Damian Goddard Fired for Hate, Avery Makes Sense

damian goddard firedI've never liked Sean Avery. He doesn't like us, either. Our dislike is mutual, but I believe in giving credit when credit is due.

Sean Avery's appearance in a PSA for the Human Rights Campaign in support of gay marriage in New York is both brave and commendable. He's a jerk, but here he is standing up for what's right.

Damian Goddard, Sportsnet host, disagrees with Sean Avery, and let his views known to the world via Twitter. Here's a couple of Damian Goddard tweets at @heydamo. Todd Reynolds, by the way, is a sports agent who called out New York Ranger Sean Avery for supporting gay marriage. He tweets as @uptownhockey.

heydamo1

heydamo2

Damian Goddard has since been fired by Sportsnet. Sportsnet, understandably, doesn't want their on-air personalities promoting discrimination.

Take it from the guy quoted on page 376 of Perspectives on Ideology, all citizens are equal under the law, regardless of skin colour, religion, culture or sexual preference. For once, I'm siding with Sean Avery.


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Dale

I agree 100%. Avery is a jerk all the time playing hockey but his comments should have relevance in the year 2011, not 1980 whereby gay people, even today, are frowned upon. Thanks, Sean, you opened a can of worms in a GOOD sense for a change.

May 11, 2011 @ 7:41 PM

Argie

Note to self: Dont EVER give an honest, fair opinion that doesn't square with the pansy left. Always stick to script unless of course you take a position that all in the media can embrace.

Gays are part of that special group of 4 you can't dare offend (except in Goddard's case, there wasn't anything offensive he tweeted).

Sad day for free speech.

May 11, 2011 @ 7:48 PM

Dale

@Argie - we live in 2010's not the 60's or 70's. Next thing you know you will be posting about minorities be it race, colour or creed.

OH I forgot you have already done that on this site with your comments.

I'm mid 50's in age I respect the life we have & understand freedom of speech, but not available for all to see. Goddard was crap anyway.

May 11, 2011 @ 8:04 PM

Argie

Dale,

I shouldn't expect a simpleton like yourself to understand why there's no such thing as 'gay' marriage. Its wrong just as polygamy and arrange marriages are.

You're so hateful.

May 11, 2011 @ 9:53 PM

Ajax Mike

@Argie

#1: What did Dale say that was hateful or untrue?

#2: Why do you believe that homosexuals should not have the same rights as heterosexuals? Legally, I mean. After all, religion has no place in public policy.

May 12, 2011 @ 1:42 AM

Sammi

Typical Toronto pretentious righteous crap. Mike...your post spews of it. Goddard stated an opinion and it doesn't fit with the left wing nuts view of the world...so let's fire him. Aren't you displaying the same intolerance and closed mindedness that you accuse him of?? Hypocrite!!

May 12, 2011 @ 5:39 AM

McNulty

There is no freedom of speech issue here. Goddard said something and he suffered the consequences of saying it.

We have the right to say what we want, but it doesn't absolve us of the ramifications of our actions.

I have the right to go on the radio and say I feel my boss is a jerk. I won't get to jail for it but I would probably be fired.

If a radio host (and it has happened) said he didn't like a certain race, he'd be fired. He can say what he wants but his employer doesn't have to keep him employed.

I think Goddard has every right to state what he thinks, however, he works in media and he should know that what he says is monitored.

May 12, 2011 @ 7:09 AM

Kharr

Damian claims to be a Roman Catholic - thus his comments about gays. As a good Roman Catholic how about he focus on criminal emotionally devastating Issues within his religion that run rampant - like the rape of young boys by men in poisitions of power and influence. This is an actual crime ....being gay and loving someone enough to commit fully to them in marriage isn't.

May 12, 2011 @ 7:33 AM

Cambo

I really don't understand people who say "Gay Marriage is wrong".

Seriously. What do you care? Does gay marriage hurt YOU in some way? Does polygamy hurt YOU in some way? Do arranged marriages hurt YOU in some way?

What you're saying DOES HURT other people. People you obviously have no regard for.

Bottom line, it doesn't directly affect me- I don't care. It's a free country. Let people be happy and move on to things that matter, like taxes and gas.

May 12, 2011 @ 8:24 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

Why would we deprive any human being from the right to marry the person he or she loves?

If my daughter is gay, and she falls in love and wants to marry her girlfriend one day, you can bet your life I'll be there. She deserves that.

