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Ryan G / Hobo Gauntlet

Reality TV is worse than Hitler.

Flipping around the tv box I noticed the latest new low (or high depending on your perspective). It's a show about who's got the best Christmas lights on the block. We've breached into mainstream religious territory folks. What's next? "Who Can Out Jew The Jew!?"

When it comes to creating conflict, dividing people and looking down your nose at others, don't blame video games or violent movies, blame reality tv.
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December 5, 2014 @ 9:00 AM

Gump

WOOOOOOOOOO. New font! New style sheet!

Mike, when was the last time there was a style change in the template? I feel it has been a loooooonge time.

December 5, 2014 @ 9:03 AM

Jenkins

First things first - the new layout looks great, Mike.

Now, onto business. I'm a Leafs fan. I'll be the first to admit that the team has had major problems with consistency this season. But, during last night's loss to the Devils, some clown shoe threw a jersey onto the ice, yet again.

I mean, come on. The team hadn't lost in regulation in over two weeks. They're currently in a playoff spot. It wasn't a good game, but these scrubbers throwing jerseys onto the ice really get to me.

I understand that at this point, they're probably doing it for the inevitable attention that our horrific local sports media will give them. It still just really gets under my skin.

December 5, 2014 @ 9:12 AM

deb

Reality TV is the main reason I cancelled my cable

December 5, 2014 @ 9:15 AM

Lorne

Okay, Mike, time to talk about the UI.

First a couple positives: The post comment buttons being larger are good, makes it easier to hit. The comment area being wider is also nice, for those of us (*cough*) who tend to write a lot.

A couple minor tweaks I'd do: swap "email" and "url" fields in the comment. Most people will read a form top to bottom before thinking of looking side to side, and "email" is way more important than "url". I'd hazard a guess that way more of your commentors use email than url.

Repeat the "comments" hyperlink at the end of the article preview, where it was before. The "x comments" at the upper right is nice-- but right aligned things are hard to read and find. Plus, people read articles, reach the end, and then want to comment. Making them scroll back up to hit the link isn't good. Having both means there's extra ways of reaching the comments, and that's even better.

Change the style of the "Preview" button, and move it to the right of "Post Comment". They're nearly indistinguishable, and with UI, someone is most likely to hit the left one (the easiest one to reach). I'd suggest turning preview into a regular, underlined hyperlink too, to completely distinguish it from Post comment and make it blatant that it is a different function.

The bad (to be positively critical):
1) The comments are kinda hard to read now. It's the dark background and dark text. There's way too much wasted space. They look and feel like little pieces of useless text floating in a sea of white, rather than a threaded, serious comment. Plus they don't take advantage of the width of the screen. They "feel" way more like intersessional quoted text that one can just skip over, rather than actual comments. I'd suggest going back to something more like the older style-- larger font for the name. lighter background, darker text. Full width. Less space between comments. Add a border-bottom or some other way of separating the comments other than white space and no border. They're way too "flat" right now.

2) I'd also have no bottom padding/margin between the last comment, and the "leave comment" text. The padding forces the comment section off the bottom of the page while reading the last comment, unless I do a lot more scrolling. I didn't even know it was there. I'd also put (x) Comments and Share This on the same line, rather than taking up space on two different lines. The comments are a huge part of your blog. Don't hide the input box waaaaay down there.

3) The header. The friggin header. I absolutely hate floating headers. They're useless. I know there's a header there. If I want to interact with it, I'll scroll up and do so. You know what I want to do when scrolling through an article and comments? Read them. I don't want or need the header constantly in my face. I know what blog I'm on. I'm aware there are podcasts and a search function. I really, really don't need it shoved in my face the whole time.

It also takes up about 20% of the available vertical screen space I have. I'd rather than space be taken up by your writing, and the comments.

Haaaaaaaaaaaaate! (this one is certainly a hate-on rather that constructive, but--)
That fucking logo. When you first scroll, and the logo animates and resizes the header, and because of that the ENTIRE PAGE jumps. No. Just fucking no. Yes, I get it, it looks flashy-- but all what that does is put more animated shit on a page that should be static. And when I start to scroll, and instead the page jumps around and things animate and the sizing of the page changes, all what that does is trigger my "oh shit something is wrong" sense. Scrolling a page isn't behaving as expected, something's wrong! It looks like I accidentally clicked something and the page is navigating, something's wrong!

position:static. Not position:fixed. =(

December 5, 2014 @ 9:15 AM

Lorne

Also, looking at the comment I just posted: more padding needed in a

tag. All the paragraphs are just squished together. It's harder to read long comments.

ul.comments .comment-block p
{
padding: 0.6em; /* somewhere between 0.4 and 0.7 probably */
}

Also, I wonder what quotes look like now:

This is me quoting something that doesn't exist.

