Creationism Propaganda for Children Caught on Camera

XXXThis video is making the rounds. It's creationism propaganda for children captured on camera.

The whole notion of the bible being treated as "the history book of the universe" is pretty disgusting. It reminds me of the Creation Museum we all laughed at last summer and For the Bible Tells Me So, a great documentary about how religious leaders use the bible to promote hate.

Way back in 2004, I read a statistic that continues to blow my mind. 37% of Americans wanted the teaching of 'evolutionism' replaced outright by this silliness they call creationism.

It baffles me that in 2010 this kind of nonsense continues. I just feel for these poor kids who have been brain washed at such a innocent and malleable age. There oughta be a law...


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Icarus

Religion and McDonalds have the same approach. Get 'em while they're young. If you are a 5 year old impressionable youngster then anything a 'grown-up' tells you repeatedly in a serious and solemn manner with an air of earnestness then the possiblity of doubt is never entertained.

May 1, 2010 @ 5:51 PM

Icarus

Aargh! Grammar failure.

May 1, 2010 @ 6:40 PM

Buffalo Boy Mike

You know were my thoughts are on this issue mike, couldnt agree more, I don't care if my daughter participates in organized religion when she isyoun, my wife wants her to, im not going to balk at that but she will know the difference between fact and fiction so to speak.

May 1, 2010 @ 6:51 PM

Ryan

It's like being mentally challenged......... by choice instead of circumstance.

May 1, 2010 @ 8:14 PM

Roshan

It's the same everywhere. Every mother or grandmother who brings a toddler to their puja room and makes the child fold it's hands in front of Krishna's idol and makes them repeat 'Krishna, bless me and keep me safe' even before the child can say full sentences, is feeding the bullshit!

May 1, 2010 @ 11:34 PM

Sammi

Ok...I will take the other side on this. What is so different in creationism vs any other theory? They are all theories and each one is as valid as the other. How do any of you know what actually happened? Any thoughts or opinions you have are limited to the finite level of your intelligence.

No-one can say for sure what the truth is.

May 2, 2010 @ 7:35 AM

Buffalo Boy Mike

hmm lets see there Sammi, the Theory of Evolution has these things called... ready for this....Fossils... and they provide some pretty solid proof of said theory....Christians have one piece of evidence for creationism, it was a book written over 2000 years ago with holes punched all through it for its factual basis.

May 2, 2010 @ 8:17 AM

Argie

Its all theories - no one knows for sure. Even the Catholic Church's claim of intelligent design is a theory.

I suppose Mike's post is just another way to attack the one true faith - Christianity. That's OK, go on with your life of blackberry's, Ipods, The Wire, and gay pride week and see where it leads you.

May 2, 2010 @ 8:40 AM

Buffalo Boy Mike

Argie, seriously? what makes Christianity any better if you are going to use it to judge other people? Jesus didn't judge, he didnt care if you were gay,black, white, hispanic, atheist or Islamic he loved no matter what, what you just posted judges people dude, either follow your beliefs or can your comment altogether.

May 2, 2010 @ 8:55 AM

Icarus

''What is so different in creationism vs any other theory?''

Do you really have to ask?

As Ned Flanders said. I did everything the bible told me to do, even all the stuff that contradicts the other stuff.

Also: The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

May 2, 2010 @ 9:00 AM


CQ

For me religion is just man's interpretation. I doubt if there were two kangaroos collected on the ark, for instance. And though unbelieving in Christianity's virgin birth idea, I can at least consider Jesus being great enough to have been adopted. I marvel at those Larry King Live panel shows on the subject that never include anyone who's a First Nations' person from throughout the Americas.
And if I were to "choose a people" it would have been the ancient Hawaiians - think about it: they said forget the long arduous walk over the Bering Strait and instead dugout a few tree logs and, carrying along their women folk, paddled 'blind' across the world's largest ocean filled with sharks and whales. At least the other South Pacific founders could island hop.

That all said, faith in an un-scientific divinity is something I can believe in and to a modest-only extent, most forms of religion might be useful as a beginning point towards any function of personal faith. (so much for a simple Sunday Morning coffee time).

May 2, 2010 @ 9:47 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

Thanks Argie, now I have to change my header image.

"Go on with your life of blackberry's, Ipods, The Wire, and gay pride week and see where it leads you."

That, my friend, could be the basis for a new religion.

