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Lyle Lanley

Number two!

December 2, 2014 @ 9:26 AM


Hope you all had a nice weekend.

I'd like to ask some advice, if I may. I'm currently working at a job where the management is verbally abusive to its staff - I'm talking nonstop yelling, borderline racist and sexist comments, turning the AC on full blast (in December!) to "make people wake up and work harder." Etc.

My question is this: I kinda need this job, at least until I find another one (and I'm actively looking). But is there anyone I can contact in the meantime, preferably anonymously? The Labour Board, or something along those lines?

Any advice is appreciated.

December 2, 2014 @ 9:46 AM

this guest

John Tory taps Denzil Minnan-Wong as deputy mayor

wild eyed Denzil
with his clipboard
and a taste he can't
get out of his mouth

December 2, 2014 @ 9:53 AM


@Jenkis yes there is.

1) Document everything. Keep a small notepad with you. Every time there's verbal abuse, note what was said, by who, to who, and when (date time). It always helps to have these documented.

2) Workplace harassment policy: http://www.labour.gov.on.ca/english/hs/pubs/wpvh/harassment.php

3) Employment standards act: http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_00e41_e.htm

ESA, anonymous. I've called them before:
If you have additional questions about the ESA please call our Employment Standards Information Centre at 416-326-7160 or toll-free at 1-800-531-5551.

Keep in mind you CANNOT be reprimanded or punished in any way for talking to the ESA, inquiring about your rights, or standing up for them at your workplace. (okay, you CAN be, but it's deep deep shit for the employer and a huge lawsuit for you).

Your employer cannot fire you for their violations of the law. Again, see above for "can". =)

Your employer also can't change your job / make your life hell until you quit. It's called "Constructive Dismissal", and is also illegal, and as above-- deep shit from ministry of labor, huge lawsuit, etc.

Always keep in mind: you don't deserve this, and this isn't your fault. You're an adult, and a human being. You deserve to be treated as such, and with respect. That's entirely your boss' problem, and his fault. Being in a situation like that sucks, I know, I've been there. Get your resume out there. Actively look for work. Use vacation time / sick days for interviews. Handing in that letter of resignation will be one of the best days you have at that job. =)

December 2, 2014 @ 10:02 AM



That sucks, man.

Until they cross the line, you're fucked. Being an asshole and borderline won't do it for the labour board.

And besides, if they do cross the line, the best they can do is get you severance as if you were fired. So if you need the job, you need to put up with their bullshit.

December 2, 2014 @ 10:03 AM


Jenkins, sorry to hear that. This is what is good about working at home. I have nobody to bother me or anything, but sounds like you're in an awful place. Hope you find somewhere else that's better or work at home if you can get a work at home job because that is the best. How about those Habs. Another Habs win and a Coyotes win as well. This makes up for the dreadful weekend last weekend.

December 2, 2014 @ 10:08 AM

Ryan G / Hobo Gauntlet

I seemed to have gotten a cold.

For me, the associated symptoms are a huge pain in the ass. Rummaging around the closet we store sundry items in (yes I said sundry), I dug through the usual stuff - suntan lotion, tylenol, after bite and road flares.

So I came across some pills for colds and sinuses. But jesus christ spaghetti monster it's a nightmare reading the dispensing instructions. Yes I should probably get reading glasses, but my wife has decent eyes and she couldn't even read them. The print is like that old timey caligraphy shit you see on those tiny ships people put inside glass bottles.

I was sneezing like a banshee and I had a sinus migraine so I figure I've gotta roll the dice and pop two of them. I can proudly say this is the first time I've been high while at work. So, I'm bringing a giant bag of Doritos to my 11am meeting, which I can finish at home after I'm fired.

"So ladies and gentlemen, as you can see, second quarter results were encouraging
and hey there's a unicorn!"

Episode 2 of Hobo Gauntlet Radio is now online, featuring Gorillaz, Killing Joke, Cornershop, Ned's Atomic Dustbin, Elvis Costello and more. Get link at hobogauntlet.blogspot.ca

December 2, 2014 @ 10:10 AM


Why is it shocking that Tory picked a conservative Deputy? Even if Argie disagrees, Tory is a conservative. Sure, not a Rob Ford conservative but he's conservative.

