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Rick C in Oakville

Jian Ghomeshi's lawyer is proving to be quite the litigator, chipping away at the crowns case and the witnesses testimony.
Either way, Jian will be lucky to be able to drive a cab even if he isn't convicted, after this.

February 5, 2016 @ 8:40 AM

Cool Nights

Kevin Donovan at the Star talked to seven different women who told him about their abuse suffered at the hands of Ghomeshi. He believed all seven. Four didn't want to go to the police, and after reading about this trial. I don't blame them.

February 5, 2016 @ 8:44 AM

Cheryl

Carey Price is gone for the season. this is not good at all. It's no good. He's gone for the season. My Habs will turn it around though. They have to because they will still win the cup. My Coyotes lost again last night in overtime. They couldn't hold a lead. My Suns also lost. this is no good at all. It sucks. Also city workers strike in a couple weeks. Okay, to have one in the summer is not good, but at least you don't have to worry about snow or anything like that, but this one is coming in the winter. If we get snow storms, it is going to really be no good because nobody will clear it if there is a strike. All strikes do is hurt the public. That's what we do like we are supposed to have sympathy for these guys and the last one lasted a few months so anyway, we'll get another one and it will last a few months and it's going to get colder and it is going to snow. Anyway, why does Carey Price have to be gone for the season? It sucks.

February 5, 2016 @ 9:26 AM

Lyle Lanley

@Toronto Mike

I just heard the Ivar Hamilton ep of your podcast. Great job.

I love the old clips you play. It always amazes me when the guest is surprised you have it.

February 5, 2016 @ 9:35 AM

Brian

Anything more on Bill Carroll leaving 640? I haven't read/heard anything official.

February 5, 2016 @ 10:26 AM



Argie

I've heard from someone that Bill Carroll will be joining TSN radio. I guess we'll see.

February 5, 2016 @ 11:10 AM

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Re: Bill Carroll

My source (who is always right about Corus things) tells me Bill's leaving today. I suspect we'll get official news on this later today.

I'm also led to believe he's leaving the market.

February 5, 2016 @ 11:26 AM

Mel Preston

It was Babcock's 1,000th game coaching yesterday. I loved his answer when he was asked if he has another 1,000 in him:

https://twitter.com/Sportsnet/status/695471015975997440

Its just not what he says but how he says it. Just as a matter of fact and so much confidence. I am digging this whole Shanaplan!!

Probably the most optimistic I've been about the Leafs' future that I can remember.

February 5, 2016 @ 12:10 PM

mrmojorisinca

Love the confidence..but BABS..pls start loosing again..

February 5, 2016 @ 1:04 PM

steve

My only comments about the "Shana-Plan" are, so far, it's still early in the process, results are akin to form over substance. Welcome back Keon, hello alumni, nice retro jerseys, Marlies doing well, never enough draft picks, cap mgmt, yada, yada, yada, but encouraged to see/hear development & patience remain key principles of the current regime.... so for me, until the club has consecutive seasons of deep runs into the playoffs, it's all meaningless to me.

I get that a "re-build" takes time, so until there's legitimate talent & skill wearing those jerseys, my interest is both limited and in passing because the past is the past and present is so much like the past. When the Leafs are seriously a threat to contend annually for Lord Stanley's mug, hopefully it is then that I can re-engage my passion for the game and support the home team.

February 5, 2016 @ 4:29 PM

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@steve

I'm looking forward to seeing Marner and Nylander with the big club next year. The Shanaplan has me hopeful.

February 5, 2016 @ 4:32 PM

steve

Crossed paths during my 1 semester at Leacock CI., with Bill Carroll, spent many an afternoon in the school's radio studio shooting the breeze about "living-the-dream"; 35+years later, he's still doing it.

February 5, 2016 @ 4:39 PM

Anonymous

MIke

Nylander is the real deal.

Saw Marner again last night vs Niagara Ice Dogs.
This season, I've seen him 6/7 times - reminds me of the petulant, self indulgent peewee AAA stud that dominates so many GTHL teams. We saw too many glimpses of this during the World Juniors, -- bad penalties, giveaways, runs around, or the opposite, no urgency to his game.
When is he going to start maturing?

