM

Zach

As an addendum, consider most of the hijackers were already under surveillance from CIA, We know this because despite the black boxes being destroyed in the fire luckily their passports were indestructible and we were able to quickly identify them.

My take is - CIA knew exactly what was going on, but in a post Church Committee world where the Russians were no longer a threat the CIA knew they were downsizing and becoming less important. At this point in history CIA did not even have a legal license to kill.

The anti terrorist section of CIA at the time was looked at as a joke and somewhere you were put if you screwed up a real mission somewhere. Those boys had a lot to prove. After 9/11 they went from a CIA backwater joke no one wanted to be a part of to the leader in counter-terrorism for the western world, billions were poured in to beef up the group, give raises, and unlock those pesky license to kill powers. (Seems these chaps benefited more than the American people, certainly more than the president or any other branch of US government.

If that's either TLDR or FUCKING CRAZY to you, please read these links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods (official US government plan to blow up jet airliners to go to war with Cuba)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment (official US government plan to deliberately give people deadly diseases and refuse treatment)

http://nypost.com/2010/03/14/long-strange-trip-2/ (discussion of George White spraying LSD inside NYC subway system)

http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/issue43/articles/1957_1961_canada.htm (One for us home town boys. MKULTRA was a disgusting mind control experiment by the CIA. It was dangerous enough for those involved in the USA, but for anything noted as especially lethal they ran those tests in Montreal to escape any blow back from killing US citizens.)

So - they're willing to lie cheat steal and hurt their own people ON RECORD - it took years for the truth to come out on these files, why are you so sure the same couldn't happen here?

September 15, 2013 @ 11:47 AM

Zach

Mike sorry I think I input my response twice :O Please check the links and discard the duplicate.

September 15, 2013 @ 11:49 AM

Corey

Maybe someday someone will explain to me what it was about Building 7 that the government needed it utterly destroyed. The best plan they came up with was executing a plot that required high jacking passenger planes, crashing them into the World Trade Centre buildings, then demolishing Building 7 in the midst of that chaos. Seems perfectly reasonable. It would have been interesting to have been a fly on the wall during the meeting where this plan was proposed.
Man 1: "Gentleman, we have no choice but to utterly destroy Building 7!"
Man 2: "I've got it! How about we blow it up, and claim a massive gas leak was the cause?"
Man 3: "No, I've got it. Now try to keep up...first we highjack a few passenger planes..."

September 15, 2013 @ 8:57 PM

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