May 2, 2010 @ 9:56 AM

Buffalo Boy Mike

Mike I think it already is the basis for the guy in the video

May 2, 2010 @ 10:12 AM

Ryan G

wow.

that's really all i can say.

except that i sensed a certain desperation in the guys in that video. as if they realize they're losing their grip, and they've given up having real intelligent debate (since they'd lose said debate). ironically, they seem like predators in the animal kingdom, where they'll go after the young, sick or elderly since they're easiest to capture.

May 2, 2010 @ 10:20 AM

Icarus

Hadn't thought about that, Ryan G.
Ironic on many levels, these people are.

Having faith in anything to such an extent that any challenge to it is seen as dangerous, is, (ironically) dangerous. It's the thin end of the wedge of religious fundamentalism.

May 2, 2010 @ 2:29 PM

Il Duce

@Toronto Mike

It seems that you point out all the negative parts of religion but never the good. Believe it or not there is a lot of good that religion does for the community and its faithful.

If you're a non-believer than that is you're right. But don't chastise those that wish to believe and live their lives with some form of faith.

Your argument is getting old and stale, move on.

May 2, 2010 @ 4:46 PM

Argie

Mike from Buffalo,

You seem to know a lot of what Jesus had to say and think. Let me clarify a few things for you.

Yes Jesus was all about 'love your neighbour' and don't cast a stone if you haven't sinned. But time and time again within the Gospels, his message is this: the only way to eternal life/salvation is through him. God can save you but first you must confess your sins, ask for God's forgiveness and repent. Sins such as murder, stealing, cheating, lying happen to go along sex out of marriage, not believing in God and the like.

In terms of race, I'm not sure why all the talk of blacks, hispanics, etc. Oh and muslims didn't exist in Jesus' time.

May 2, 2010 @ 8:01 PM

Argie

Mike from Buffalo,

You seem to know a lot of what Jesus had to say and think. Let me clarify a few things for you.

Yes Jesus was all about 'love your neighbour' and don't cast a stone if you haven't sinned. But time and time again within the Gospels, his message is this: the only way to eternal life/salvation is through him. God can save you but first you must confess your sins, ask for God's forgiveness and repent. Sins such as murder, stealing, cheating, lying happen to go along sex out of marriage, not believing in God and the like.

In terms of race, I'm not sure why all the talk of blacks, hispanics, etc. Oh and muslims didn't exist in Jesus' time.

May 2, 2010 @ 8:02 PM

Ryan

@Il Duce

"Old and Stale?"

Funny, i was going to use the same phrase regarding religion. Especially today!! It always has been and always will be a tool to control the masses and brainwash based on OLD/STALE tales and notions.

May 2, 2010 @ 8:06 PM

Icarus

''Believe it or not there is a lot of good that religion does for the community and its faithful.''

None of the good things that religion is said to have done can solely be attributed to religion, but instead to the acts of good people. In fact, i'd go further and say I think it is insulting to people (and humanity in general) to say that without religion they would be capable of good and great acts. Aren't Christians, Moslems, Jews, Hindus, Buddists etc... all capable of great acts? Great humanitarian acts are carried out be people of diversely different religious philosophies. What they share is their humanity and the possibility that that provides. Religion is secondary, and can be as easily be attributed to acts of great evil as good, e.g Spanish Inquisition, Crusades, Islamic Fundamentalism, Colonialism in the Middle East..

May 2, 2010 @ 8:14 PM

Buffalo Boy Mike

Argie:
"Sins such as murder, stealing, cheating, lying happen to go along sex out of marriage, not believing in God and the like."
First of all Argie, almost ever war man has fought is over religion, Religion is no good.
Honestly how do you know you arent going to hell? How to you know there is life after death? Have you died? Have oit becaue a book tells you and some dude or woman standing up in front of church wearing robes or a dress tells you to.
Guess what, I don't need religion to tell me Not to do all those things you call sins, most of them are things we have called laws, the others are common friggin sense. Religion is a crutch for the week minded, you hide behind it when you have done something wrong but you hold it out in front of you when you have done something right....

May 2, 2010 @ 10:20 PM

Buffalo Boy Mike

And ARgie, not believing in God is only a sin if you believe in God, if you don't believe in god then you have no god to answer to, I have no religion to tell me what to believe in, I believe in the religion of being a good person and being myself and not having to answer to some organized spiritual consultant in the sky that I can't see, If I wanted to believe in something invisible and all knowing again Id believe in Santa Claus.

