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Sam in Pickering

With nobody "working", it's going to be quiet here today.

March 25, 2016 @ 9:33 AM

Rob J

Ok, where's Cheryl?
And TM, are you recording with Elvis today?

March 25, 2016 @ 9:45 AM

aard V. ark

A society that keeps cures a secret so they can sell medications for huge profits is not a real society but a mental asylum.

March 25, 2016 @ 9:53 AM

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@Rob J

The plan was for the entire Elvis clan to visit this morning and for us to record episode 165.

But, a non-life-threatening medical emergency has me currently wearing the newborn and watching the toddler while my wife has surgery. So I had to cancel our big plans.

She should be home tonight, though.... and Elvis and I might record Sunday.

March 25, 2016 @ 9:57 AM

Aaron

What's with all the big celebrity deaths?

Bowie, Rickman, Shandling... these are the greats.

March 25, 2016 @ 10:16 AM

Cheryl

I'm here. Okay, so I'm not first. My Habs lost, but my Coyotes won. At least my Coyotes won and my Nets also won. Anyway, 10 days until opening day. That's a great thing.

March 25, 2016 @ 10:31 AM

The Voice of Reason

Thirty billion dollar deficit spending is unacceptable for one year. Where has government responsibility gone???

March 25, 2016 @ 11:19 AM

Collingwood Dave

@ Mike I know you hated Rob Ford, but not even a candolence to his wife and kids? Shame on you...

March 25, 2016 @ 11:41 AM

Ryan G

Speaking of Rickman, I just re watched one of my fave indie films featuring him, albeit with a relatively small role. Regardless, If you want to check out something a little different with fantastic performances, watch Shadow of The Vampire, based on the making of the classic silent film Nosferatu. It's an indie low budget dark comedy, with John Malkovich as the director Murnau. But the stand out is the Max Schreck character who plays the vampire - Willem Dafoe in this role is brilliant. Apparently Schreck was one of the first method actors at the dawn of filmmaking, and during the making of Nosferatu he stayed completely in character while cameras weren't rolling, even going so far as to drink blood and other vampire-like shenanigans. It's artistic, creepy and fun all at the same time.

March 25, 2016 @ 11:43 AM

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@Collingwood Dave

Please. When Layton passed away, I didn't write a condolence to his wife and kids. In fact, when have I ever done that?

March 25, 2016 @ 11:52 AM

Douglas

Even I'll admit that Duran Duran was pretty good when they first hit the "new wave" scene. I'm posting this because the last paragraph in the article will, er...strike a chord.

Not necessarily referring to Duran Duran, but is it any wonder why so much of the music of yesteryear has such lasting power?

Let's hear it for Andy Warhol's "15-minutes" of fame, and David Lee Roth was spot-on back in the day: "Here today, gone later today."

If nothing else, read that last paragraph.

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/music/2016/03/24/duran-duran-hits-the-road-in-a-buick-rather-than-a-ferrari.html

March 25, 2016 @ 11:54 AM

Jes Sui....somebody

Anybody ever say Jes Sui Congo? Nah...ever hear of Belgian chocolate? Sure you have. Ever hear of the Belgian Congo? Maybe, eh? What about King Leopold? What if I told you King Leopold and his army, his industrialists, his missionaries, Terrorized the Congo to the tune of 10 million dead.

March 25, 2016 @ 1:15 PM

Rob J

@ Collingwood Dave
Mrs. Ford and kids likely don't follow TM on social media
@TM
I wish your wife a speedy recovery and that she's in good hands!

March 25, 2016 @ 1:29 PM

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@Rob J

This surgery was going to happen yesterday afternoon, but was pushed to today at 8am.

So she spent the night in the hospital as to not lose her spot, but here it is 2pm and she's still waiting. I'm hoping it happens in the next two hours so she can spend tonight at home.

March 25, 2016 @ 1:47 PM

Jes Sui...somebody

So now, maybe, one can replace references to Hitler with King Leopold...and there will have to be a new Godwin's Law for online arguments. As soon as somebody brings up King Leopold in an argument...it means...