@ Jenkins

If the yelling is abusive, then you should read this...
It's a violation of the law.

December 2, 2014 @ 10:12 AM

James Edgar

@ Jenkins McNulty is 100% correct follow his advice.

Speaking of over priced concert tickets
WOW i got an email a couple of weeks back that some tickets had been freed up for the February Hip show at the ACC . I had missed out on buying originally because I wasn't available but those plans changed at just about the same time I go that email so.. I go online to see where they are and whether it would be worth renting an oxygen tank to get up to that level and lo and behold they are in Section 107. Not first row floors or anything but not too bad. I decided to buy. $144 a ticket with the service charge. $144 WTF??

I bought anyway because I've never seen them at the ACC but I have a sore ass as a result.

December 2, 2014 @ 10:34 AM

this guest

Joe Clark is a conservative
so it is possible to be honourable
and a conservative

Denzil Minnan Wong is like
a caricature from an old woodcut
in a Grimms Brother folktale

December 2, 2014 @ 10:46 AM

this guest

good advice for Jenkins
@ McNulty

December 2, 2014 / 10:12

December 2, 2014 @ 10:48 AM


Dalton McGuinty is a liberal
so it is possible
to be a liar, a thief
and a Liberal

December 2, 2014 @ 11:14 AM


Having a lack of
Honour, ethics or
Just plain decency
Knows no political lines
You will find corruption
and dishonour
In any political party
That's why it is better
To avoid partisan politics
And vote for the person you trust
Not the party you best associate with

December 2, 2014 @ 11:16 AM


I was reading a story on former Buffalo Bil linebacker Darryl Talley on his struggles with depression and financial difficulties. The article mentions that he's in constant pain caused by his playing career and has contemplated suicide. A failed business during the 2008 economic crisis has made his problems worse. A fan recently established a campaign on a charity crowd sourcing website to help him and his family. So far it's raised over $145, 000.
There's a few things that bothered me about this story. Where is his union, the NFLPA? Aren't they suppose to protect players like him after their careers are over? More importantly where is the NFL? They recently signed a $20 billion television deal with Direct TV for the broadcast rights. Why isn't any of that money going to help former players like Talley deal with mental illness?
Although it's admirable that fans are raising money for Talley the NFL is not a charity. It's an extremely profitable corporation which also receives billions from American taxpayers to build football stadiums. I can think of 100s of charities that deserve money. Helping wealthy sports leagues deal with the medical problems of it's former athletes isn't one of them.
The fans already gave their hearts and souls to these athletes by going to the games, buying the jerseys, and cheering them on TV.

Here's the link to the story.


December 2, 2014 @ 11:38 AM

this guest

Let's see if
Philly Bob

Did you hear that Justin Trudeau
rescued a drowning kitten
and had time later to pose
for photographs
with an unplugged blowdryer?

December 2, 2014 @ 11:58 AM


homeless guy #1
to homeless guy #2:

What'd you used to do?
Military. You?
Pro sports.

December 2, 2014 @ 12:00 PM

this guest

forgot to follow all required

like the inventor of
the escalator once
technology just should
have stopped

December 2, 2014 @ 12:01 PM

Tiny Montgomery

For years he went to the cemetery every Dec. 6 to lay flowers at Maryse's grave with her mother.

This year, he will take part in the 25th anniversary commemorations, including an upcoming benefit concert. But the most important commemoration is his ongoing battle to maintain the federal gun registry in Quebec, despite Ottawa's wishes, so that "Maryse has not died in vain."

"We won a lot with laws that were passed in 1991 and 1995," Larrivee said. "A lot of what we won disappeared in April 2012 when the federal government destroyed the long-gun registry in Canada. That's 7.1 million weapons we completely lost track of."

Larrivee has campaigned with others against Bill C-42, which is currently in its second reading in the House of Commons. The Conservative bill includes measures that weaken control over the transportation of handguns and the handing out of possession licences.

"All the work we did for 25 years is a tribute to Maryse and the 13 other victims," he said. "If (we stop this bill), it will be the only positive thing to come out of all this. It will be a balm on my wound."

December 2, 2014 @ 12:13 PM

Tiny Montgomery

The Conservative bill includes measures that weaken control over the transportation of handguns. Rob Ford's friends must be thrilled.