May 2, 2010 @ 10:23 PM

Patrick O'Donnell

The possible finding of Noah's Ark is in the news again. Just how big would that thing have been if it held two of every land animal on it? Now consider the storage space for the food they would need on hand to feed them all for 40 days and 40 nights. Noah didn't bring on enough hands to clean up the shit that would have been produced by them all. Of course you won't find dinosaur in the bible - nobody was around when they were here and the bible was written well before the first fossils where found that they knew were "Dinosaurs". If Sarah Palin becomes president down here, you Canadians are going to see an influx of immigrants from your southern border. Can my reciting all the Rush albums in order be good enough to get me in?

May 3, 2010 @ 1:10 AM

Patrick O'Donnell

The possible finding of Noah's Ark is in the news again. Just how big would that thing have been if it held two of every land animal on it? Now consider the storage space for the food they would need on hand to feed them all for 40 days and 40 nights. Noah didn't bring on enough hands to clean up the shit that would have been produced by them all. Of course you won't find dinosaur in the bible - nobody was around when they were here and the bible was written well before the first fossils where found that they knew were "Dinosaurs". If Sarah Palin becomes president down here, you Canadians are going to see an influx of immigrants from your southern border. Can my reciting all the Rush albums in order be good enough to get me in?

May 3, 2010 @ 1:11 AM

Ajax Mike

Well maybe there just wasn't as many different kinds of animals back then. Oh wait... that would mean Evolution is real...

May 3, 2010 @ 3:33 AM

Jack

Fossils? They exist but were created as a result of a giant flood. Sound familiar? The carbon dating used to identify that these fossils come from millions of years ago is flawed as are the data that they use to support it. You'll find circular references between the hypothesis and the proof for the hypothesis...Sounds like the whole global warming debate. Don't worry about the proof - We'll just say it is true, create some proof to prove our case and nobody will ask questions about it. Creationism has at least the same amount of credibility if not more. Believe it, don't believe it, it is your choice (it is called free will - given by God). I'm standing on the side of believing it and feel quite comfortable with that decision. If I'm wrong, no problem, if you're wrong...I wouldn't want to be in your shoes.

May 3, 2010 @ 12:47 PM

Fredericton Steve

That was a pretty sad video.

May 3, 2010 @ 1:14 PM

Jesus

Man, can't any of you guys cut me some slack. Today's such a nice day I'm going out on my patio and have a beer.

May 3, 2010 @ 4:24 PM

Ajax Mike

"If I'm wrong, no problem, if you're wrong...I wouldn't want to be in your shoes."

Let's assume for a moment that you're right. If your God is going to punish me for exercising the free will and critical thinking that He gave me, while otherwise leading a good life... well then He doesn't deserve my worship to begin with.

May 3, 2010 @ 4:54 PM

Tony

heya all, my name is Tony, a Creationist, if you want to debate me, I stand ready, me vs. all evolutionists. but I wonder if you are the kind that dont believe no matter what the evidence.

October 23, 2010 @ 4:44 AM

Tony

Four Great Questions
1. Who am I (and what am I worth?)
2. Where did I come from?
3. Why am I here?
4. Where am I going when I die?

“Amazing! A ‘Big Bang’ made this world from nothing!”Humanist world-view based on evolution: Man is god and answers to no one.

“Incredible design! There must be a smart designer.”Creationist world-view: God is God and judges all men.

“If you tell a lie long enough, loud enough and often enough, the people will believe it.”-Adolph Hitler
The Third Reich at War p. 38

“People are more likely to believe a big liethan a small one.”-Adolph Hitler


Webster’s Dictionary
Science n. [


The word “Evolution” has many meanings, only one of which is scientific.
1. Cosmic Evolution: the origin of time, space and matter, i.e. Big Bang.
2. Chemical Evolution- the origin of higher elements from hydrogen.
3. Stellar and Planetary evolution. Origin of stars and planets. No one has ever seen a star form.
4. Organic Evolution. Origin of Life.
5. Macro-Evolution. Changing from one kind into another.
6. Micro-Evolution. Variations within kinds. Only this one has been observed.
The first five are RELIGIOUS but the 6th is observable and provable and can be study.