February 5, 2016 @ 4:50 PM

steve

sorry about prev post not trolling, re: "Anon"

Nylander is the real deal.

Saw Marner again last night vs Niagara Ice Dogs.

February 5, 2016 @ 4:53 PM

The Real Anonymous

I thought about this problem and am sure I have the solution: make rape legal if done on private property. I propose that we make the violent taking of a woman not punishable by law when done off public grounds. - Roosh V

I've been advised to leave the entire DC area immediately.
— Roosh (@rooshv) February 5, 2016

Link

February 5, 2016 @ 5:03 PM

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@steve

I don't want to hear that! I'm banking on Marner being pretty damn great.

February 5, 2016 @ 5:06 PM

Jillian

Just listened to Bill Carroll's send off on 640. Sounds like he won't be on the air anytime soon and definitely not in Toronto. Too bad.. I've listened to him since Q107's Toronto talks.

Is anyone else getting tired of H&F's personal poop stories? TMI. And it's only getting worse with their new squatty potty sponsor.

February 5, 2016 @ 8:13 PM

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@Jillian

Bill Carroll said Corus didn't offer him a fair contract so he's leaving. In the short term, he won't be on any station, but I'm sure he'll pop up somewhere soon.

I actually haven't listened to H+F since early November.

February 5, 2016 @ 8:26 PM

Rick C in Oakville

Anyone else believe that Dennis Wideman should have had a season suspension on his hit on a linesman? 20 games might hurt him financially, but I think the officials are untouchable.

February 5, 2016 @ 8:51 PM

Guy Smiley

Not really happy about the impending doom of Leafs Lunch. I am a TSN supporter as it is leaps and bounds above SN on the TV side, but what the hell are they thinking in killing their one decent radio show?

February 5, 2016 @ 10:16 PM

dale

Musings on a Friday in April (sorry Feb.)

H&F go away as my 1 son says as listened years ago & same old jokes. Give it up BOYS or teenagers (Not Men).
Dennis Wideman - 20 games, appealing & will probably reduced to 15.
Nylander may be the real deal but Marner has to mature overall, a great prospect but overall game is lacking.
Shanaplan is "HOPEFULL" but many years to accomplish. Right direction.
How can the Jays & Donaldson go to arbitration only $500,000 apart. Asking & Offering??
Jose & Edwin free agents after this year. Open your wallet Rogers.
Ghomeshi has a good lawyer questioning. When accusers AFTER subjected violence happened texted or tweeted him again with pictures & comments, how can they be accountable.
Darren Millard & your accomplice, may you rot in Hell.
I predict 1 team from Canada, Vancouver, will make playoffs this year.SORRY CHERYL.


February 5, 2016 @ 10:31 PM

joel

Mike, I noticed your tweet earlier this week about possibly heading to the east coast for a family vacation. If you end up heading east and need any suggestions on things to do or places to go, feel free to reach out to me. I live in fredericton now, but spent several years in moncton and grew up in Nova Scotia.

February 6, 2016 @ 2:19 AM

Cheryl

My Nets won. It's about time. My Coyotes lost though. That's no good. Anyway, Habs will win today. We hope anyway. Superbowl tomorrow, but who cares. My Ravens or Cardinals aren't in it. They will be next year though. We better not get that city strike. As I said, all strikes do is hurt the public and you get one in the winter and there's lots of snow, nobody will clear it. That's what will happen so make city workers and essential service, good idea.

February 6, 2016 @ 8:33 AM

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@joel

Very kind... we're thinking about it, that's for sure. Right now we're just trying to figure out the most economical way to do it. We may rent an RV... but there appears to be no way to do this trip "on the cheap".

Anyone have an RV they can lend me? :)

February 6, 2016 @ 10:11 AM

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February 6, 2016 @ 10:35 AM

Jason from Sudbury

@Toronto Mike: Speaking of vehicles, have you figured out what you're getting next? Also are you still keeping the Mazda around?