March 25, 2016 @ 2:12 PM

Lyle Lanley

@Collingwood Dave

As a lurker here for at least a decade I assure you Toronto Mike doesn't offer condolences to spouses and children of celebrities who die. In fact, I just found his post when Jack Layton died and he got the same synopsis as Ford.

As a lurker, I've read many entries about Toronto Mike'd distaste for Ford so kudos for him for showing some restraint this week.

Unrelated: the Elvis episodes of Toronto Mike'd are highly underrated.

March 25, 2016 @ 2:15 PM

Anonymous

how about those Raptors?
1 game behind the Cavs for 1st.
about to set another seasonal best for most wins.

and I remain pretty much indifferent to their efforts, but,.......

live and die for Maple Leafs, TFC, the Rock, the Argos and the Blue Jays.

March 25, 2016 @ 3:00 PM

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Some people don't like basketball. That's cool. I have no interest in golf and only watch playoff football. To each his own.

Raps fans, like me, don't care much about the regular season this season. It's all about the playoffs. Here's something I wrote on the subject: http://www.torontomike.com/2016/02/why_raptors_fans_are_showing_restr.html

March 25, 2016 @ 3:07 PM

Another Steve

that 3:00 anonymous post was mine, sorry, not trying to troll.

the “leadoff man” ....
I'm torn.

I see baseball as 9 innings, and that's how many I played, when I use to play.

When I coached baseball, I emphasized that there is a leadoff hitter for every inning.
It's an important skill, it requires discipline, patience and focus.

Today's players, young & old, I think, are too selfish.

The role of the leadoff hitter is unappreciated, regardless of whether you lean towards the traditional 1st batter of the game as the true lead-off man; or like myself, we believe in a leadoff of hitter for each cycle of batters each inning.

The responsibility remains the same.

"Set the table". Get on base, but work the pitch count, get to 3-2.
Foul a couple off. Raise the pitch count, tire the arm, give the next hitter a good look at the pitcher's stuff.
Don't chase a bad pitch.
When you get on base, draw the throw to 1st, "let's see his pick-off move".
Then, ..... steal 2nd!

It was about learning. Working as a team. Every inning. Every new pitcher.
Every practice, we worked on these fundamentals.

As a player, I had coaches who really stressed, FUN-damentals, and made practice FUN. I maintain that mantra in coaching other sports, FUN-damentals.

Suffice to say, I really hold an appreciation for nuances of various sports.

It concerns me that so many pro-ball players can't lead-off.
They chase bad pitches. The free-swingers! No patience. No discipline.
The reluctance to, "take-a-walk".

And then there's the players who will won't lead-off. They chase bad pitches.
The free-swingers! No patience. No discipline.
The reluctance to, "take-a-walk".

As I see it, the only thing I can see from athletes that can't or won't execute a certain skill set is selfishness.

March 25, 2016 @ 3:10 PM

Another Steve

@TM
Indeed, the playoffs and the extra money for owners, soon every team in every pro sport in Canada and the US will qualify for the playoffs.

it's like participation ribbons, thanks for coming out, but now, let's get serious.

Maybe then we will see a chunk of meaningless regular season games being cut back.

March 25, 2016 @ 3:17 PM

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@Another Steve

Aye, but this spring, the Raptors and Marlies are rare specimens: Two Canadian-based franchises that actually made the playoffs.

March 25, 2016 @ 3:29 PM

dale

Agree Another Steve. Bandwagon jumpers are there for the Thrill of of it all. Marlies & Raptors are having great seasons no doubt. I enjoy watching sports & yes I became a Raptor fan after being coursed by 1 of my sons.
Hope Marlies & Raptors do well in their playoffs, but most of the best Marlies players are playing for the Leafs now & on a good run winning 5 of 7 games.

I also coached BBall for many years & same ol saying to leadoff hitter "just get on base any way U can". There is strategies to make things happen & until you experience it you may not understand, regardless of any sport.

Happy Easter to all


March 25, 2016 @ 4:38 PM

fourteen

Dear Elvis: how many boos?