May 12, 2011 @ 9:14 AM

Ray

It is the SAME as supporting that a black and a white, or a white and a Japanese shouldn't legally marry. And if you tweeted that as a public figure, a face of a network, then yes you should be fired.

May 12, 2011 @ 9:55 AM

Ray

@Argie

I am also a poor simpleton. Please explain to me why Tim and Scott being legally married has ANY affect on you and your superior existence?

Thanks.

May 12, 2011 @ 10:03 AM

hector

This is not about whether gay marriage is right or wrong...someone stated an opinion that we all have the right to express and he gets fired for it. What if one of us got fired for stating we were for gay marriage??? It's the same thing.

May 12, 2011 @ 11:23 AM

McNulty

@ Hector

We all have the right to express an opinion without the fear of going to jail or government intervention.

We don't have the right to say what we want and not have to suffer consequences from our jobs. If he tweeted that Sportsnet sucked, he would be fired. If he tweeted that a race should be banned from playing hockey, he would be fired.

What we say gets us into trouble all the time. As I said before, we have the right to speak our minds but we don't have the right to be absolved of the consequences of it.

May 12, 2011 @ 11:32 AM

CeeBar

@Argie: several athletes last week were severely taken to task for tweeting about their disgust around the celebrations of the death of bin Laden, and that the US had brought 9-11 on itself. Are right-wing knuckleheads like yourself equally offended by that (the US government being a "special group" (along with white supremacists and gun owners) that right-wingers don't like to see get criticised).

Damien (how appropriate a name!) will have lots of time on his hands now to figure out how his beloved John Paul II was beatified, while doing nothing about his priests committing HOMOSEXUAL rape on young boys.

May 12, 2011 @ 1:18 PM

J

Don't say anything bad against Jews.

Don't say anything bad against queers.

Don't say anything bad against Don Cherry.

Ya, public figures can't say anything that does not represent the views of the station. Bullshit!!

Sportsnet is such a hypocritical station. Look at the things Bobcat McGowan has said in the past.

McGowan is elite, Goddard was just a hack. Thats the difference.

May 12, 2011 @ 1:30 PM

D man

ya this is a confusing issue - lets face it - his views right or wrong were done on his own time (as i understand it) - the fact that sportsnet fired him for it - I am certain a court of law will hear a wrongful dismissal suit. - The bottom line this is not about his comments being discriminatory, society today has a 50/50 view of same sex marriages - The real issue is a person was fired for comments made on his personal twitter account, on a very grey social issue. The reason i say Grey is because Goddard might have been fired for being a Romain Catholic and for his religious beliefs and if you think a lawyer sitting in the board rooms of rogers wont bring that up - think again -

May 12, 2011 @ 2:09 PM

Cambo

D man and J

You guys are completely missing the point.

So, Damien should be allowed to say whatever he wants? Like "Blacks shouldn't ride on the same bus as whites" and then be allowed back on the air?

No.

When you work in a public-facing job such as radio or TV- you're recognized. Everywhere. Everything you say in public is associated to the station you work for. Everything you say and do is seen. Rogers has chosen not to be "seen" with his attitudes...and it is completely their right as it is their advertisers paying the bills, and their listeners listening.

Rogers was fully in it's right not to employ him any longer, and any court will (and numerous times, has) allowed the companies' actions in such cases in the past.

People need to learn, that you are accountable for your PUBLIC words both on and off record. Twitter/Facebook/Even this blog are public.

If Toronto Mike came on here and said "blacks shouldn't ride on the same bus as whites", would you expect his employer to continue to employ him? No. Because they don't want to be associated with his views.

You have every right to say what you want, however your Employer has every right to take actions to protect it's business and image.

May 12, 2011 @ 2:56 PM

DeeBee

So the message here is:
1)support same-sex marriage,
or
2)keep your mouth shut (at the risk of loosing your job)

Thanks goodness for free speech!

May 12, 2011 @ 2:57 PM

Anonymous

After reading most of the comments on here, I have to adjust all of you. The Bible says perfectly what needs to be said on this issue: "a man shall not ly with another man." Simply put. Now can we get on with what really happened to this guy (Damian Goddard) he is being persacuted for his faith in Jesus Christ.