February 6, 2016 @ 10:38 AM

Jason from Sudbury

What's this mean? I also got it yesterday while trying to post a message.
504 Gateway Time-out
nginx/1.4.1

February 6, 2016 @ 10:40 AM

Jason from Sudbury

Damn, I should learn to consolidate.

@Toronto Mike: I wouldn't mind so much becoming a patrion, but I thought we had to pay in USD?

@Dale: I'm assuming you meant Dellen Millard?

February 6, 2016 @ 10:45 AM

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@Jason from Sudbury

Yes, there were server issues last night. If some of you had trouble commenting, I apologize.

Update: There still seems to be an issue with the server. I'm working on it now.

February 6, 2016 @ 10:51 AM

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@Jason from Sudbury

And yes, it's USD on Patreon. You pay CAD, but it's converted from the USD you pledge. So $1 USD is actually $1.39 right now.

Pledge your $1.39 CAD here: https://www.patreon.com/torontomike

February 6, 2016 @ 10:53 AM

Jason from Sudbury

@Toronto Mike: Why not just keep the Mazda as a 2nd vehicle? Chances are James will be getting his lisence in a couple of years anyway, would be a decent first car.

February 6, 2016 @ 10:57 AM

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I haven't decided what automobile I'll be buying. I need at least 6 seats... looking at the Mazda 5 but also a bunch of others.

I've been driving the same car for 17 years and I still love driving it. It'll be a shame to junk it, but I need at least one car that can fit the entire family.

February 6, 2016 @ 10:58 AM

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@Jason from Sudbury

Well, my wife has a Mazda 3. It's about 6 years old and not rusting out like my '99 Mazda Protege. So one of them has to go....

February 6, 2016 @ 11:01 AM

Jason from Sudbury

Mazda 5 seems awfully small...what about something like a Ford Explorer?

February 6, 2016 @ 11:01 AM

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@Jason from Sudbury

It's a possibility. I actually test drove one for a week last August: http://www.torontomike.com/ford_explorer_test_drive/

Roomy... but so big!

February 6, 2016 @ 11:03 AM

Blind Dave

A lovely day on the prairies. It's actually going to be above zero for four or five days in a row!


I've been cruising Amazon for a Hawaiian shirt, and no I have not mentioned this to my wife (yet). Seen some good ones but the shipping can be a bit ridiculous. Anyone know any good Canadian retailers that have reasonable rates?

February 6, 2016 @ 11:11 AM

anon

Do these ladies in the Ghomeshi trial have any form of intellectual capability? U go on a date with this guy, he chokes & slaps u silly, but u continue on with the date & even go out for another.

Too easy for Marie Henin to make these ladies look like fools.

February 6, 2016 @ 11:17 AM

Jason from Sudbury

@Toronto Mike: Explorer really isn't that big, at least you'll have plenty of room. Hell you wanna talk about big think about that GMC Yukon you testdrove last summer, now those things are huge!

February 6, 2016 @ 11:27 AM

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@Jason from Sudbury

You're right about that!

February 6, 2016 @ 11:50 AM

Douglas

@Mike - You have a somewhat tough challenge. You rightly prefer more-efficient vehicles, which generally leads one to smaller ones. However, you do legitimately need to be able to accommodate six people, which almost exclusively points you toward larger (and some very definitely) less (fuel)-efficient vehicles.

Ultimately, the most-space and fuel-efficient vehicle is some kind of (mini)van. Many shudder at the thought of minivans (not because of their greater passenger and cargo capacity and flexibility thereof, but because their parents had one); these are the same "soccer moms" (and dads) who drive some kind of crossover/SUV instead. Go to a soccer field on game evening/day. Not many minivans. Count on over half the vehicles there being crossovers/SUVs. Crossovers/SUVs are nothing but tall hatchbacks/station wagons, ultimately compromised by the laws of physics and gravity, as they are bigger, heavier and taller than any equivalent road footprint car or minivan.* My youngest son, now 17, still has motion sickness issues with my ex's SUV (Lexus RX) and her new husband's SUV (Honda Pilot). He has no issues with my Subaru Legacy or my older son's Mazda3 (no matter how, erm, "sportily" they may be driven at times).