March 25, 2016 @ 6:34 PM

Rick C in Oakville

@ The Voice of Reason. Having run a small business, paid off my mortgage when interest rates were 11-12%, this smoke and mirrors bull shit now being used called Debt to GDP ratio is going to be a monstrous burden on my kids and future grand kids. The Liberals provincially and federal only mention deficits, and not the real worry of the debt they have been adding on. No one ever talks about ever retiring this. Interest may be low today, but there will be a point it will need to rise, and the costs to service this debt will be the largest expenditure, ahead of health care and education.
Great legacy we will be leaving for our future generations.

March 25, 2016 @ 10:16 PM

Irv

@Voice of Reason/Rick C

To predicate, I am absolutely against Trudeau running a deficit (for any reason). But I'd like to point out the previous government added more than $150 billion to the debt tally sheet. AND they did it with a booming Western Canadian economy. And the Alberta PC's were no better. We had a 10 year old boom which was so "hot" at times there was virtually zero unemployment. Yet, after the longest fossil fuel boom in human history somehow the Alberta government ended up 'broke'.

The biggest mistake the Harper gov made was lowering the GST. They claim they did so to stimulate the economy and get people spending. I call bullshit. Lower taxes don't get people to spend more money. A booming economy does. That's why Albertan's have such a heavy debt load. It had nothing to do with taxes & everything to do with knowing they could get a job paying 80K a year simply because they had a pulse.

The government of Canada needs to focus on building real wealth creation (think technology). Let the oil & gas revenues be secondary and "gravy". And I say that as a guy who made a whole shit load of money off the O&G business. And I'm pro pipeline and pro oil. But having lived in Alberta on and off since 1979, I know better than to put all my eggs in one basket. You learn to prepare for rough times. Unfortunately, the Harper, Stelmach, Redford, Prentice & Notley government imagined the magic oil goose would lay golden eggs forever. Nothing lasts forever. The Alberta economy is like Alberta weather. It's almost always sunny, but when the storm comes you run like hell for cover. Or you (and your car) get battered by hail.

Debt is the enemy. It's a drag on the system. And Trudeau is an idiot to add to the debt load of this country. But Harper was too. He cut taxes when he should have left them the same UNTIL the debt was paid off. If you want to pay off your own personal debt, you don't take a pay cut. You get a second job.

But the real leech of public funds in this country is health care. It's not about privatizing it either. It's about getting people to live a healthy life. But you can't tell the voters the "truth". I mean they're "entitled" to live how they want & have all their costs covered.

Anyway, for the TL:DR crowd, blaming Trudeau for debt is bullshit. Harper was no better. Just another moron politician. Perhaps we need a law to arrest politicians & their supporters.

March 25, 2016 @ 11:19 PM

Cheryl

My Suns lost. That was no good at all but they lost. Hopefully my Habs and Coyotes win tonight. they have to. Now nine days until opening day. Can't wait. Happy Easter, Guys, but I don't believe in the Easter Bunny.

March 26, 2016 @ 6:03 AM

b12

Re Irv @ 23:19 &
...But the real leech of public funds in this country is health care. It's not about privatizing it either. It's about getting people to live a healthy life....

There's a lot of truth to this. People should learn to read the labels on their food and educate themselves about what certain things do to the body. The body is an organism. Organisms are affected by chemical concoctions.

March 26, 2016 @ 8:47 AM

chapel of love

Please tell me there is no video of the great true conservative Christian moral leader Ted Cruz having an affair...I don't think I could take all the slime and slithering...

March 26, 2016 @ 8:51 AM

Irv

@B12

I think the government could play a role promoting good health and be proactive about it. Community center's should become "health" centers where exercise is low cost or free. And those places should have food label & cooking courses. I'd like to see free courses on how to cook on the cheap. I eat oatmeal every day for breakfast. The 5 lb bag was $6.99. By trial and error I learned to liven the food up. That's one example of a cheap, healthy & quick breakfast that's healthy. The whole bag costs 50 cents more than 1 single breakfast at McDonalds.

And why not use a tax break system to get companies to open their own cafeteria's and sell healthy food. Over a decade ago, I worked for Manulife Financial in Waterloo. They had a cafeteria which sold healthy food at cost for staff. It meant a few bucks got you a healthy lunch versus a burger & fries.