May 12, 2011 @ 3:07 PM

hector

Another interesting point that is being missed here is the hypocrisy of Sean Avery......"I treat everyone the way I expect to be treated" Really??? Sean??? Is that what you do??? What bullshit!!!

May 12, 2011 @ 3:13 PM

elvis

@Anonymous - I don't believe homosexual men want to ly with another man...they just want to get married and fuck.

May 12, 2011 @ 3:44 PM

Ajax Mike

@Anonymous - http://youtube.com/watch?v=rHaVUjjH3El

So nice of you to pick and choose what parts of the bible are applicable to this day and age. It's all God's word, right?

May 12, 2011 @ 4:16 PM

james

I don't get how people are up in arms about this.
Number 1 - everyone has the right to free speech, but they also have to understand that what they say has repercussions.
2 - anyone quoting the bible, should understand that has no bearing on marriage and laws. If we followed the bible literally, we should kill our neighbors for working on sundays.
3 - hating on homosexuality is the new racism. All of you saying they don't have the right to get married, are showing the exact same type of racist thinking that many showed towards minorities in the 40's, 50's 60's, etc.

May 12, 2011 @ 4:16 PM

CeeBar

@anonymous: I'll be convinced of the "persecution" when Goddard tweets: "A man (priest) shall noy lie with another boy". Until then, he is a hypocrite.

@DeeBee: you obviously know nothing about public figures, and the organizations they represent (be it business, media or political). If Goddard took your advice and followed #2 (keep you mouth shut - and keep your religion to yourself), he'd still have a job. I hope he remains permanently unemployed just for being stupid and ignorant, never mind his archaic religious views.

May 12, 2011 @ 4:18 PM

james

@Anonymous - he is being persecuted for sharing an opinion not liked by his employer. Do you think if you went into your church and claimed you loved the devil they wouldn't kick you out?

May 12, 2011 @ 4:20 PM

MrFascination


I cannot believe the ignorance! What does the RC church (and most Christian churches for that matter) not believing in gay marriage have anything to do with issues like priest and little boys.

- EVERY faith/religeon has its problems. The Catholic church has over 1 billion members - you're going to have sick and people doing wrong when you include that number of people.

- The church chooses not to accept gay marriage.. So what? its their choice - just like its a gay persons choice to live with a same sex person!

- Please don't quote the bible James.. You have no idea how much of a fool you look.

May 12, 2011 @ 5:18 PM

Ajax Mike

@MrFascination - But Anon wasn't foolish for quoting? How's that work? Again, why do you get to pick and choose which of God's words you follow?

Oh wait, unless it's not REALLY His words, since it's been transcribed, translated and cherry-picked for generations by us mere mortals.

May 12, 2011 @ 5:38 PM

CeeBar

@MrFascination: it's the irony of it. The Catholic Church has EVERY right to its beliefs. However, those come into question when they don't allow their priests to have "normal" (heterosexual) sexual realtions, causing them to engage in "abnormal" (homosexual) relations, usually rape of young boys - and then do NOTHING about it (or worse, cover it up by hiding priests or paying people off with hush money).

This is what Goddard proudly adheres to, yet cannot stomach gay marriage. And that's why he is scum.

By the way, what is Goddard's background. He appears to be a person of colour (not just a tan) - do you think he might be a little sensitive to discrimination?

May 12, 2011 @ 6:19 PM

Argie

Wow, lets stick to the facts. Here there are: Me and a bunch of others dont believe there's such a thing as a same-sex marriage. After all, you can't call a dog a cat, can you?

We can all agree to disagree cant we? Lets deal with the real issue at hand and that is this: Goddard was fired for giving his opinion while others in the media who agreed with Avery and who have also given their opinion on air and in print are not losing their jobs. All I'm trying to say is that it seems a little hypocritical. Am I wrong?

If you disagree with Reynolds and Goddard, go ahead but how can any fair rational person call for his firing?

I realize some poeple here have some 'skin' in the game and they tend to get a little emotional and hyper sensitive but there's no need to knock the RC Church or anyone who believes in God. Where's this tolerance you always want the other side to show?

So many questions - questions that I doubt will be answered (without an insult).

May 12, 2011 @ 6:54 PM

andrew

This is becoming a debate of sex vs. religion. Doesn't anybody realize, religion, sex & politics should never be questioned as people have their own opinions?

It's a persons choice but Goddard was fired for making his choice PUBLIC. A bad mistake on his behalf. He may have known his days were numbered as he was terrible with his job anyway.