- Winston "Lincoln" Churchill

Looks more or less the same. That would be a good spot to use a slightly darker background.

Also, clicking "preview" takes me to the old-style page, I realize.

December 5, 2014 @ 9:19 AM

Lorne

Ah, so the quote doesn't look anything like the old-style, it was just because of the old page. I miss the old-style blockquote style. It really made the "quote" stand out. Maybe if the new quote style had margin-left:1em, so the quote border was indented instead of being aligned with the text.

(I'd still go for a border, and different font style, and a different background color, to really distinguish "quote" from "comment")

December 5, 2014 @ 9:21 AM

Argie

"All the paragraphs are just squished together"

I don't like that. Also I find it too spread out. My neck is hurting already and it early in the discussion.

December 5, 2014 @ 9:24 AM

Ryan G

@Deb - I hear ya. Back in the olden days it seemed like you'd come across only a few reality shows, but now they seem to be everywhere, all the time. I can tell in an instant when flipping by if something is produced reality style or not, and it's too bad because some of the content would otherwise be interesting to me. It's like real life (aka a documentary about living conditions in the far north) is just too boring for the moronic masses so they gotta trump it up with bullshit (aka a reality show about two families living in the far north who try to outdo each other to catch the most fish).

December 5, 2014 @ 9:25 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

Quick note re: redesign... it's a work in progress. I haven't even implemented it on the category, date-based archive or search pages yet.

Please share all feedback, good or bad, but especially bad.

@Gump

I think this is the first redesign in about 8 years, but I need to verify that.

December 5, 2014 @ 9:37 AM

this guest

@ mike

good work in progress re: redesign.
nothing like being The Duke of URL

@ 'Reality' TV shows.
nothing I like better than seeing the 'real life' experiences of people
who were brought up on Reality TV.
It's so
so
so
so

real. especially visiting mom and dad and siblings in their Potemkin Village bliss zone.
"And this is where we keep the snow plow."

December 5, 2014 @ 9:44 AM

Gump

"I, for one, welcome our new GUI overlords."

December 5, 2014 @ 9:46 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

Ok, changes are being made...

1. I swapped "email" and "url" fields
2. I'm bringing back something close to the old blockquote mark-up
3. I'm adding more padding to the comments - definitely makes it more readable

More tweaks coming to enhance your visitor experience.

@Lorne

I've got CSS now to make images and YouTube videos responsive, so they shrink for tablet, mobile, etc. But I have a very wide Adsense ad that doesn't shrink.... any idea how I can get that ad to be responsive?

December 5, 2014 @ 9:50 AM

deb

Hey Ryan,

I think the combination of not having to pay stars or writers was too much for them to resist.
The fact that Jersey Shore did well was the beginning of the end for me

December 5, 2014 @ 9:54 AM

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December 5, 2014 @ 10:39 AM

Glen

I fell in love with "Mad Men" because it's the antithesis of reality TV. The worst part of reality TV for me are those talking head segments. It's where the contestants talk into the camera telling you what's happening in the kitchen or the island when in fact they are just badly reading scripts provided to them by the shows producers.


I'm surprised a network hasn't created a sitcom set on a reality TV show. It's so ripe for satire and mockery.


December 5, 2014 @ 10:43 AM

Cheryl

Well, my trainer doesn't curl this weekend, but my trainer's team does. First game 11:30 this morning. Hope they win. Hopefully my Nets, Suns and Habs win tonight. My Coyotes lost. No good. /As for the new design, I don't notice much about it. The url is before the email address though.

December 5, 2014 @ 10:47 AM

Irv

Did you need a neck massage Argie?

Funny but this iPhone corrected Argie to Argue LOL

December 5, 2014 @ 10:57 AM

Argie

@Irv
...and yet I never argue with anyone.