* A lot of people will say "but (crossovers/SUVs) have gotten better at ride/drive/fuel efficiency!" True, but the same kind of engineering has been done on cars and minivans, continuing their advantages in these areas. No engineer can change the laws of gravity or physics.

If you do like the Mazda5, grab one reasonably soon. With the US discontinuing importing it in favour of more crossover production (CX-3, CX-5, the finally new CX-7), there is reportedly insufficient volume for Mazda to justify a model for Canada. The last time the 5 was thoroughly updated was for the 2010 model, so it's getting pretty long in the tooth. There are several 5s in my neighbourhood. Everyone who has one loves theirs.

February 6, 2016 @ 5:17 PM

Jason from Sudbury

I sometimes have to laugh at what people consider big vehicles. For example I had someone tell me that the Dodge Caravan was a big van, but really it isn't its a minivan. You want a big van? Remember the Ford, Chevy and Dodge full size vans from the 70's and 80's? Now those were big! I know Ford still makes a full size cargo van, not sure if they make the 15 passenger vans anymore but I doubt it. Even cars, I have a 2004 Intrepid which is apparently considered a full size car, which I think is funny.

February 6, 2016 @ 5:41 PM

Rick C in Oakville

Don't over look a mini van. Douglas made some great points. I loved the 2004 Chrysler mini van I had for a company vehicle. Seated 7, wasn't the stow and go seats but I could pull the seats out and reconfigure it for skis, luggage etc. It fit my families needs at the time, plus all my kids friends could pile in when we went skiing or vacations.
On renting an RV, very costly to rent and keep fueled up. You could take a minivan, and stay in hotels or rent a cottage for less. The Toronto Star Wheels section had an article on the costs of renting an RV for a week and it was pretty staggering.

February 6, 2016 @ 8:13 PM

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@Douglas

Great feedback... you nailed it. I want a small, fuel-efficient vehicle but I need 3 rows of seats.

I'm not anti-minivan.... that's a contender, for sure.

February 6, 2016 @ 8:21 PM

Rick C in Oakville

http://www.wheels.ca/news/rv-or-motel/

Here's the wheels article

February 6, 2016 @ 8:27 PM

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@Rick C in Oakville

Thanks for digging that up. Pricey indeed!

February 6, 2016 @ 8:28 PM

question

You're a father. Jian Ghomeshi smashes your daughter's head against the wall and gives her three short ones to the forehead.
She tells you.

What do you do?
What would Frank Zappa do?

February 6, 2016 @ 9:35 PM

another vote for the Mazda5

I drove MPVs for years. Way beyond the "shuffle kids around" stage but hatchbacks are so convenient. So back in 2013 when my intention was to buy an SUV, i ended up with a Mazda5. Don't regret it at all.

February 6, 2016 @ 11:59 PM

Cheryl

Habs won last night. It's about time. Now what will happen is my Habs will win the rest of the games until the end of the season and they will make the playoffs and win the cup. That will be great. My Nets and Suns both lost though again. I don't care about the Superbowl.

February 7, 2016 @ 6:11 AM

Yawnie

I don't care about the Nets or Suns or Ravens or Coyotes BUT most of all anyway I DON"T CARE ABOUT THE habs.

February 7, 2016 @ 6:17 AM

Broni

@ Mike re: SUV

We just got a Hyundai Santa Fe XL which is the base 7-seater version with the 3rd row. The way the 3rd row folds down when you don't need it is really great (& simple), and the 3rd row splits in half so if you have 6 people in it you can still maximize cargo room. It's the second time I've had a Santa Fe and I really like driving them...and they seem to be among the more financially-reasonable to purchase.

February 7, 2016 @ 12:06 PM

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We've just decided to sell my wife's 2010 Mazda 3 (which is in excellent condition) and keep my old Protege as the 2nd car. So in the next couple of months I'll be buying a used minivan or Mazda 5 or something like that.

Let the fun begin!