May 12, 2011 @ 7:08 PM

CeeBar

@Argie: you're free to believe what you wish. Goddard wasn't fired for speaking his mind. Here's the facts, though you may not like them: more people, in Canada, are tolerant of gay marriage than not (i.e people who listen to and watch Rogers products). People who supported Sean Avery are viewed as "tolerant" and not harmful to business. People like Goddard are viewed as "intolerant" and detrimental to business, which is why he was terminated. He can now go and work at SUN News or AM640, and he'll be fine to speak his mind. That's just the way it is - I din't make up the rules.

The RC Church comes into it only because Goddard lead with his chin - saying his views are shaped by his devout beliefs. Well, that's rich because that same church does nothing about paedophilic priests who attack SAME SEX youngsters. But I'm sure Damian (appropriate name!) has no problem with that, until his little boy suffers (hopefully not!).

May 12, 2011 @ 7:10 PM

Argie

CeeBee,

"Those are the rules?" That's your argument?? Are you kidding me?

As for the usual straw man pedophile shot, that's a whole other debate and discussion. I dont know of any Catholic who thought THAT was OK. Yeah, we still go to Church each week but no one I know endorses the behavior of a few perverted homosexual men pretending to priests. And yes I said homosexual because the vast majority of these attacks were on teenage boys by these said perverts. The number of children attacked were minuscule - thank God. Those are the facts, once again - I know the truth sometimes hurt. Deal with it.

The Church has dealt with these freaks and that is why no allegations of abuse that occurred in the past 20 years have been brought froth. Again, more facts.

May 12, 2011 @ 7:27 PM

Argie

That would be 'forth' not froth.

May 12, 2011 @ 7:32 PM

Kharr

@anonymous. There are so many religions practising on this earth because no one can agree on what the bible says. It's open to interpretation - yours and ours. Be kind and respect all interpretations otherwise you are showing hatred and bigotry. Ye who have not sinned (in any way) may cast the first stone. Time for those with faith in Jesus Christ to check their own moral compass. Amen

May 12, 2011 @ 7:39 PM

McNulty

If Goddard was atheist and tweeted that God was crap or Jesus is evil he would be fired for the same thing. And it would be just as fair for Rogers to do it.

This isn't about being left wing or right wing. It's about being stupid and Goddard was stupid.

And whomever is using the Catholic priests as an argument is being just as stupid as Goddard. It's irrelevant and makes you look like a fool.

I'm not a fan of the Catholic church but you can't paint them all with the pedophile brush. I'm sure Argie would hate a raping priest over a gay man any day.
And I really dislike Argie!

May 12, 2011 @ 7:50 PM

CeeBar

@Argie: my final word on the RC's. You're deluded if you think it's a few, and you just beatified the very Pope that was intent on covering it all up (and as a humanitarian, I thought he was a great man). It's NOT stupid to bring it up because homosexual paedophilic behaviour is the worst stigma to face the Church - the very behaviour Goddard decries due to his religious beliefs!

Goddard's agenda was clear. His other tweets took shots at the "liberal left". So this isn't just a man who was standing behind his beliefs (which is his absolute right). He's just another angry right-winger, who wants free speech as long as it's what he subscribes to.

Plus he's a supposed sportscaster, not Michael Coren, Charles Adler or some other right-wing cultural commentator. His firing was a BUSINESS decision - it's not good business to employ a bigot. End of story. And hopefully the end of Goddard's career.

May 12, 2011 @ 8:39 PM

Pat

Was that spot Avery's 'coming out' ??

May 12, 2011 @ 8:43 PM

Argie

Ceebar,

God, you're one confused individual. Stick to the topic at hand and seek council for your anger. Its not good for you.

May 12, 2011 @ 9:57 PM

Sammi

Like Pat.....I'm starting to wonder if this ad is Avery's 'coming out'.

May 12, 2011 @ 10:22 PM

Kharr

@Argie - did you use Gods name in vain in your last post? I'm getting confused.
Read this piece from a National newspaper today.

Human rights for homosexuals is not a "trend" or a
liberal bias, it is the next issue in a long line of human rights
development following the abolition of slavery, desegregation, the
suffragette movement and many others. People will look back on these
so-called 'traditional values' perspectives on marriage the same way
we will look back on George Wallace standing in the schoolhouse door
in Alabama. Its bigotry and intolerance and its astounding that it
passes for legitimate religious belief.

