102.1 The Edge Top 200 Of All Time Countdown Voting Rigged

radioRemember Labour Day weekend when 102.1 the Edge counted down the Top 200 songs of the 90's? In this neck of the woods, we had plenty of issues with how they came up with those 200 songs. I ended up posting the list I thought CFNY / 102.1 the Edge should have come up with.

102.1 the Edge is at it again, putting together the Top 200 songs of all-time. Once again they're letting fans vote, but there's a not-so-small detail you should know. Here's @mondoville tweeting about it.

mondoville

That's right, 102.1 the Edge actually lists 200 songs and let's you vote for your favourites. AT the very, very end, there's an option called "other" with a small text field beside it. If you want to vote outside their top 200, you can submit one song at a time. In other words, they've picked the top 200 and are just looking for the final order.

cfny

I'm just fascinated they've deemed Oasis' "Live Forever" worthy of Top 200 of all-time recognition, when it wasn't worthy of Top 200 of the 90s recognition.


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Carrie

How do you compile an "all time" list of 200 songs, with only just over 100 artists represented?

I say we all vote for one of the more questionable songs on the list (and there are MANY), and make 'em look like fools when it's unveiled.

This whole thing is ridiculous.

October 1, 2009 / 14:39

Hector

Would you expect anything different from the clowns that are running the place now??

October 1, 2009 / 14:55

Buffaloboymike

The Spirit of the Radio is just legend now...CFNY is no more just another faceless "new rock" station with no personality or willingness to push the envelope

October 1, 2009 / 15:23

Chris

Where are the Rainbow Butt Monkeys?

Or the Sex Pistols? Or New Order (or Joy Division)? The Smiths? Jesus and Mary Chain? Ned's Atomic Dustbin? Public Enemy?

Thank God Big Wreck and the Tea Party are though..... ;)

October 1, 2009 / 15:26

Ryan

That's like Q doing a best "rock" list and omitting Led Zeppelin or The Beatles.

What a farce.

October 1, 2009 / 15:37

Buffaloboymike

New Order is on there didnt you see them disguised as Orgy?
The Breeders

October 1, 2009 / 15:45

Buffaloboymike

I sent this email to Don Mitchell music director
Don, this top 200 of all time list sucks
if you guys cant get it right stop doing lists
Where are James, The Smiths, one song by the Cure, New ORder oh wait I see them disguised as Orgy....kick Orgy off and put New Order in
The Breeders who should have made the 90's list but didnt
Take off Big Wreck and Nickelback, half the Linkin Park and Green Day Songs
and get The Sex Pistols on the list God Save the Queen and Anarchy in the UK
The Cure should have 4 songs Friday Im In Love, Just Like Heaven, In Between Days and Love Song at the very least not to mention Love Cats and Close to Me and Fascination Street.
Who is making up these lists?
Total trash that a station that has prided themselves on diversity and being different could come out with a list of only 100 artists
INXS was another band that made the list...did KICK not sell enough copies to warrent putting them on here?
Duran Duran
Neds Atomic Dustbin
You put a Spoonman by a band named Black Hole Sun are you kidding me? tell me that was a typo.
I have listened for 20 years now, I am within an eyelash of listening no more
Mike McCoulf
aka Buffalo Boy
www.buffaloboymike.com

October 1, 2009 / 15:53

Chris

Nice call on the Breeders. And while REM clearly went south after Document, are you kidding me 1 song, yet there's 5 STP songs.

Man I'm glad 102.1 is dead to me. It's like running into someone you once knew, someone who you had no doubt would "make it" and yet somehow there they are, on the corner asking for change.

October 1, 2009 / 15:54

Hector

They basically put their playlist up there and want people to change the order of what they play all the time.

What a joke.

October 1, 2009 / 16:11

Anone

Hate to tell you this, but "voting" in radio has NEVER existed. EVERY station says "call in with your vote"...but in reality, do you think they're going to get enough response to actually make it worth while? Do you think someone is actually going to sit there and tally all the votes? 90% of the time, lists like this are done internally, by the staff and music directors.It's the same thing with "be caller 9 right now!!!" It's a crap shoot. The jocks take the most lively/energetic person who calls and put them on air.You may be the first, 10th, or 100th- and you'll never know. It's all part of the magic.

October 1, 2009 / 16:45

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Anone

Next thing you'll tell me is that there is no Santa Claus.

October 1, 2009 / 16:54

jason | GetYourOJ.com

@Hector

Clearly he does, and it's quite comical. Hey, it keeps me coming back. Snicker.