December 5, 2014 @ 11:03 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

Ok, firstly that was some awesomely detailed feedback Lorne. I implemented a bunch of your recommendations and put a few others in the "wait and see" and "maybe" pile.

Are the comments more legible for everybody?

December 5, 2014 @ 11:06 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

It turns out the last real redesign of this site was way back in 2009: http://www.torontomike.com/2009/03/the_history_of_this_site_in_pi.html

December 5, 2014 @ 11:10 AM

Lorne

@Mike: Nice work in progress. =)

Let me see if I can figure anything on the Adsense responsive. I've had troubles making it responsive in the past, because it ends up rendering with a fixed width.

December 5, 2014 @ 11:12 AM

Lorne

Something to check in the code template: you may have an unclosed div tag somewhere. All the comments are nested in each other, instead of siblings?

December 5, 2014 @ 11:14 AM

Lyle Lanley

Whoa. This site hadn't changed in forever, except when the new logo showed up a few years ago.

I like it, and it looks great on my phone.

December 5, 2014 @ 11:15 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

Still to do:

Preview template
Search template
Archive page
Category archives
Date-based archives

But I still want feedback!

Argie, are these comments better for you?

December 5, 2014 @ 11:18 AM

Alison in Ottawa

Looks great visually Mike but I find the colour of the type of the blog post and comments a bit light on my screen, making it a bit of a strain to read.

December 5, 2014 @ 11:23 AM

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@Allison in Ottawa

Nothing beats a black font colour. I've made that change now. Hopefully it's less straining to read now.

December 5, 2014 @ 11:33 AM

Lorne

Something weird has me stumped. It used to be if I read down to the last comment, then click Refresh (usually after coming back after a while), the refreshed page would be in the same position (and new comments there for reading).

Now refresh send me back to the top of the page.

Made sure there's no "#" in the URL-- tried a few times to be sure it wasn't because a CSS or HTML update just happened.

Maybe related to the nested divs? I'll keep on eye on that one.

December 5, 2014 @ 11:39 AM

this guest

@ Glen

that's an excellent idea. I'm surprised too it hasn't been done, come to think of it.
A satire in the Larry Sanders Show mode.

December 5, 2014 @ 11:39 AM

Al The Royal Pain

@Mike

I like the redesign, and I like some of @Lorne's suggestions...mostly the ones you've already implemented.

My only suggestion would be to have your comments section threaded. So if someone is replying to someone else's comment, it would appear directly below and indented from the comment that it is referring to. I would then also suggest that you collapse the replies. What I think this would accomplish (especially for the open mics) is it would clean up the clutter of the arguments that frequently start between commenters. If I want to read them, I can expand them, if I don't want to read them, I can skip on to the next conversation.

December 5, 2014 @ 11:39 AM

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@Al The Royal Pain

Yes, you're right. I need proper replying and the ability to collapse. I've got a little work to do on the backend to get that going, so that'll be a future phase.

@Lorne

I'm changing a lot of stuff so I think that's why you went to the top of the page. I think I fixed that nested div issue. Each comment is now just within a .

December 5, 2014 @ 11:44 AM

Glen

@TorontoMike


In case you don't have enough headaches today here's another one. We'd love to have the ability to edit our comments on your blog after posting them.

Not being able to correct bad grammar and spelling mistakes on my posts drives me crazy.


December 5, 2014 @ 11:56 AM

Jason from Sudbury

Why the redesign? I don't like it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. That is all.

December 5, 2014 @ 12:06 PM

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@Jason from Sudbury

I agree with the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality typically, but I believe the old design was broken.

There was no mobile version. It was designed for desktops six years ago when 95% of visits were from desktop / laptop browsers.

Today, half the visits are coming from tablets or smart phones. I had to improve that experience.

December 5, 2014 @ 1:18 PM

this guest

I'd like to be able to edit other posters' political comments
if that is a feature
that can be worked in.

December 5, 2014 @ 1:21 PM

Lynne

Looks good to me! Thanks Mike.

December 5, 2014 @ 1:33 PM

Argie

I kind of agree with Jason, if it aint broke....

That said, I'm okay with the new look.

December 5, 2014 @ 1:44 PM

test

hello, world

December 5, 2014 @ 2:14 PM

Irv

Monster cyber attacks currently targeting Ferguson Missouri.
#TangoDown

December 5, 2014 @ 2:32 PM

Speysidephil

Hello Test!