May 12, 2011 @ 10:31 PM

Kharr

@pat @sammi re your Avery coming out comments - have you ever heard this famous quote:

Great people talk about great ideas; average people talk about average ideas; small people talk about other people.

May 13, 2011 @ 4:20 AM

Pat

It's a joke, Kharr.

May 13, 2011 @ 6:48 AM

Sammi

You have completely missed the point and misused the quote, Kharr.

May 13, 2011 @ 7:16 AM

MrFascination


Lets Just Become A Accept All Country.. Don't Stick To Your Beliefs Because Hey You Might Hurt Someone's Feelings.. Don't Stand Up For What You Believe Or What You Were Taught Because Somewhere Along The Line It May Have Been Changed...

You People Are A Joke!

The Fact Remains Someone Got Fired For Stating Something He Believe It.. It Doesn't Matter if You Agree Or Disagree 0 Freedom Of Speech.

---- HERE'S THE QUESTION ---
What Would Have Happened If Sean Avery Would Have Been Fired By The Rangers For Stating He Agrees With Same Sex Marriage?

Could You IMAGINE The Uprise!!!!!!!

May 13, 2011 @ 8:55 AM

Cambo

@MrFacination

So, your assumption is you should be able to say what you want- and the employer HAS to employ you no matter what???

No one is disregarding his freedom of speech.

What people are saying, is that the company reserves the right to protect it's brand if it deems your words or actions are potentially harmful.

Yes, you have freedom of speech. But you must know that there could be repercussions for your speech.

Rogers made the right move here. They do NOT want there hosts to get into this debate- in as much as abortion or any other contentious issue. They are not in that business.

May 13, 2011 @ 9:25 AM

Jacob

@MrFascination
The difference in the two stances is that once is inclusionary, and the other is exclusionary.

You're much less likely to be fired for saying "I accept other people's rights"... unless you're working for fundies, of course.

May 13, 2011 @ 10:03 AM

MrFascination


Cambo - So your employer has the right to control what you say EVEN if it has nothing to do with your job? Or could even affect your job.

So why don't the Rangers fire Avery for saying he supports gay marriage? They should't want their employees getting involved in contentious issues.

DOUBLE STANDARD my friend!

May 13, 2011 @ 10:04 AM

Cambo

@MrFacination

They're not controlling what he says. You can say whatever you want- however your employer has a right to protect their brand and their image. This is more so the case in radio and TV. It is a PUBLIC FACING position. Mr. Goddard used his corporate account to post a personal view. Rogers doesn't care what side of the coin he's on. It's the fact that he aired it when it wasn't warranted. It's not a place where the company wants to go. The same holds true for discussing abortion or euthanasia. The company simply does not want to go down those roads.

And yes, what you say in public CAN affect your job.
Companies now are routinely using Facebook and Twitter to research their candidates for jobs; why? Because IT IS IN THE PUBLIC REALM. And they get a picture of the person they are potentially hiring.

May 13, 2011 @ 10:21 AM

Scared_CDN

Oxford defines bigotry as "intolerance for those who hold different opinions from oneself" - remind me who the bigots are again? I can see the Gulag camps opening in Nunavut very soon when Cambo becomes PM.

May 13, 2011 @ 10:21 AM

Cambo

...but please...

Don't equate being fired from a job as persecution of "Freedom of Speech". They are completely different things.

May 13, 2011 @ 10:44 AM

MrFascination


So because you don't believe in gay marriage your a bigot?

You fire someone for expressing an opinion in country of free speech (which the TV station always want to promote) that makes you a hypocrite.

It doesn't matter what side of the debate you stand - the firing of the Damian was wrong!

Local radio personality (which is gay) agrees that the firing by Rogers was wrong in every way.

May 13, 2011 @ 10:53 AM

Cambo

I never said anything about bigotry. I never said HE, you or anyone else was a bigot. I'm certainly not. To me, if two people want to get married- more power to you. Not my preference, but this isn't about ME.

The issue is MUCH deeper than that.

It's an issue Rogers did not want discussed. It's the wrong time, wrong format, wrong image for what Sportsnet is.

May 13, 2011 @ 11:00 AM

Ajax Mike

Just one note Cambo, is there any indication that the Twitter account used by Goddard was in fact a corporate account? Looks to me like it's his personal one.