October 1, 2009 / 18:02

CQ

So what?
Isn't this how they generated their previous Top 200 lists? Who says that they won't switch in a couple of other picks, particularly from the current year - when they're trying to draw a younger audience?

BTW, are other stations not allowed to make their lists?

October 1, 2009 / 18:08

Chris

re CQ.

Sure they are. I don't anyone is debating that. But to call the it the Top 200 of All-time is misleading. They should call their list "The Top 200 songs of all time that we play, while ignoring a lot of the rocking beats that used to make us distinct."

October 1, 2009 / 18:51

Chris

clearly that should say don't think anyone

October 1, 2009 / 18:52

CQ

I just grown a little bored with dwelling about The Edge. Good (imaginary) Money would pay to hear of corresponding efforts from the CHUMfm's, CHFI's, and EZ-Rock's of the marketplace. :)

October 1, 2009 / 19:24

Joanne

Are there exactly 200 songs on the list?

A list of say 1000 songs might identify the best 200.

And I wonder how many "Other" entries they get? Can we all coordinate to stuff the ballot box? (Let's do it... I'm lookin' at you torontomike!)

October 1, 2009 / 21:12

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Joanne, I think @Anone is right. Stuffing the ballot box won't make a difference. They're going to do what they want to do to serve their agenda. They don't care about us.

This is a world where Neverending White Lights gets a spot and The Ramones don't. This isn't our world anymore.

October 1, 2009 / 21:35

Anone

@TorontoMike

It's not that they don't care about you, it's that they have a format, and a core audience. They're going to cater to their current core- every Station does. If they start playing stuff that's outside of their core, they run the risk of losing their current core- and in a world where listeners = advertisers = revenue, they have to stick to what makes the most money. Radio in the 2000's caters to their advertisers to survive. They have to play what the majority of their target listeners tend to listen to. These are the same listeners that spend the most money.

October 2, 2009 / 09:01

papa_rocker

Going through the list, it looks like the Top 200 of the 90s and 00s.

Bush gets 3 songs and the Clash only 2? At least I can guarantee you that in 20 years, radio will still play those 2 Clash songs in regular rotation and they will play ZERO Bush songs.

October 2, 2009 / 09:15

Chris

Anone.

But radio is big trouble. Maybe they have their model all fucked up. Radio stations have lost their identity because they've bleed the personality out of their stations, in terms of music anyway, and in terms the DJs.

October 2, 2009 / 09:16

Doug

December 31st 1989, CFNY had a countdown for the top 102 songs of the 80's. The winner was "How Soon Is Now" by the Smiths.
I'm just sayin'.....

October 2, 2009 / 09:36

Anone

@Chris

I don't disagree with you at all. Sadly, the heart of radio is gone. So is the creativity, and the passion. It's a business now. Once the bean counters and suits get their hands on it (as with any business)...the model is finished.

October 2, 2009 / 10:08

Jessie

Doesn't seem to me that they even looked at the charts when deriving this list. It's definitely a marketing bit. I have to agree with Anone!

October 2, 2009 / 10:09

McNulty

Why bother with the station anymore?

Since Bookie's departure, I have stopped listening in the afternoons. I find Fred to be grating.
The list is bogus as is the "focus groups" and how they determine the playlist.

They get the listeners because there is nowhere else to go. Their "list" is a method they will use to justify their playlists and say, "That's who was voted for!"

After the top 200 of the 90s, I officially gave up. Their tops 200 of alltime will be the same list. Turn off the station.

I was a defender for a while, but now I just can't find anything to defend.

October 2, 2009 / 10:35

Race_Coach

@Anone

Sure, stations direct their energy to the "core" audience. So, what is "core"? the kid who listens for 15 minutes per day? or the person who listens for 2+ hours per day (and may have been dialed in for the past 10 years). Each is "one" listener.

Anyway, if the station is pandering to their listeners (which, I agree they must do), then why not give the listeners the opportunity to voice their votes without providing a pigeon-holed list of entries? I still don't see the justification of provide a list of 200 songs that are essentially being sequenced.

October 2, 2009 / 20:09

Buffaloboymike

Just thought I would share the response I got from the email I sent to Don Mitchell....Mike you were right I got the "Coorporate" Run around bullshit answer:
"Hey Mike.
Songs on the list are the top researched within the last five years.

Like other songs? Type them in the box provided at the bottom of the page.

dm"

Researched within the last five years? How does that represent the opinions of your listeners?

October 4, 2009 / 23:10


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