November 2, 2010 @ 7:52 PM

Tony

First Law of Thermodynamics:
“Matter (and/or energy) cannot be created or destroyed”

“Humanists regard the universe as self existing and not created.”
Humanist Manifesto 1 (1933) Tenent #1

Uni=single
verse=spoken sentence

And God said, “Let there be light …”
Genesis 1:3


1. Where did the matter come from?
2. Where did the laws come from? Gravity, centrifugal force, inertia, etc. (and why aren’t the laws still evolving?)
3. Where did the energy come from?

November 2, 2010 @ 7:54 PM

Tony

Conservation of Angular Momentum

“This (Angular Momentum) would have caused the sun to spin very rapidly. Actually, our sun spins very slowly, while the planets move very rapidly around the sun. In fact, although the sun has over 99% of the mass of the solar system, it has only 2% of the angular momentum. This pattern is directly opposite to the pattern predicted for the nebular hypothesis.”
Dr. H. Reeves The Origin of the Solar System, in The Origin of the Solar System, Dermott, S.F. Ed. John Wiley & Sons, New York p. 9, 1978.

“The ultimate origin of the solar system’s angular momentum remains obscure.” Well-known solar-system Evolutionist scientist, Dr. Stuart Ross Taylor, Solar System Evolution: A New Perspective, Cambridge University Press, p. 53, 1992.

“One of the detailed problems is then to explain how the Sun itself acquires nearly 99.9% of the mass of the solar system but only 2% of its angular momentum.”
Frank D. Stacey, “Physics of the Earth”, 1969, p. 4

Venus, Uranus and possibly Pluto rotate backwards from the other 6 planets.
8 of the 91 moons rotate backwards.
Jupiter, Saturn and Neptune have moons orbiting in both directions. Astronomical Almanac for the year 1989 (Wash. DC U.S. Government Printing Office, 1989) p. E88

November 2, 2010 @ 7:55 PM

Tony

CHEMISTRY “MYSTERIES”

98% OF THE SUN IS HYDROGEN OR HELIUM
LESS THAN 1% OF MERCURY, VENUS, EARTH, AND MARS IS HYDROGEN OR HELIUM
Why are the nine planets so different from each other and from the sun?
Some galaxies spin backwards.

If the big bang theory were true the matter would be evenly distributed.
Instead it is “lumpy.” There are clusters of stars then great “voids.”
The “big bang” is a “big dud.”

November 2, 2010 @ 7:56 PM

Tony

THE SECOND LAW OF THERMALDYNAMICS

“Another way of stating the second law is, ‘The universe is constantly getting more disorderly.’ Viewed that way we can see the second law all about us. We have to work hard to straighten out a room, but left to itself it becomes a mess again very quickly and very easily. Even if we never enter it, it becomes dusty and musty. How difficult to maintain houses, and machinery, and our own bodies in perfect working order; how easy to let them deteriorate. In fact, all we have to do is nothing, and everything deteriorates, collapses, breaks down, wears out, all by itself-and that is what the second law is all about.
Issac Asimov, “In the Game of Energy and Thermodynamics You Can’t Even Break Even,” Smithsonian Institution Journal, June 1970 p. 6


Evolutionists assume that adding energy (open system) will overcome the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

1.The universe is a closed system.
2. Adding energy is destructive without a complex mechanism to harness the energy.

Only a very complex molecule called chlorophyll can harness the sun’s energy.
One leaf cell is more complex than a city.

Evolution theory violates the second law and is wrong.

November 2, 2010 @ 7:57 PM

Nick

I happen to be helping my son with a school project and surprisingly came upon this article and coincidentilly your website. I say surprised because I never knew the Roman Catholics position on evolution vs creationism (and I was raised catholic) and it is right out of their cathecism:

"Catholics should weigh the evidence for the universe’s age by examining biblical and scientific evidence. "Though faith is above reason, there can never be any real discrepancy between faith and reason. Since the same God who reveals mysteries and infuses faith has bestowed the light of reason on the human mind, God cannot deny himself, nor can truth ever contradict truth" (Catechism of the Catholic Church 159)"

It is good reading, if you are interested in this topic or helping a high schooler with an essay. Here is the link http://www.catholic.com/library/Adam_Eve_and_Evolution.asp

and by the way i am just lending my 2 cents in to the discussion. I don't have an opinion either way but I am sure I will one day.

Mike, great website, I will have to visti more often GO LEAFS GO!

December 15, 2010 @ 8:46 AM

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