I think the problem with our society is we always present these grand ideas to get fit. Want to get in shape? Get up at 5 AM, run uphill for 60 minutes & then eat oatmeal. But good health is a lifestyle. By eating well, biking & walking (when you can) you will be fit.

In 2017 the government is going to allow free access to National Parks. I am a resident of one and I admit it concerns me because it's busy as fuck on weekends. But, on the flip side what a great way to promote health. Why can't Ontario do such things with campgrounds/day areas like the Elora Gorge. The cost of camping & day use park passes is insanity.

We've lost the "war on fat". We spend too much time telling people what they shouldn't do instead of what they should do. And we make it prohibitively expensive for the average family to get out and be healthy.

The answer to good healthy is often as simple as cooking & walking.

March 26, 2016 @ 12:51 PM

Hello

Has anyone noticed what is happening to Yonge St? All those old style brick buildings are being boarded up for demolition only to be replaced by generic condos with stores on the lower level. It is happening at Bloor/Yonge, across the library & now see it all the way into North York.

What a sad state of architecture to build such bland buildings.

Take your photos now.

March 26, 2016 @ 4:41 PM

MorganTheOrgan

Hello-oooo, ladies....

March 26, 2016 @ 7:52 PM

Toneman The Leaf Fan

Jeez, nobody in here tonight? Maybe I should get a life....

March 26, 2016 @ 8:24 PM

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@Toneman The Leaf Fan

Everybody's watching the Raps vs. Pelicans.

March 26, 2016 @ 8:27 PM

Toneman The Leaf Fan

@TM Looks like the Raps have it all under control. I wanna see the Leafs to do their part in breaking the Bruins hearts lol. Payback and all that...

March 26, 2016 @ 8:35 PM

Toneman The Leaf Fan

@TM hey by the way, Mike, when you get a chance, maybe you could ask Ron McLean if he would consider lacing up his skates again and refereeing a few NHL games. Because the refs in the NHL are the most embarrassingly incompetent officials in professional sports, and it's only getting worse.

March 26, 2016 @ 10:00 PM

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@Toneman The Leaf Fan

Yeah, I just heard Babcock go off on the non-calls against Kadri.

March 26, 2016 @ 10:13 PM

Toneman The Leaf Fan

Brutal game by the refs.

March 26, 2016 @ 10:21 PM

Cheryl

My Habs are officially out of the playoffs. This sucks. The game last night was brutal. Mike Condon got pulled and they put Ben Scrivens in. Maybe if Scrivens was playing the whole game, they would have won. Who knows, but the game sucked and still no PK Subban. We need him back. Sure he did stupid things but he is a good player and we need him back and Carey Price. My Coyotes won though so there is still hope for them. My Nets won as well, but my Suns lost. Now eight more days until opening day. Baseball is back and Orioles and Diamondbacks.

March 27, 2016 @ 7:49 AM

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@Cheryl

How can that be? Weren't your Canadiens 9-0-0 to start the season?

What happened?

March 27, 2016 @ 9:12 AM

Toneman The Leaf Fan

@Cheryl

It's a whole lot more fun in Leafland. You should join us.

March 27, 2016 @ 9:47 AM

Toneman The Leaf Fan

I'm loving this rebuild! The truly painful part (the evaluation/teardown) is pretty much done, players will still come and go, but the core of the team is becoming more and more apparent, and these kids are only going to improve. Imagine Jake Gardiner and Morgan Reilly being the grizzled veterans on the blue line! The only thing that can make it suck a bit is if the Oilers get the first overall pick. I know the Leafs may not get it, but, Jeez, Edmonton AGAIN?! I used to like the Oilers, but this is ridiculous. Is their management team really that incompetent? Any other team would have cleaned house by now, as far as the GM and coaching staff is concerned, yet these guys are considered among the very best in the league. Really? And they will be rewarded, once again, with a very high first round pick, in what appears to be a very deep draft, once again.