December 5, 2014 @ 2:33 PM

Tim

Not keen on the redesign Mike. At least the font is bigger now. On a lighter note ,I have a great idea for regular posters. Join with me in celebrating the 12 beers of christmas. Pick up a twelve of craft beer and have a different one everyday until Christmas day. You can always post your comments here ( if that is okay Mike) ... Merry Beer drinking Christmas everybody!!!!!

December 5, 2014 @ 2:59 PM

Lorne

@jason I have the same attitude as you, but in this case I do agree with Mike. A more robust mobile design would benefit a lot of users. The first iteration made me a bit nervous, but I'm kinda digging how the change is turning out. I don't mind it so much when it's "keep what's there, improve it a bit, and make it easier to use and better for mobile".

Too many sites these days get the "Everything's a tablet" brainworm, and completely fuck up their interfaces with the worst of both worlds, and lose all their users. ;)

December 5, 2014 @ 4:19 PM

andrew

Your background white is TOO BRIGHT. Tone it down a little bit.

December 5, 2014 @ 5:10 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@andrew

Let me get this straight. Everyone wants the contrast better in the comments so it's more legible, and I go ahead and make the text black and the background white, and now you're telling me the white is too white.

White is white. I suggest dimming your screen. :P

December 5, 2014 @ 5:14 PM

this guest

Let us discuss white.

Kazimir Malevich (Russian, born Ukraine. 1878–1935)
Suprematist Composition: White on White
http://www.moma.org/collection/object.php?object_id=80385

December 5, 2014 @ 5:22 PM

this guest

I felt sorry for the killer Ferguson cop at first
thinking he'd be a scapegoat for a lot of history
but reading his convoluted impossible bullshit
story to the grand jury I realize he's just another
illiterate hick rattling around the ol' plantation
willing to pin anything on anybody to save his skunk hide

December 5, 2014 @ 5:27 PM

Jason from Sudbury

What can I say. I'm a creature of habbit who doesn't like change. It just kinda threw me off coming here and seeing the change after visiting and seeing it the same way for 3 or 4 years? To be honest I don't know how long I've even been commenting here. I think I just observed for a while. I also have a couple of different email addresses so might be more difficult to see when I first commented.

December 5, 2014 @ 5:32 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Jason from Sudbury

With this email address, it was January 2011: http://www.torontomike.com/2011/01/biggs_and_barr_new_morning_tea.html

And yes, change can suck. Why do you think I waited 6 years before modifying this HTML? I honestly think it's very important this site work well on a smartphone, and I think if you give this a little time you'll see it's not bad... in fact, it might be a little better.

December 5, 2014 @ 5:37 PM

Lorne

@Mike: black on white is the best to go, for sure. The comment box, I realize, may be throwing people a bit. The textarea here has a very light border, and very light text. If you don't want to go black-on-white here, maybe a few shades darker for both text and border? It does feel a bit "washed out"-- almost like I'm typing in a textbox that should be readonly.

@Jason: I'm a creature of habit too. I've left sites for major UI redesigns that made them unusable. Trust me, you haven't seen bad redesigns until you've seen bad redesigns. This one would get my thumbs up-- there's only minor layout changes (left vs. right sidebar, I'm sure there's a debate there), some larger fonts (always looks weird, but it isn't horrible). The functionality is the same (articles in a list, native comment system top to bottom with a textbox at the bottom). Doesn't require a new account to use. I would personally go for a bit less whitespace in certain places, but it isn't a dealbreaker.

December 5, 2014 @ 6:17 PM

Lorne

@Mike: quite note, having typed that.

Can you give the textarea padding-right:0px. Having padding-right pushes the scrollbar over and looks & functions weird. (past a bunch of text into the textarea to see).

Less important, more an aesthetic thing-- could you put overflow-y:scoll on the textarea, to force the scrollbar to always show, even when it isn't in a scrollable state? Again, just comes down to when the scrollbar DOES appear, it takes up some pixels, and causes the whole text area to "jump" while it reflows. I'm sure 99% of the commentors don't leave long enough comments to go more than 10 rows, though, so it's probably just me. =)

December 5, 2014 @ 6:20 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Lorne

What exactly do you mean? In the textarea, it's black text on a white background, and the scrollbar doesn't show up until scrollable:

December 5, 2014 @ 6:43 PM

BJ

That pic totally fooled me. I clicked it to write a comment and I went to Flickr.

