Mimico: What's So Special About Mimico?

Published by Toronto Mike on January 2, 2014 @ 10:37 in Toronto News ~ Toronto Focus

Mimico: What's So Special About Mimico?During yesterday's Winter Classic, Detroit's Brendan Smith was referred to as being "from Mimico". A couple of Leafs, Dave Bolland and David Clarkson, are also "Mimico boys". In high school, I heard all about the legend of alumnus Brendan Shanahan "from Mimico".

For the unaware, Mimico is a neighbourhood in southwest Toronto, part of the old Borough of Etobicoke. Mimico is not in any way separate from Toronto. Anyone from Mimico is actually from the city of Toronto.

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Full disclosure: I now live in the Toronto neighbourhood that borders Mimico to the west and seriously considered buying in Mimico. My new neighbourhood is called New Toronto, but you'll never hear someone's a "New Toronto boy" or "from New Toronto". They'll just be from Toronto, or maybe Etobicoke.

My question is simple... Why are those from Mimico labelled such as if it's seperate from Toronto? What's so special about Mimico?

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54 Responses to "Mimico: What's So Special About Mimico?"

Philly-Bob
January 2, 2014 / 10:51

@ Mike - It's weird. It's the same in Mississauga. I live in the area that was called Cooksville before Mississauga was formed. I never say I'm from Cooksville, I say I'm from Mississauga. However, if you live west of Crediview and north of Eglinton...all of a sudden you're not from Mississauga....you're from Streetsville. No other part of Mississauga does this.

While I'm okay with regional terms and all that, I think having Bolland listed as from "Mimico, ON" on NHL is a bit much....there is no such city....he's from Toronto. That would be like listing Matt Stajan as from Streetsville...he wasn't, he was from Mississauga...

Toronto Mike
January 2, 2014 / 10:55

@Philly-Bob

You're right... they do the same thing with Streetsville.

In an unrelated move, I'm changing my name to Parkdale Mike.

Argie
January 2, 2014 / 11:03

@Mike
You wouldn't want to tell anyone you're from Parkdale. High Park maybe but not Parkdale.

Corey
January 2, 2014 / 11:17

I've wondered the same thing. I've had occasion to have a beer or two at the Blue Goose, where I've heard regulars refer to New Toronto residents in derogatory terms. There some pervasive, blue-collar, fiercely independent streak there - Mimico really resented being first annexed to Etobicoke, and the later amalgamation. I know Bolland's parents insisted on him being listed as specifically from Mimico rather than Toronto right from his OHL days. Like a lot of Mimico residents they believe that's where they're from, not Toronto.

Argie
January 2, 2014 / 11:33

Judging by David Clarkson's play, the people of Mimico will want to deny he's ever lived there.

Wikipedia
January 2, 2014 / 11:35

Mimico is the oldest of the former Lakeshore Municipalities. The former Town of Mimico was sub-divided from the former Township of Etobicoke in 1911. The land area of Mimico was mainly from three estates (former farms): Stock Estate (North of Portland), Hendry Estate (between Royal York and Queens Ave), Van Every Estate (between Royal York Rd and Dwight Ave). Mimico was an independent municipality until 1967, when it was amalgamated into the new Borough of Etobicoke (later, City of, in 1984), which was itself amalgamated in 1998 into the current city of Toronto.

Charron
January 2, 2014 / 11:37

@Toronto Mike

Here's a tidbit from Wikipedia about Mimico and your New Toronto:

Mimico's largest employer was traditionally the railway (with its yards mostly located in New Toronto), but because New Toronto was planned as an industrial town, many larger industries located there. Nevertheless, a new train station was needed and was built on the south side of the tracks near the north end of Station Road. In 1909, a hotel was established beside the railway called the Windsor Hotel (today the Blue Goose Tavern). Although other 1890s subdivisions in Toronto at Roncesvalles and the Beaches were entirely built up in the pre-war years Mimico's growth was slow with no street being fully built and some still without any residences built on them. Nevertheless many foursquare houses were built mostly in south-central Mimico in this period. In 1916, a referendum was held on the question of New Toronto joining Mimico, this was accepted by Mimico voters but rejected in New Toronto.

Toronto Mike
January 2, 2014 / 11:43

It sounds like those from Mimico are a lot like us Leaf fans. They live in the world before 1968.

Mimico was independent until 1967, and like Corey says, many prefer to pretend it's still that way. It's like me when I remind the nay sayers that my Leafs have the 2nd most Stanley Cups in NHL history.

Fun Fact: Every time Dave Bolland wins a Stanley Cup (twice so far), he brings the cup to the Blue Goose Tavern where members of his family still work. Unfortunately, since he's been traded to Toronto, this will never happen again.

