Toronto Mike

Of Dean McDermott, Mary Jo Eustace, Humble and Fred

Yesterday morning, Dean McDermott and Mary Jo Eustace were guests on Humble and Fred's podcast. They Zoomed in from California at 5:15am local time. It also happened to be Dean's birthday. I happen to produce both Humble and Fred's podcast, and Dean and Mary Jo's new podcast, so this was a rather exciting happening for yours truly.

As the conversation turned to Dean leaving his marriage to Mary Jo because he had fallen in love with Tori Spelling, it got very heavy very quickly, and suddenly Dean was gone. He left the Zoom. Here's that episode of Humble and Fred.

Immediately after the segment, I got on a phone call with Mary Jo to discuss what happened. Then I listened closely to the segment, as if it was the Zapruder film, trying to decipher how it went off the rails. I have some personal experience with this!

Finally, later that morning, I connected with Dean. This morning, I went on Humble and Fred's show to share the details of what transpired, and why Dean left the interview. Here's that full episode of Humble and Fred, and here's my appearance.

As I said, I have a lot of empathy for Dean. For the first time in 17 years, he's processing exactly what happened with his marriage to Mary Jo, and that's not easy. I think it's amazing he has these lengthy, heartfelt, authentic conversations with Mary Jo and lets me record every word.

On that note, episode 2 of Ex's & Uh-Oh's! just dropped and it's another doozy. We call this one "D-Day".

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