My comment is that I love the new site. Well done!

December 5, 2014 @ 6:44 PM

Jason from Sudbury

Wow, a bit weird seeing my first post on this site. So yeah since then unfortunately Iron Mike Bensson has passed. I still miss hearing his voice on the radio.

Someone else on that same entry asked about Gonzo. I googled him when I heard that Corus killed 106.9 The Bear in Ottawa and replaced it with some top 40 jump fresh crap. Last I read apparently Gonzo was running for city councilor in Ottawa. That was a while back though.


December 5, 2014 @ 7:58 PM

Irv

@thisguest:

There is some evidence that the KKK has a foothold in the Ferguson police department. Obviously unsubstantiated but it's out there.

@TorontoMike

I'm fine with the redesign. Did you need a penetration test to test your security? I'll get my lawyer to draw up a contract. Rival bloggers may not like you !!!!

December 5, 2014 @ 8:25 PM

Anonymous

In just a week's time, two different grand juries in two different states decided not to charge cops who killed unarmed citizens. Prosecutors in Missouri intentionally rigged the grand jury process by instructing them to make a decision based on a law that was struck down as unconstitutional 30 years ago. And the DA who oversaw that grand jury also oversees an organization that raises money for cops. The grand jury process has to be completely scrapped if we're to have real justice.

December 5, 2014 @ 9:41 PM

Cheryl

Well, my Suns won so that's a good thing, but my Nets lost. I wish my Nets would win more. They were leading in the first quarter, but they were sloppy the rest of the game and lost it. good thing the Raptors lost. That's wonderful. My Habs lost though. They did try to come back, but they lose 4 to 3. My Trainer lost two games already. One more loss and my trainer's team is gone. They're really not doing so well without my trainer actually playing. They're doing well on Tuesday nights though so they could win Major League. colour means nothing to me. doesn't matter if it is too white or too black. As long as I can read with Jaws, it's okay.

December 6, 2014 @ 6:15 AM

Irv

@Anonymous

I agree. The grand jury in Ferguson and in NYC over that guy who was choked boggles my mind. Now I see some people who declare "well the law is the law, so therefore it was the right choice". This happened in a country where we were once told smoking was healthy, a country that bailed out it's banking system which destroyed itself & a nation who passed what is called the "Monsanto protection act". The sad part is that in the NYC thing the guy who filmed the dude was indicted. The cop who killed the guy was not. Amazing.

The fact is the kid (Ferguson) was unarmed. I've no issue with police using lethal force if lethal force is going to be used against them. But when it comes to shooting unarmed people (or criminals) where does it stop? Will you get shot because you got pulled over by a cop and got out of the car to argue with him? Where is the line drawn when it's "OK to shoot an unarmed person".

America default setting lately seems to be "simmering with rage". How long till something really serious happens? You've got a polarized political system where people literally hate each other. You've got a population fed "manufactured truth" by a media whose first priority is the bottom line. And you've got a nation that is armed to the tits. That's a dangerous mix.

December 6, 2014 @ 1:01 PM

Irv

BTW, I see gas prices in Ontario are now at 99 cents a litre. I'm curious. Does this mean the big oil companies are still ripping people off? Is this "big oil" manipulating the markets? LOL.

And most interesting is that prices for gas in Ontario are almost the same as in Alberta. Golly gee, could it be because the price of Brent Crude & West Texas is almost the same? Didn't I point that fact out years ago explaining why Ontario gas prices are higher (because you buy foreign oil at Brent prices).

Capitalism: when prices go down
Ripping people off: When prices go up.

It's like eating too much cake & complaining your fat.

December 6, 2014 @ 1:12 PM

Lorne

@mike, here's what I mean (with screenshots =) ). This is Firefox.

First, let's type until we're one character away from triggering the scrollbar. Notice the position of the rightmost words, like "standard".

Now type that last character. The scrollbar appears.
1) Because it has padding-right, it is not flush with the right border of the textbox. Notice the gap.
2) Because the scroll bar takes up pixels, the textbox is effectively narrower. This causes all the paragraphs to reflow. Notice the words "standard" (amongst other) are now broken onto a second line. This means the entire textbox "jumps around" when I type that last character. The cursor isn't where I was looking. It's jarring.