Nobody can accuse the Leafs of tanking. This team is playing its heart out, night after night. Obviously, no good deed goes unpunished. I have this awful feeling that it's all going to happen again, with Bill Daly mumbling silently, "Please God, not again", as he opens that big envelope and does his best to smile as the Oilers' logo rears its ugly head yet again. And if it does, I guarantee it will be the last time a team has this many consecutive or nearly consecutive first overall picks. Gary Bettman will put a stop to it, not because it's the right thing to do, but because he hates Canada and Canadian teams.

@TM Hey! There's a question for Ron McLean. I wonder how much he enjoys interviewing Gary Bettman. If I recall, Ron absolutely barbecued him once or twice.

March 27, 2016 @ 11:08 AM

Irv

RE: Gary Bettman interviews

Gary was on CBC Calgary's "The Eyeopener" a month or so ago. Host David Gray asked him why he expected Calgarians to help cover the cost of a new arena with tax dollars. It clearly got up in Bettman's grill.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/david-gray-interrupts-nhl-commissioner-gary-bettman-1.3400300

March 27, 2016 @ 12:40 PM

Toneman The Leaf Fan

@Irv I listened to the interview. I just love it when Gary gets annoyed. The New York lawyer in him comes out into plain sight lol!

March 27, 2016 @ 12:52 PM

world news

ISIS on the run in Palmyra
World Heritage Site Palmyra liberated

March 27, 2016 @ 1:44 PM

Cheryl

I don't know why that had to happen, but my mind is pretty set on baseball right now which is great. Well, my Coyotes still could make it so there is still hope for them. My Habs need Price back and Subban.

March 28, 2016 @ 5:37 AM

world news

You would think everybody would be thrilled that ISIS has been driven from World Heritage Site Palmyra and is being decimated in Syria. Well geez, you would think! http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/why-is-david-cameron-so-silent-on-the-recapture-of-palmyra-from-the-clutches-of-isis-a6955406.html

March 28, 2016 @ 9:27 AM

Toneman The Leaf Fan

@world news I am delighted. Any word on prisoners? Funny how we never seem to hear of prisoners being taken, and even more importantly, weapons being seized. If no prisoners were taken, so be it, they'll get no sympathy from me, but we need to cut off their weapons and supplies. This is a basic military tactic that never seems to happen.

March 28, 2016 @ 9:48 AM

Toneman The Leaf Fan

@world news Check this out. Rob Ford is getting more attention in the news today than Syria and the attacks in Pakistan. I'm sorry he's gone, but Ford is now getting the kind of attention usually reserved for heads of state. Important and effective heads of state. Let the man's family grieve in peace.

March 28, 2016 @ 10:05 AM

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@Toneman The Leaf Fan

As an observer, I see the Ford family requesting and getting permission to put Rob Ford's body on full public display at City Hall. Doug has gone to the media to get the message out that he wants the public to pay respects to Rob's body and to join the family as they parade from City Hall to the church for Rob's funeral. That funeral, of course, is open to the public and Doug would like everyone to attend.

The Ford family doesn't want to grieve in peace, they want as much attention as possible.

March 28, 2016 @ 10:19 AM

Toneman The Leaf Fan

@TM Sadly, that appears to be true. Doug Ford is already running (galloping) for Mayor. On a more positive note, I am looking forward to your interview with Ron McLean.

March 28, 2016 @ 10:23 AM

Anonymous

Rob Ford's family registered http://rememberingrobford.com on the day prior to his passing:

March 28, 2016 @ 11:35 AM

infomercial

According to Goldsbie on Twitter 'Zanta' has shown up at City Hall. Remember him?

March 28, 2016 @ 11:57 AM

world news

according to U.S. Col. Pat Lang's blog Sic Semper Tyrannis re 'weapons being interdicted.'
Feb. 10, 2016
A major convoy of Jeish al-Fatah terrorist group, loaded with weapons and ammunition was destroyed by the Russian Aerospace Defense Forces on the road linking the Eastern part of Idlib and the Western part of Aleppo. A number of militants, guarding the convoy, also were killed or wounded in the air raid.