February 7, 2016 @ 12:34 PM

Jason from Sudbury

Hmmm. Didn't see that one coming. Thought you guys would've kept the 2010 Mazda and junk the 99

Yes the Santa Fe is really nice. Have to admit Hyundai has come a long, long way over the years.

February 7, 2016 @ 2:02 PM

Cheryl

My Habs won again yesterday 2 to 1 in Overtime. Awesome. They're going to keep winning. I told you they will do that. Habs are winning the cup. Snow on the way. At least there will be city workers to plough it. If snow comes during the strike on the 19th, then nobody will plough it and things will be a mess. As I said, strikes do nothing but hurt the public. Whoever thought of having them in the winter. It's bad enough having them in the summer.

February 8, 2016 @ 9:16 AM

chris

@Cheryl

How can the Habs win the cup if they can't/ won't make the playoffs. 4 or so wins in last 30 games??????????? They need John Scott to be brought up from the minors. 1st star from last week in NHL. Forget Carrie, he's done for the year.

February 8, 2016 @ 6:39 PM

fin

Permafrost in Siberia is 80 feet thick.

What is happening to it?

February 8, 2016 @ 9:06 PM

fin

Permafrost is now melting 5 times faster than expected in all global warming
calculations.

Methane is being released 5 times faster than any calculations/ or
computations estimated.

its goodbye time.

February 8, 2016 @ 9:20 PM

Jason from Sudbury

I'm a Habs fan, starting to know how Leaf fans feel though. I do still think they'll make the playoffs, but don't see them getting far. Bergevin has to make some moves though. I also think they should give John Scott a shot and see what happens. As for Carey Price, I say shut him down for thr rest of the year and get him the surgery he needs.

February 8, 2016 @ 10:49 PM

Cheryl

The Habs will win the cup. I have faith. 25th cup here we come. My Nets won last night, but my Suns lost.

February 9, 2016 @ 10:07 AM

Anonymous

@Dale "Ghomeshi has a good lawyer questioning. When accusers AFTER subjected violence happened texted or tweeted him again with pictures & comments, how can they be accountable." Abuse is very complicated, look how many people stay with abusers for years, it doesn't mean the abuse did not happen.

http://www.chatelaine.com/news/why-would-an-assault-survivor-reach-out-to-her-abuser/

Chatelaine asked Keetha Mercer, manager of violence prevention at the Canadian Women’s Foundation to explain:

“There are many reasons why a survivor would contact her abuser. These may include wanting to get closure or addressing what happened. Many survivors struggle to break off contact with their abuser because the nature of abuse includes undermining their self-esteem and confidence. They may feel controlled by their abuser, which is a hard feeling to shake even after they have left. In some instances, those in an abusive relationship go through periods of calm, nurturing and love between the incidents of violence. An abuser may swear that ‘it will never happen again.’

It is important to challenge the narrative of what it means to be a survivor. There is no universal reaction to abuse and no ‘right’ way to heal. If a survivor decides that contacting her abuser is something she wants to do, then it is important to support her in that. Abuse is about power and control, and a survivor might want to confront their abuser to regain power and control over their life.

The main point is that a woman experiencing abuse can confront it and heal in different ways.”

February 9, 2016 @ 2:33 PM

Tim Legere

From Ghomeshi Case - Toronto Sun Feb 5, 2016 by Michelle Mandel:

Notes:

Henein - Ghomeshi's Lawyer
Decoutere - Complainant

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THE DRAMATIC EXCHANGE BETWEEN HENEIN AND DECOUTERE

It was a duel of high drama, with Lucy DeCoutere in the crosshairs.

“You told the police you didn’t really have any dealings with him afterwards, except professionally, that you didn’t engage with him, that you weren’t friends with him, that there were no romantic feelings afterwards. Those were your words,” says defence lawyer Marie Henein.

“There were no romantic feelings afterward, I guarantee you that,” DeCoutere agrees.

“Do you? Under oath, you’re going to guarantee me that?”

“Oh god yes,” she replies.

The trap was set.

Henein went on to show her a series of friendly, sometimes flirtatious, sometimes bawdy e-mails DeCoutere sent Ghomeshi asking to meet.