Toronto Mike
January 2, 2014 / 11:47

@Argie

With the rust gone, Clarkson is looking better lately.

And he is a passionate member of the water bottle police. I love that intensity!

Argie
January 2, 2014 / 11:54

@Mike
I still think he's a 3rd line at best. They could have picked up a similar player from the scrapheap and paid him a million a year.

If your nest question is "where do you find players like that?" Just look at Mason Raymond. Picked up for nothing, paid 1 mil a year and is a much better player.

Philly-Bob
January 2, 2014 / 11:57

@ Argie - You're right. It was the splash of bringing in 2 local boys to help turn the franchise around. Clarkson got the money he got because he's from Toronto....sorry Mimco

Plus...look at the cash we just shelled out for Dion....talk about a waste of money.

Toronto Mike
January 2, 2014 / 12:05

@Philly-Bob

Clarkson got the money he got because he was the best UFA available. it's all supply and demand.

And that's exactly why Dion got his deal. He'd get more elsewhere, and it would cost us more to replace him. Despite what the Phaneuf haters say, he's a solid defenseman and arguably in the NHL's top 20-25. Without a doubt he's our best, and nobody better is on their way to Toronto.

Toronto Mike
January 2, 2014 / 12:08

@Argie

You're right... he's way overpaid for a 3rd liner. Contract aside though, I like him with Kulemin and McClement on that 3rd line.

Speysidephil
January 2, 2014 / 12:22

Clarkson was invisible in the Classic as he has been most games for the Leafs.
I really liked this signing but really unless something happens real soon the boo birds will be out In full force at the A/C.

And Mike are you trying to tell me something, my personal info is not being saved, I have to input it every time I comment. Is it me or your program??

Toronto Mike
January 2, 2014 / 12:25

@Speysidephil

Haha... I'm not trying to tell you anything. :)

Those fields are remembered when you click the box next to "Remember personal info?" thanks to this JavaScript: http://www.torontomike.com/mt-site.js

Did it suddenly stop working for you?

Lyle Lanley
January 2, 2014 / 12:34

It sounds like those from Mimico feel they should still have independence, so saying they're from Mimico instead of Toronto is their form of protest.

Anonymous
January 2, 2014 / 12:49

@Mike
Yep it quit a few days ago and I still fill in the remember box.

Philly-Bob
January 2, 2014 / 13:00

@ Mike - Just because Dion is the best defenceman on the Leafs, doesn't mean he deserves to be paid like one of the best in the NHL. There is no argument you can make to me that will convince me he is worth 7 mil per year for 7 years. I would have let him walk for anything more that 3 years at 5 mil. I'd rather see this team tank for another 5 years and draft than to continuously pay 2nd and 3rd line players like they're 1st liners. Chara is a cap hit of 7 mil next year....is Phaneuf even in the same league as Chara...no, no he's not.

You and I agree he's the best defenceman on the leafs right now...but that's not saying much.....

Speysidephil
January 2, 2014 / 13:03

Anonymous was me.

Toronto Mike
January 2, 2014 / 13:16

@Speysidephil

If you try it with another browser, does it work?

Did anyone else on this blog notice your info isn't being remembered in the fields anymore?

Toronto Mike
January 2, 2014 / 13:18

@Philly-Bob

It's not fair to compare Phaneuf's deal to deals signed in previous years. Nobody is saying Phaneuf is better than Chara. Chara, on today's open market, would be worth maximum dollars.

Philly-Bob
January 2, 2014 / 13:23

@ Mike - My point is that Phaneauf is not worth 7 mil per year..if some other team wants to pay him that...let them. I'd be just as happy with a Paneauf-less team and 7 mil more on the cap to spend.

You cite that he's our Captain...that is because of Burke and Wilson...oh jeez...he turned the music up in the locker room...let's make him the captain....I can guarantee you, if the Leafs had no Captain when Carlyle and Nonis came to town, there'd be no "C" on his chest right now....

Toronto Mike
January 2, 2014 / 13:26

And if anyone is curious, an NHL player's annual salary cannot exceed 20 percent of the salary cap, based on the cap as it stands in the year the contract is signed.

A little Googling tells me the salary cap this season is $64.3M.  20%
of that is $12.86M.  So Chara might not get maximum dollars, but he'd
get well more than $7M per season.

Shea Weber, my personal favourite NHL defenseman, is making $14 million a season right now. That should give you some perspective on Phaneuf's deal. It's a fair deal for a player of Phaneuf's calibre...

And I didn't say anything about him being our captain. That must have been someone else.