March 28, 2016 @ 12:21 PM

Irv

@World News

As far as a "mess" goes, you can't find one worse than Syria. Assad is nothing short of a dictator and a thug, yet he has Russian support. ISIS and Al Queda are his enemies as is the USA (which technically makes them on the same side). And it's spilled over from just conventional war too. It's now "cyber war". Assad has long had support in the "Syrian Electronic Army" which is a group of political hackers who attacked the US and UK repeatedly over their "lies" (their words, not mine). US Feds recently put up a $100,000 dollar reward for a couple of dudes in the Syrian Electronic Army (they use the handles The Pro & The Shadow). They're a couple of young dudes who created their own version of Linux called SEAnix.

Pretty much every western country has their intelligence agents monitoring all this. It's a disaster that could become something much larger. It's also a good example of how ISIS are not "Muslims" but ISIS wants the world to follow the stereotype. It helps in recruitment.

This is a war that needs to be fought on all levels. Military, financial, human recruitment, etc. ISIS isn't a group so much as an ideology & to use the words of Anonymous, "ideas are bulletproof".

The problems in Syria are in year 5. Most people have never heard of the place & our western media doesn't really focus on it. The media can't even spell their fucking name right. It's Da'ish, not Daesh or ISIS, etc.

March 28, 2016 @ 12:41 PM

Irv

Oh, and if you want to make $100,000 for the bounty on The Pro's head, he was last reported in Germany. He extorted a company he hacked and had the money transferred to a German financial institution. Anyone entering Syria is immediately put on a watch list so I doubt he's gone back.

Dude is a skinny little runt too. Hey Th3 Pr0, you can't outrun the entire hacking world..."bro".

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2016/march/two-from-syrian-electronic-army-added-to-cybers-most-wanted/two-from-syrian-electronic-army-added-to-cybers-most-wanted

March 28, 2016 @ 12:54 PM

fourteen

Man who offered up his wife for sex to his drug cronies honoured with City Hall full on remembrance services. Life is comedy.

March 28, 2016 @ 1:16 PM

Toneman The Leaf Fan

@Irv @World News

Brothers, your debate is true democracy and freedom of speech in action. Keep it up!

March 28, 2016 @ 1:23 PM

fourteen

World invited to attend funeral for serial drunk driver, to be held on the day following the sentencing of a drunk driver who killed 4.

March 28, 2016 @ 1:35 PM

world news

Irv knows all kinds of stuff I have no clue about. I just read 'alternative' news. Not sure it gives me any brilliant insights.

March 28, 2016 @ 1:39 PM

Irv

@Fourteen ........Clip below is taken from a show called Mr Robot.

Is any of it real?

I mean, look at this. Look at it! A world built on fantasy. Synthetic emotions in the form of pills. Psychological warfare in the form of advertising. Mind-altering chemicals in the form of... food! Brainwashing seminars in the form of media.

Controlled isolated bubbles in the form of social networks. Real? You want to talk about reality? We haven't lived in anything remotely close to it since the turn of the century. We turned it off, took out the batteries, snacked on a bag of GMOs while we tossed the remnants in the ever-expanding Dumpster of the human condition. We live in branded houses trademarked by corporations built on bipolar numbers jumping up and down on digital displays, hypnotizing us into the biggest slumber mankind has ever seen. You have to dig pretty deep, kiddo, before you can find anything real. We live in a kingdom of bullshit. A kingdom you've lived in for far too long. So don't tell me about not being real. I'm no less real than the f*cking beef patty in your Big Mac.

March 28, 2016 @ 1:45 PM

Toneman The Leaf Fan

@World News @ Irv

Disagree with what they said, but fight to the death for their right for them to say it. I think it was Kipling who wrote those words.

March 28, 2016 @ 2:15 PM

Toneman The Leaf Fan

@World News @ Irv

Disagree with what they said, but fight to the death for their right for them to say it. I think it was Kipling who wrote those words.

March 28, 2016 @ 2:15 PM

fourteen

Um, Irv, are you striking me down? Your last post reads as if you feel I've accused you of not being real. The point I'm making is the same as you. The general population is being fed bullshit and they lap it up without question. Imagine if people only bought what they needed.

March 28, 2016 @ 2:27 PM

infomercial

Doug Ford talking selfies with mourners at funeral.