Henein reminds her that she’s told police and the media that the assault was so upsetting she can still feel his hands on her throat.

“To this day,” she agrees.

And you said there was never anything romantic between you? she asks again. DeCoutere agrees.

The groundwork is set. “I’m going to show you an e-mail you sent to him 13 days after you say this happened,” Henein says.

“I think you are magic and would love to see you,” it begins and goes on to ask Ghomeshi to hang out with her again.

“Are you prepared to admit that you have been lying about your feelings, that you have been lying about the incident? Are you prepared to admit that now?” Henein demands.

“Absolutely not,” DeCoutere replies.

Her feelings about him were conflicted but that doesn’t change what happened, she insists.

The lawyer pulls up another e-mail dated July 5, 2003. “The very next day, the day after you say he chokes you, read into the record the e-mail.”

And there it is. The first bombshell.

“You kicked my ass last night and that makes me want to f--- your brains out. Tonight,” DeCoutere wrote Ghomeshi.

There are audible groans in the gallery of the courtroom.

She struggles to explain that this forgotten e-mail doesn’t change the fact that Ghomeshi choked and slapped her without her consent.

“It was no sexual assault,” charges Henein. “The next night you wanted to f--- his brains out.”

And then comes the second explosive reveal.

“You wrote him a love letter ... is this your handwriting, Miss DeCoutere?” the lawyer asks. “Let’s go through it line by line.”

It’s dated July 9, 2003, five days after the alleged assault. “I loved spending time with you this weekend,” DeCoutere wrote. “I am sad we didn’t spend the night together.”

With her final dramatic flourish, Henein asks the witness to read the last line aloud, her sign off to the man she says choked her only days before. It is almost impossible to believe: “I love your hands,” she wrote.

More gasps from the court.

“It never happened,” Henein says of the alleged assault.

“Oh, it happened,” DeCoutere fires back.

February 10, 2016 @ 8:12 AM

Cheryl

Habs won again last night. I told you that once they start winning, they will never lose until they win the cup. Ben Scrivens is really turning out to be a good goalie so that's great. Well, my Habs play my Coyotes on Monday. They may lose that one, but it will go to overtime. They will win the cup. Trust me. I don't know if my trainer won or not. He'll tell me tomorrow. I hope he did.

February 10, 2016 @ 10:46 AM

fourteen

I have been reviewing previous TO post comments. Go Elvis go!

February 10, 2016 @ 11:56 AM

fourteen

Oops. "TM", not "TO".

February 10, 2016 @ 11:58 AM

Tim Legere

A contrast in coverage of the Ghomeshi Case by CBC's Mark Gollam (i.e. the Sun was very different):

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/jian-ghomeshi-sexual-assault-trial-1.3441751

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The first woman to testify told court that Ghomeshi had pulled her hair and punched her in the head at his home after a dinner date. DeCoutere said the former Q host had choked and slapped her at his home. The third woman said Ghomeshi had squeezed her neck and covered her mouth while they were kissing on a park bench.

But it was later revealed in court that each woman had had contact with Ghomeshi following the alleged assaults and that details of this contact had not been provided to police or the Crown in their initial statements.

February 10, 2016 @ 12:33 PM

Anonymous

Angela Mulholland from CTV weighs in on Ghomeshi Case:

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/if-accusers-kept-in-touch-with-ghomeshi-does-it-matter-1.2772178

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Toronto criminal lawyer and CTV legal analyst Boris Bytensky agrees there is no one way a sexual assault victim "should" behave, or has to behave in order to be believed.

But he doesn't believe that is what Ghomeshi's defence team is saying either. Instead, he says they are more concerned with the reliability of the women's testimony and the fact that some of them failed to mention flirtatious notes and emails they sent later -- even after they testified that they had ended all correspondence .

"The issue isn't so much that these women had further sex contact with Ghomeshi; the real significance is that they initially denied doing so," he said.

"It's not the further contact itself that's the problem, it's the fact that they lied about whether it occurred and have given, at best inconsistent versions and difficult-to-accept explanations for their inconsistencies."