Regardless, Cambo has it right. Anything you do in public (which Twitter is) can affect your job. If Goddard put up pictures of himself in a gay orgy, or wearing KKK garb, or punting kittens, the result would have been the same.

Public figures have to be careful of their private opinions. That's just the reality of the situation.

May 13, 2011 @ 11:20 AM

Ray

If you call for restricting legal access to something (marriage) that is available to all, based on sexual orientation then YES YOU ARE A BIGOT! Deal with it. If you are going to take a stance like that, deal with what comes with it, which is being classified as a bigot.

May 13, 2011 @ 11:27 AM

Irvine

@Argie

Since when does being pro gay marriage equate to being "left wing". I support gay marriage & see no issue with it and I definitely would be considered "right wing".

You simply lack the facilities in your cranium to understand that there are "fiscal conservatives" and "social conservatives". A fiscal conservative is a person that demands the proper stewardship of money. A "social conservative" is a redneck backwater bigoted hick that uses the generic term "support for family values" as a banner to mask over their real agenda.

Given the macho nature of hockey (there are no openly gay players) Avery's willingness to stand up proves he's a dude with some real balls and character.

May 13, 2011 @ 11:47 AM

CeeBar

@Irvine: very well put. I'm a fiscal conservative too, and even Harper has seen the light in that he will stay away from socially conservative issues (he says).

I don't know why Argie et al don't get that this is not a free-speech issue. He worked for SportsNet. If he became a social commentator on SUN News or AM640, he'd be free to offer this view. Even what you do ON AIR comes under scrutiny. If there's a contentious anti-Israel protest, you don't send a Jewish reporter to cover it. On CTV News, they don't send Alicia Markson to cover a story on police misconduct because her husband is a police lawyer.

This has NOTHING to do with freedom of speech or pro-gay/anti-gay. It's about the media, its viewers and listeners, advertisers - basically business. If Goddard joined SUN News today, he'd be a hero because that's the sort of opinion they're looking for. Rogers SportsNet isn't.

May 13, 2011 @ 2:46 PM

Argie

There ya go folks, the pro-gay marriage side now has both Sean Avery and Irvine. What a ringing endorsement. Well at least he didn't slam Toronto or Central Canada in his rather lengthy post.

Like I posted earlier no point in debating the whole question as to whether Adam and Steve can walk down the ailse or not as there's no convincing the illogical, intolerant pro-gay side.

The more important issue is that someone has been axed for voicing their opinion on a subject. That's all....

May 13, 2011 @ 6:57 PM

Imac

I know I'm late to this party, but after reading the comments I'm confused. Those defending the firing are saying that Rogers can fire him because his statement, based on his beliefs, hurts the Rogers brand and image. Does this mean companies would be justified in firing Muslims following the WTC attacks, particularly if said Muslims were on air personalities? Afterall, if CBC had a Muslim anchor in the aftermath of the attacks, it certainly would have hurt the CBC brand.

May 14, 2011 @ 9:57 PM

Cambo

@Imac

You're comparing completely different, not even remotely close scenarios.

One was murder.

The other is a right that is written into the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in that all people are treated equally under the law.

A ban on Same Sex Marriage would not have survived a Supreme Court challenge.

Rogers likely has many employees who are or support SSM, or their advertisers do.

As mentioned MANY times in the past. Goddard has the right to say what he wants. However Rogers also has the right not to employ him based on those beliefs. And no, that's not "persecution". He can bring a "wrongful dismissal" suit against Rogers, however people have tried this in the past and failed.

Is it also OK for Goddard to pronounce on the air (or in Tweets which are public) that he supports the KKK? Or he believes women should have the right to vote? Should Rogers still employ him because of "Freedom of Speech"?

Hogwash. Rogers has a right to protect their business as much as Goddard has a right to say what he wants.

Sportsnet is NOT in the social commentary business.

May 15, 2011 @ 12:26 PM

Cambo

...that should say "NOT have the right to vote"...

May 15, 2011 @ 12:29 PM

Irvine

LOL, yes Argie. Funny, you're a guy that is part of a union but hates them. While you sit here and spout off about rights, etc, why not challenge your own Union? Next meeting walk in and tell 'em how it is

But you won't dude. Because you're a wuss that's a big mouth behind a so called anonymous moniker online. Old fat man that's all talk & no action.