March 28, 2016 @ 2:42 PM

Irv

@Fourteen

No, not at all. In fact I was agreeing with you. The "Kingdom of Bullshit" is exactly what we are living in. Our world has become one giant reality TV program. It's just Mr Robot says it better in the clip. The hypocrisy is so deep it's actually breathtaking.

And I think we're not that far away from a place where people who see through it will have trouble wondering if they're wrong...

March 28, 2016 @ 3:12 PM

fourteen

Oops, Irv, I should have watched the clip first.

March 28, 2016 @ 3:21 PM

dale

Wally Crouter passing on, a living legend in radio.

Rob Fords passing. Condolences to the Ford family, but he had problems with drugs & alcohol.
A loss for especially his 2 young kids. You reap with what you sow. Why such a "presentation for funeral?". I don't get it. Is Deco Labels paying for this fiasco? Probably.

No Cdn. teams in NHL playoffs. NONE deserve it & if Edmonton gets 1st pick in Lottery draft?????????

Jays probably losing both Jose & Edwin after this year. This year will be a plenty, hopefully.

Lastly, @Mike - Thanks for the Bell video. The Rug shrunk a few times as I do remember seeing it initially. Brings back a lot of memories or may late ancestors who fought in WW1/WW2.

March 28, 2016 @ 7:52 PM

Toneman The Leaf Fan

@ dale @Tm
Anyone who had parents in the late sixties, seventies and eighties in the GTA knows Wally Crouter's voice. Best pipes in the city. I can't help but wonder if there's just a little bit of rock 'n' roll in his eternal play list.

March 28, 2016 @ 9:22 PM

Toneman The The Leaf Fan

I said it twice. It must be true.

March 28, 2016 @ 9:27 PM

MorganThe Organ

Who cares? Who cares?

March 28, 2016 @ 9:31 PM

cringing

Wow. Doug Ford's 7 stages of grief go straight from grief to 'Grinning Selfies near the casket.'
Have you ever seen such a thing?

March 28, 2016 @ 10:29 PM

cringing

Toronto City hall has been turned into a funeral home where people grin for selfies.

March 28, 2016 @ 10:41 PM

Cheryl

My Coyotes lost last night and so did my Suns and Nets so not a good sports night at all. Oh well, they all lost. Well, less than a week until opening day. Orioles and Diamondbacks. They will both win on opening day.

March 29, 2016 @ 5:21 AM

Irv

@Cringing

While I agree with you (that it is cringeworthy) do remember Jack Layton used his own death as a means to his political agenda. That final letter he wrote was as much about him accepting his fate as it was in pushing the NDP agenda. He just executed the whole thing far less glaringly obvious than Ford did.

The whole selfie taking/public display thing is really just absolute proof that the Fords are NOT the "down to earth" people they make themselves out to be. They are well oiled & they're very good at marketing. I suppose the irony is that many of the "right wing" who support Ford would never imagine they've been bamboozled by a marketing campaign of sorts. Instead they imagine he really IS this swell man of the people. In the end we get the politicians we vote for and that is NOT their fault. It's our own fault because we let ourselves be guided by our partisan emotions.

We really do live in a Kingdom of Bullshit (to quote Mr Robot). The world has become one giant slick marketing campaign. And it will offend some, but the whole "common man" crap is part of that slick marketing campaign.

I was reading yesterday about Oculus, this VR technology set to revolutionize the planet. Perhaps our acceptance & "like" of all this slick marketing is because we simply don't want to live in reality? Maybe that's why were so willing to embrace the "good guys" (whether that's Trudeau or Ford). Both people are really the figureheads for slick marketing campaigns as their robot partisans cheer them on while they deride the other.

March 29, 2016 @ 8:44 AM

Argie

@cringing
Your boy Trudeau was selfying his way to Jim Flaherty's funeral a few years back. But then again, its different, right?
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/04/17/justin-trudeau-jim-flaherty-funeral-selfie-photo_n_5167866.html

March 29, 2016 @ 9:32 AM

Irv

@Argie

That's a good example but it neglects an important point. A bit of research shows you that "right wing" media was outraged at Trudeau for being so crass. Yet that same right wing media IS not outraged when Ford does it.