Bytensky said the defence is focused on the women's behaviour for the sole reason that they are trying to raise doubts about their testimony.

"It's not to expose them as somehow 'loose' women who can't be believed. It's nothing like that at all. It would be very improper for all sorts of reasons to suggest that," Bytensky said.

"It's that they are women who have simply not been able to tell the truth. They have been either manipulative or deceitful with either the court or police… That's the defence's position."

Bytensky expects that all of this will be made more clear when the defence presents its closing arguments. He expects they will argue that the prosecution has failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the alleged assaults happened at all.

"I don't think they're going to say 'Don't believe the complainants because look at the way they acted later.' It's going to be a lot more of: ''Don't believe the complainants because they told many different stories about the same alleged event and they specifically denied things that they later went back and said, 'Ok, well that did happen'."

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So the question is .. Have the Complainants been either manipulative or deceitful with either the court or police? The Judge will have to decide.

February 10, 2016 @ 12:44 PM

crisis? what crisis?

There’s a water crisis in Flint, Michigan.

Children are being rushed to the hospital with irreversible brain damage. The federal government has declared a state of emergency, and dangerous water contamination is causing residents to go blind, develop skin lesions, and lose hair and even their memory -- just from bathing in their own homes.

The entire community is living in fear -- all because Governor Rick Snyder wanted to save money, and switched the city's water supply from one of the largest and cleanest water supplies in the world to the highly corrosive Flint River.

BUT REMEMBER: WORRY ABOUT ZIKA

February 10, 2016 @ 12:48 PM

fourteen

Response to Flint, this is an example of why government should not be run on a business model.

February 10, 2016 @ 1:06 PM

k

The Edge has dropped their "Modern Music" branding, in station ID's all you hear now is "102.1 The Edge Toronto," it's no longer on the logo either. I'm guessing it's because some vintage and more 90's tracks are being played along with the currents.

February 10, 2016 @ 1:24 PM

Neil Clarke Warren

According to ESPN...predicting the next 25 Superbowl winners.Guess who wins the Superbowl in 2032?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14747408/super-bowl-50-history-why-not-predict-next-25-super-bowl-winners

February 10, 2016 @ 1:30 PM

TripleZer0

@K

"Modern Music" was branding CFNY used back in the mid 80's. I believe it came to an end around early 87 when "Modern Rock" was introduced. I'm only speculating but I believe the original incarnation of "modern music" was to identify the music not so much as new but to distance itself from "classic" and mainstream rock at the time.

February 10, 2016 @ 8:56 PM

Rick C in Oakville

The Edge needs to bring back Spirit of Radio Sundays. Was great listening to Scot playing music I had forgotten over 25- 30+ years ago.

February 10, 2016 @ 9:30 PM

Cheryl

Well, my Nets and Suns both lost last night and my Coyotes lost. This really sucks. Anyway, so no taxi protest this weekend. It was a stupid idea anyway. Well, people should use Uber if they want to use Uber, but the thing is I can't use them because I don't have a smart phone and they don't have an office you can call to order a ride. Also nobody would be able to tell if it is a cab or not because they are driving their own private cars, and they can rate you as well which is not a good thing really. Anyway, all strikes do is hurt the public anyway and city strike next Friday is going to be pretty ugly if we get tons of snow and the ploughs are on strike. That shouldn't be allowed. Oh well, what can you do. I'm hoping the Ravens or the Cardinals win the Superbowl next year.

February 11, 2016 @ 9:55 AM

Tim Legere

Part of Ghomeshi's lawyer's closing argument:

"These witnesses withheld info from many including the court.

They disclosed truth only when there was concern that they would be contradicted by objective evidence.

Only when concerned about being contradicted by objective information did they tell the truth.

That is deeply troubling. If the truth were not available independently, we would not have it".

February 11, 2016 @ 2:08 PM

Tim Legere

CBC on Ghomeshi Trial.

Judge will provide a decision om March 24, 2016.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/jian-ghomeshi-sexual-assault-trial-1.3443556

February 11, 2016 @ 3:08 PM

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