Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 393: Hockey Fight in Canada

Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 393In this 393rd episode, Mike chats with the Globe and Mail's David Shoalts about his new book Hockey Fight in Canada. This episode is exactly 1:56:56.

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David's smile holding that lasagna has not been seen since Ralphie got that magical official Red Ryder, carbine action, two-hundred shot range model air rifle for Christmas all those years ago...

November 2, 2018 @ 1:11 PM


Thanks for asking my questions Mike & David thanks for your response,
A great podcast overall.

November 2, 2018 @ 4:01 PM

Mark Hebscher

That interview with Red York (David Shoalts) was fantastic. I love those old newspaper guys from the 60s and 70s.

November 2, 2018 @ 4:43 PM


Gotta love those current topical references!! What are the odds Mr. Shoalts has an over-sized toaster
oven in his vehicle and heated that bad boy up en route to his next location?!?

Still feel that not enough rapt attention was paid to those two fine comics' routines on that late
summer evening! Was just as entertaining the second time in playback mode. See, I live vicariously
through successful later-in-life comics like David S. and Gare Joyce!!

November 2, 2018 @ 4:59 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

If anyone wants to hear David Shoalts (and Gare Joyce) standup, that episode is here:

November 2, 2018 @ 5:01 PM

Rick C in Oakville

Beatts, love the reference!
Have to give Shoalts props for his comedy routine, I can barely carry a joke to the punch line.

November 2, 2018 @ 6:00 PM

the brother

Mike congrats on your new partnership with Palma Pasta!

November 2, 2018 @ 6:21 PM

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I'm also proud to be sponsored by Fast Time Watch & Jewellery Repair.

I'll be writing more about Palma Pasta and Fast Time Watch & Jewellery Repair this weekend.

November 2, 2018 @ 7:00 PM

Rick C in Oakville

Palma Pasta is awesome, lucky to have one nearby.

November 2, 2018 @ 9:39 PM

Sid_V from NY via London

That is one helluva big lasagna. Maybe @RaptorsDevotee can supple a small, branded, fork so the guest can chow down on lasagna during the long drive home from Mimico.

November 3, 2018 @ 7:48 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

The Palma Pasta lasagna is frozen, and you need to let it thaw in the fridge for 24 hours before baking it in the oven. It's really a fantastic meal.

November 3, 2018 @ 8:55 AM

Sid_V from NY via London

I am not going to let facts get in the way of the hilarious mental image of Toronto celebrities negotiating traffic on the Gardiner Expressway while trying to simultaneously eat a huge, gooey lasagna!

November 3, 2018 @ 9:15 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

So long as he doesn't crack open his six pack on the road, I'm down!

November 3, 2018 @ 9:23 AM


Fantastic interview, and I probably haven't watched an entire hockey game since Knowlton Nash
retired from the CBC in the late 1980s!! (And yes, I realize that he was a newsman and not a sports
broadcaster, so thanks!!) Also, I love Mr. Shoalts' delivery and sly infusions of sarcasm throughout,
so much so that I just picked up this latest book from TPL and will certainly read it post haste.

It's your podcast and you are entirely within your right to be the moderator of your forthcoming diversity panel. Screw the dissenters and haters, as at least you are trying to open up a constructive
conversation on the subject, unlike many other corners of the mainstream media.

November 3, 2018 @ 11:08 AM


In lieu of reruns due to some kind of mid-term U.S. election extravaganza last night, I sat myself down and read Mr. Shoalts' latest book all at once. Despite having absolutely no emotional or athletic investments of any kind around the subject matter, I found it to be an absolutely enthralling experience. Moreover, I really enjoyed the crisp writing and underlying humour evident throughout. At times it even felt like a comedy routine of some sorts was being delivered, especially the passages related to the Strombo misfire. One other takeaway: Dudes named Gord are also quite prevalent, not only in the arts, but also on the production side of hockey broadcasts, as well as in the thrilling world of marketing: (Gords Cutler and Hendren!!).

November 7, 2018 @ 9:43 AM


Was finally able to give the podcast a listen today and it didn't disappoint. I've always had a huge interest in the business side of the media industry and deep dives like this really give the listener a unique behind-the-scenes look on how decisions are made.

One thing I didn't realize before listening to the podcast was the incompetence that CBC (unfortunately) conducted themselves with throughout the negotiation process. I just assumed they got outbid and that was it, but to hear Shoalts tell it, they made a series of mistakes and really dropped the ball. It's too bad for us as an audience because we would have benefited from some diversification and differentiation between how hockey is broadcast in this country, rather than having a Rogers monopoly on national TV rights.

Rogers has largely done a good job after some inexplicable early missteps (of which there were far too many), but there's just something about the character of the current broadcasts that feels...corporatized or boilerplate. CBC's broadcast felt more homey and authentically Canadian. As Shoalts alluded to in the podcast, it's almost like Rogers tried to 'NFLize' or
'Americanize' the HNIC broadcasts at first. It was a mistake that's been partially remedied, but it still feels like we're missing that unique authentically Canadian feel CBC had. Perhaps that's something that CBC was uniquely well-equipped to deliver.

November 11, 2018 @ 11:51 PM

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