Argie
January 2, 2014 / 13:42

Wrong Mike! Weber's cap hit is $7.857 vs Phaneuf's hit of 7. Our concern is the cap hit - not what he's taking home.

Speysidephil
January 2, 2014 / 13:42

@Mike
OK I'm trying google chrome.

mrmojorisinca
January 2, 2014 / 13:43

I get Dion isn't Shea Weber..also at the start of the season I didn't think he was worth more then 6.5 he was already making but looking at his minutes in comparison to TOP 10 d-men in the NHL its what he is worth..Weber is making 14 Million..Dion is at Half that..I';d say the leafs did ok here..also you saying you rather have them at the bottom of the leauge another 5 years is easy to say when you are watching from home..with 65 million who would you be signing?

Toronto Mike
January 2, 2014 / 13:44

@Argie

You're right, I'm wrong. Weber's cap hit is $7,857,143.

Toronto Mike
January 2, 2014 / 13:46

Great site for salaries and cap hits, btw, is http://www.capgeek.com/

And now, back to Mimico...

Argie
January 2, 2014 / 13:47

On a side note - when do they announce the Olympic team? A buddy at work here says its today but I haven't any indication of it on TSN, Sportsnet, CBC.

mrmojorisinca
January 2, 2014 / 13:49

Weber deal is 15 years or something stupid like that..so not exactly apples to apples.
The leafs aren't a contender as of yet..but they are getting there, more so since the mind 1990's so be happy as a leaf fan..They have shown more wiliness to win in the last 5 years then as far back as I remember.. and if your not a leaf fan making arguments on how good Dion is or not really look at the teams your rooting for then..I'm sure there is something wrong with them..unless its Chicago then your good :)

mrmojorisinca
January 2, 2014 / 13:50

olympic team I think I heard the 6th of january.

Speysidephil
January 2, 2014 / 13:50

@Argie
I think not for a few days yet Argie. Not real sure though.

@Mike
Go figure, google saved personal info.

Toronto Mike
January 2, 2014 / 13:51

@Speysidephil

I haven't changed that JavaScript in years... should work in any browser with JavaScript enabled. Did you disable it on your other browser? Maybe by accident?

Speysidephil
January 2, 2014 / 13:56

@Mike
Nope I didn't disable it, but I'll use google from now on. Thanks Mike.

Toronto Mike
January 2, 2014 / 13:56

Re: Team Canada...

I love Reimer, but Bernier playing exceptional lately. Why not take him to Sochi as the #3 goaltender?

I'd go with Mike Smith, Carey Price and Jonathan Bernier.

Argie
January 2, 2014 / 14:08

Bernier & Reimer have played well this year but there's no way either of them will be selected. The selecting committee are looking at previous years' work as well.

I expect Smith, Price & Luongo. Also, don't expect Neon Dion to be on the team either.

Toronto Mike
January 2, 2014 / 14:15

@Argie

I don't expect Dion to make the team, but he's definitely in the conversation. His defensive play is much improved over the last couple of seasons. I'll bet his $7M looks like a bargain in a year or two when the cap goes way up thanks to the Rogers deal.

Smith, Price and Luongo is a good bet, but I'd like to see Bernier there instead of Luongo. And that's not bias speaking... my wife will vouch that I root for my adopted son Reimer to start every Leafs game. :)

4x4 Time
January 2, 2014 / 14:31

Mimico is "special" because it has it's own GO Train station..

Corey
January 2, 2014 / 14:37

@Phil
But Nonis and (presumably, to some degree) Carlyle are responsible for handing Phaneuf the long term deal that you hate. Evidently they believe in the guy. Why do you say he wouldn't be Captain if it had been their decision?

elvis
January 2, 2014 / 16:45

@Argie - brilliant! "Judging by David Clarkson's play, the people of Mimico will want to deny he's ever lived there."

Mike from Lowville
January 3, 2014 / 15:52

Now that the power and cable/internet are working again, to the topic. Mike I think people are proud of the little village or town they live in that was swallowed up by the brain child idea of Mike Harris and before that municipal/regional governments over the years. Like me. I live in Burlington but say I live in Lowville which is part of Burlington. Lots of examples of that all over Canada.

Mrmojorisinca
January 3, 2014 / 20:48


Hockey Canada is announcing its men's team for the 2014 Sochi Olympic Winter Games on Tuesday. You can catch full coverage live on TSN, TSN Radio and TSN.ca at 10:30am et/7:30am pt.

Al
January 6, 2014 / 14:12

It could have something to do with your passport. When I applied for my first passport I wrote that I was born in Toronto, while my birth cert says York. The service agent saw this and corrected it to York which now shows on my passport. So I think anyone born before amalgamation has the former borough name on their passport and that's probably where they get their hockey card stats from.