May 15, 2011 @ 3:36 PM

lisa

uhm "free" speech does NOT mean you can say whatever you want when ever you want. In Canada the Charter of Rights and Freedoms limits all rights, right at the outset "subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society." That's why you can't make comments promoting hate crimes etc. We, as a society, decided that certain "speech" is NOT worthy of protection.

May 15, 2011 @ 11:28 PM

Raven

@Imac:

"Does this mean companies would be justified in firing Muslims following the WTC attacks, particularly if said Muslims were on air personalities? Afterall, if CBC had a Muslim anchor in the aftermath of the attacks, it certainly would have hurt the CBC brand."

So, you're saying that all Muslims automatically believe in Al Quieda(sp), simply because they're Muslim? And as such, should not hold on-air positions in the media?

I hope you realize A)what a slippery slope this is, and B)How foolish it makes you appear.

May 16, 2011 @ 2:08 PM

Argie

Irv,

Actually I'm not part of union any longer. Yes, they're crap and they tend to breed laziness and an overall lack of initiative and ambition.

I was fortunate enough to be offered a better job with more money and no union. I was lucky, what can I say?

As for being fat, now you're getting personal. I guess I'm fat if you consider 12 percent bodyfat fat. Is it?

May 16, 2011 @ 6:41 PM

Cambo

@Irvine and Argie

Man, you two sound like an old married couple.

May 16, 2011 @ 8:49 PM

Ugh

Did he go to jail for what he said? No? Then his right to free speech wasn't denied.

June 2, 2011 @ 9:43 PM

Hawky

Goddard brought religion and his stance against gay marriage to a personal twitter account. No problem. But the day he posted it, he had a picture of himself on the Sportsnet set with the Sportsnet logo. That was a huge and now costly mistake.

July 8, 2011 @ 6:08 PM

Chris Tavica

Unbelievable commentary. "Ugh"'s comment is particularly moronic. Lisa, what Goddard said was by no means a "hate crime", look it up. What Rogers did was categorically illegal, and an infringement on Goddard's human rights to self-expression and religion, and they will lose in court.

July 19, 2011 @ 11:29 PM

TT

Same-sex marriage is not like people of different races getting married. There is nothing anomalous in that. There is in homosexual behavior. If you don't believe that, take a first year biology course. No government endorsement of anomalous behavior! If there are no moral grounds for objecting to homosexual behavior, then there are no moral grounds against pederasts (men who want consensual sex with boys, they just want freedom to be who they are), and maybe we could give people who practice bestiality tax write-offs for pet food. Sounds crazy, I know, but so did the idea of same-sex marriage just a few years ago.

November 16, 2011 @ 10:56 AM

TT

And based on the caption for this thread, simply stating that you believe marriage should be between a man and a woman constitutes 'hate'. Hmmm, kinda reminds me of Isaiah 5:20.

November 16, 2011 @ 11:03 AM

Steerpike

TT, you can't HAVE consensual sex with 'a boy' of that 'boy' is under the age of consent. That's what 'age of consent' MEANS, idiot. The difference between pederasts who RAPE children under the age of consent and men who have consensual sex with men is the difference between SEX and RAPE. I hope you the difference between SEX and RAPE or I don't have high hopes for your continued liberty of the safety of the people around you.

November 17, 2011 @ 11:41 AM

Steerpike

Oh and BTW, the reason this douche was fired was NOT just because of his idiot tweet: the company has a fat file on his previous embarassing infractions which they are going to bring into the open if he makes any more fuss or plays the martyr too much. Watch this space for his imminent humiliation. He didn't sue for wrongful diomissal because A: he knows he's lose and look like even more of a fool and B: he was just angling for a spiffy new job with scum like NOM.

November 17, 2011 @ 11:44 AM

Anonymous

Hi : my name is Vito. I think it is wrong that Goddard got fired. Since when is a person responsible to their employer for something they did at home? There is no more freedom of speech in Cansda

February 12, 2012 @ 11:09 AM

carmen carolina

I think Canada should pass a bill declaring itself to be the first 100% Gay Country.
All heterosexuals will receive a monthly pay check from the government to move out and live abroad.
The ones that decided to stay should be confined to special aereas.
Incest should be legallized as well.
Recently there was a case In Brazil where twin brothers were sued because they performed a sex scene together in a porno movie.

September 6, 2012 @ 10:53 PM

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