So the question is.....is taking self promotional selfies in "bad taste" at a funeral or is it only in bad taste when you don't agree with the persons politics? Certain people are willing to forgive Ford for his "mistakes" in life. I'm willing to wager substantial money that those same people would NOT be so forgiving if it was a Trudeau or a Suzuki guilty of bad behaviour.

March 29, 2016 @ 10:12 AM

Argie

@Irv
I think taking selfies at ANY funeral or viewing is in bad taste. Call me old fashioned or a dinosaur but its tacky. As they say, money can buy you a lot of things, but it can't buy you class.

March 29, 2016 @ 10:40 AM

Irv

@Argie

I agree 100%. It IS in bad taste. Now I don't begrudge Trudeau or Ford for taking selfies with their "adoring fans". Like it or not, that's just the way things are in 2016. This is the "era of narcissism"

A song that best describes the modern era. And it ain't just infecting the millennials.

March 29, 2016 @ 10:51 AM

Irv

@Argie

For some time I worked with police & was stationed at the police service (station). While I was stationed there sometimes people would come in to file a report On certain occasions people would come to complain that someone had said something bad about them on Facebook. Or *gasp* my fav was the person who had been tagged in an unflattering picture and wanted the officer to make the person "untag" them".

I kid you not.

March 29, 2016 @ 11:01 AM

cringing

@ Irv,
The word 'bamboozled' is the perfect word. Cognitive dissonance rules the day. The problem is not only that 'answers' and 'opinions' are so surface and shallow but even the ability to ask the right questions seems near impossible.

March 29, 2016 @ 11:23 AM

cringing

oh god. The Selfie video says it all. We are doomed.

March 29, 2016 @ 11:29 AM

infomercial

Selfies at a funeral, or on the way to a funeral, is bad enough. When your brother has died that ratches it up a whole series of notches.

March 29, 2016 @ 11:30 AM

informercial

I thought about it today. If you're used to taking selfies then taking them with a big politician's smile as your brother lies in repose nearby might just be regular business . It might even be a way to forget your pain. It's more like much of society today is tasteless and crass. Imagine wanting a selfie with the grieving brother at a funeral. Identity politics. A 'call to arms' for Ford Nation. Like Layton's funeral was a 'Call to Arms' for the left.

March 29, 2016 @ 6:37 PM

dale

My brother passed away early Sept./15
Tech crap. Iphones, tablets, etc. were not permitted as a day for remembrance.
Selfies at a funeral - Doug Ford you must be ashamed.

It may be a CIRCUS tomorrow with celebration at Congress Centre after the funeral. I work by the airport & will be leaving by 4PM.

March 29, 2016 @ 7:06 PM

Irv

@informercial

Heard of Auschwitz? It's a Nazi death camp in Poland. There was an estimated 1.1 million people who were killed there. I've visited the place and it's a disturbing, unforgettable experience.

And ... people stand out front of the gate & the crematoriums and...take selfies. Smiling.

March 29, 2016 @ 9:25 PM

Informercial

@ Irv,
Selfies at Auschwitz. Now I've heard everything. holy god almighty.

March 29, 2016 @ 10:45 PM

Cheryl

My Habs won. Too bad they have no chance at the playoffs. Anyway, next season they will have Subban and Price back and they will win the cup. My Nets lost again. |Yes again. Oh well.

March 30, 2016 @ 7:03 AM

Irv

@infomercial

How about this. Hostage on airplane does selfie with hijacker.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/grinning-brit-posed-plane-hijacker-191404618.html

March 30, 2016 @ 10:10 AM

Cheryl

My Suns lost again. This is no good. Oh well, they have no chance at the playoffs. Not a lot happened in sports. Well, four more days until Orioles and Diamondbacks home openers which they will win. Can't wait.

March 31, 2016 @ 6:03 AM

Informercial

@ Irv,
I wonder if there wasn't a strategy in those 'selfies' with the hijacker. Like trying to figure out what he was carrying or to soften him up. Of course the hostage softening up the kidnapper didn't work too well in 'Die Hard' as I recall.

March 31, 2016 @ 4:11 PM

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