This also happens with other boroughs - I just met someone who said they were from Malton and I know others who are proud to be from Port Credit, Clarkson, Meadowvale and Lorne Park.

jabalong
January 6, 2014 / 23:44

Any city is a community of neighbourhoods, so it's not surprising to hear people in conversation within the city talk about being from a Mimico or a Streetsville to relate where exactly they live.

But it is strange for people to do so once talking to people outside the city (Mimico is unlikely to mean anything to anyone from beyond Toronto or maybe the GTA). And it may seem even stranger to see these old names still pop up in official or semi-official use.

That said, the status quo is a powerful thing as is people's attachments to an existing sense of identity. So as cities have grown through amalgamation, going back a century or even more, there's always a hangover as people and their communities hold on to their identities rooted in the old place names.

I remember moving to Etobicoke in the late 1980s and wondering why my school was listed as being in Islington, ON. Coming from another city, I was already scratching my head wondering what Etobicoke was (hadn't I moved to Toronto?), so it was even stranger to find out that my school was not only on Islington Avenue, but apparently in "Islington" too.

I think Canada Post perpetuated a lot of this as back then all these local community names tended to still be used, officially I think, in people's addresses. My sense is that when amalgamation of the old Metro Toronto came about, along with issues of duplicate street names in the city, there was a push to have all the postal addresses just use "Toronto, ON".

I'm just guessing here, but I think a lot of other government and official uses of places names historically took their cue from these official Canada Post addresses. As such, I could see birth certificates working off that, which in turn feeds into passports and so on.

That said, I guess an interesting question would be historically how did Canada Post decide on what community names should be used? I'd imagine the postal service is one of the services that is slowest to change, so it wouldn't be surprising that it might have been the one to perpetuate the longest the use of archaic names.

Colleen Grimes
January 8, 2014 / 10:02

The answer to this questions is Mimico Lacrosse.

David Bolland, Brendan Shanahan, Brendan Smith, Reilly Smith (Brendan's younger brother) have a lot more in common than playing in the National Hockey League.

All four boys went to St. Leo school in Mimico, grew up playing hockey AND lacrosse. Brendan and Reilly's older brother Rory is a professional lacrosse player for the Buffalo Bandits. They all played for the Mimico Mountaineers and were exceptionally good lacrosse players.

MIMICO
January 8, 2014 / 11:50

@Argie - Clarkson isn't actually from Mimico...

Anonymous
January 8, 2014 / 12:02

It seems like everybody knows each other in mimico somehow like a small town. I don't think there's many places like that in the city

Tyler
January 9, 2014 / 16:42

If these guys say there from where ever someone is always willing to argue lol. Hilarious! They know where they come from, Im just glad they didn't say they were from GTA. They actually care about their hometown that they grew up in. Just sayin, #Brendan Shanahan # Dave Bolland # Brendan Smith #Dave Clarkson

Me Likey LAX
January 9, 2014 / 21:38

So the question is... Why are those from Mimico labelled such as if it's separate from Toronto? What's so special about Mimico?

The simple answer in relation to all the sports figures mentioned in this article is that they all have one thing in common other then hockey.... Lacrosse

More to the point - The "Mimico Minor Lacrosse Association"

Lacrosse has a long history in Mimico. Toronto at one time had over 10 lacrosse clubs (4 in Etobicoke alone). Sadly today there are only 3 clubs left in Toronto. And yet the club in Mimico is over 100 years old & still going strong. A major part of that is the clubs proud history & that fact that it is even prouder of all it's successful alumni.

Red
February 19, 2014 / 17:46

Mimico pride is something you won't understand if you're not from the area. That being said, looking at it objectively, it's quite the shithole. Development has just started rebuilding the gross low-income city properties that plague Mimico's waterfront and an influx of higher-end dining establishments hope to capture some of the Bloor West charm. It's no Bloor West though, and tt's not going to be until all the riff-raff is cleared out. Don't hold your breath. Still a great place to raise a family in the right areas.

Don't say any of this to anyone from Mimico in person, though, as if they're not drunk enough to take offense to it and start a fight over it, rest assured one of their siblings or friends will be ready to step in.

Cortney
April 4, 2014 / 14:41

Hey Mike,

Long time no chat! I just came across your blog post as i have been searching for articles on "Mimico" bc I just bought a house in the area last night! We had also been looking in "new toronto" - I could never really figure out the difference in two areas.

Anyhoo - looks like we'll be somewhat neighbours! Hope to run into your along the lakeshore trail!

Best,
Cortney A.

Mario
May 27, 2014 / 21:53

Mimicobians are just wanna be Long Branchers.


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