That's what I mean... if you took out padding-right on the "textarea" css (or explicitly set it to padding-right:0px !important), then the scrollbar will always be flush against the border. And if you set overflow-y:scroll, then the scrollbar will always show, always take up it's space, and will never force a reflow of the textarea.

December 6, 2014 @ 1:43 PM

Al The Royal Pain

@Irv

Actually what is happening is that the middle east is flooding the market with oil to drive the price down in order to negate North American Oil.

What most of us don't understand is that it's more expensive to extract oil from the oil sands than it is to drill for it. Canadian oil isn't viable for any price under $1/ltr. The higher prices we've been experiencing the past few years have actually favoured Canadian oil. By driving prices down, the middle east is making it impossible for Canadian oil to make a profit.

December 6, 2014 @ 3:38 PM

Al The Royal Pain

So yes, it is capitalism at work...but it's working against us.

December 6, 2014 @ 3:39 PM

Argie

@Irv and Al
Do you want to know why oil prices have dropped? Its the same reason they were rising a few years ago: SUPPLY AND DEMAN. No conspiracy, just simple economics.

December 6, 2014 @ 7:42 PM

Al The Royal Pain

@Argie
Agreed it is supply and demand but it's because the middle east is increasing the supply thereby decreasing demand. It's a strategic move on their part.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/saudi-oil-price-cut-upends-market-1415063053

December 6, 2014 @ 8:06 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

Ok, I've removed the sticky menu. I thought it was neat, but in the end I thought the cost of screen real estate wasn't worth the cool effect.

If you miss the sticky menu when you scroll, let me know.

December 6, 2014 @ 10:37 PM

this guest

@ Irv,

It's not that the KKK might be in the Ferguson police force
somehow
it's that probably there's actually no difference.

December 6, 2014 @ 11:52 PM

Before Cheryl

Well, my Suns lost so that's not a good thing, and my Habs lost also 4-1 I wish my Habs would win more. They were tired in the first period, but they were sloppy the rest of the game and lost it. Good thing the Leafs won. That's wonderful. My Habs lost though. They did try to come back, but they lose 4 to 1. My Trainer lost . My trainer's team is gone. They're really not doing so well without my trainer actually playing.My trainer's team sucks when he does not play. They're doing well on Tuesday nights though so they could win Major League.
My Ravens and Cardinals will win today i know that for sure anyways.

December 7, 2014 @ 5:09 AM

Cheryl

Yes, my Habs lost and so did my coyotes. Unfortunately the Leafs won. My Suns also lost. Anyway, ready for some football. My Ravens and Cardinals will win. I need wins for sure. They'll do it. You're right my trainer's team sucks without my trainer playing. They lost. It's no good. My trainer plays on Tuesday nights so that's why they win.

December 7, 2014 @ 6:44 AM

Cheryl


Well, football was great today. My Ravens won and my Cardinals won and the Seahawks won. Anyway, I amn ahead in the pool, but there have been some complaints floating around by other guys saying that it's not fair that I have three teams. Well, look, one guy died and I got offered another team. Now there is a guy who has Steelers and Broncos. He has 18 wins. I have 27 wins because I have Seattle. Take Seattle away and I'm tied. I may not win. It would suck if I don't. If there were going to be complaints, I never should have been offered teams from the guy who died. Oh well.

December 7, 2014 @ 8:14 PM

The_Voice

Sorry if already mentioned, but "Discuss" buttons should have included the number of comments so far. Having it at the top, and then separately the "discuss" button doesn't do it for me.

December 8, 2014 @ 3:16 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@The_Voice

I'll make that change now.... good suggestion.

December 8, 2014 @ 3:42 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

Ok, now on the home page, where I have the button to discuss the entry, it tells you how many comments there are.

December 8, 2014 @ 3:57 PM

Cheryl

Well, football pool news. I just got a phone call from the leader. He said that there have been some complaints and he said it's his fault. He never should have offered teams from the dead or from the people dropping out. He said I am so far ahead of everyone else and it just isn't fair and he would like me to drop a team. I said I didn't want to and I won't. We argued for a bit and then he gave in saying he'll let it go. I probably need the money more than anyone else, but it will never happen again. He won't let it happen again.

December 8, 2014 @ 6:14 PM

The Voice

Wow. Thanks for taking the suggestion :)

December 9, 2014 @ 2:13 PM

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