December 2, 2014 @ 12:14 PM



To predicate, I am a gun owner. For security reasons I will not comment on the type of weapons that I own but I own long guns & handguns. Regarding transportation of guns;

- restricted weapons (handguns, certain types of rifles). To transport you require an ATT (auth to transport). This lets you take the weapon directly from point A to point B. It also must be unloaded & locked up in your trunk).

- non restricted weapons. This is a typical rifle or shotgun. For the record, the Mini 14 used by Lepine fell in this category. A weapon must be unloaded, in a case & locked in your trunk.

Now, I'm going to ask you to step outside your emotional self and think clearly. Mr Lepine was a murderer and we have serious laws against murder. This did not stop him. Why do you assume that a gun registry would have prevented this? Do you really believe Mr Lepine would be willing to overlook the laws that prohibit murder, but follow laws that control guns? Marc Lepine was a radicalized & fanatical personal. The "norms" of society meant nothing to that man. You cannot understand this because, frankly, Tiny, it's likely you are "normal". You lack the training to understand what circulates in the heads of these monsters.

For our society to thrive we need to craft laws which serve the "average" person. We should not craft laws based on events of radical & fanatical people. Should we stop building windowless van's because they were used by radicals as car bombs? Should we stop building tall buildings in cities because terrorists drove planes into them? Of course we should not. Nor should we prohibit the rights of people to legally own guns.

One last point. The gun used by Lepine was pretty much a standard everyday rifle with a rather small caliber. He used a 30 round clip (magazine). Far as I know (and recall) the largest legal clip today holds 5 rounds. Even so, nothing would have stopped Lepine from buying several clips.

Marc Lepine was a monster. He was radicalized and filled with hate. The gun registry would not have stopped him. Just like the laws against murder didn't either.

December 2, 2014 @ 1:40 PM


@ this guest

I did not hear
about the kitten
and while I think
you are pulling
my leg here, if true
good on Justin
for saving it
But I am unsure
as to what an
unplugged blowdryer
Has to do with anything

I still don't understand how you can write like that all the time....get's tedious after a while lol

December 2, 2014 @ 2:11 PM

Dawn Keibals

I hear many conversations about Saturday night HNIC.So far this season i have had a life and not had to tune in.
The day will come i assume and with 4-5 games on at the same time there would be no way i would see any ads or any intermission garble.Flip,flip then flip.
So,with not seeing any ads or any of the talking heads i am thinking Robbers has pitched away tons of money.
Anyone else plan to watch this way or is anyone watching this way now??

December 2, 2014 @ 2:44 PM



Well said Irv, a voice of sanity in what has become a politically correct, shameful vote grabbing piece of legislation that belongs in the garbage where it is now.

December 2, 2014 @ 2:59 PM


@this guest
Re: your comment about DMW

That's a disgusting assumption on your part. You may not agree with his politics but to insinuate that, is beyond the pale.

December 2, 2014 @ 6:54 PM

this guest

@ Argie:

it is disgusting to assume DMW carries a clipboard?
it is disgusting to assume DMW has a taste in his mouth he can't get rid of?
it is disgusting to assume DMW resembles characters in woodcuts illustrating Grimms Brothers folk tales?

Why would that be?

What exactly is 'beyond the pale?'
Do you even know what 'beyond the pale' means?

December 2, 2014 @ 7:24 PM

this guest

@ Argie,

Oh and
It is 'disgusting' to suggest DMW is 'wild eyed?'
What might being 'wild eyed' suggest?
have you seen his photographs?
What look do you see?

How can 'painting pictures with words that are open-ended and require the readers' imagination' be disgusting?

December 2, 2014 @ 7:27 PM


Too much negativity here with bashing.

I'm taking a sabbatical from here for a short time.

Happy Holidays to ALL

December 2, 2014 @ 7:31 PM

this guest

In light of Dale's comment
I am going to refrain from any
political points of view
or arguments

clam chowder

here we come

December 2, 2014 @ 7:38 PM


@this guest

Ahh it must be the season

For I see no reason

That Dale is leavin

December 2, 2014 @ 8:35 PM

this guest

@ Speysidephil

Hey man!

December 2, 2014 @ 9:45 PM


Well, my Nets and my Suns both won last night. That's great. Hockey wasn't so great though. My Coyotes lost. Unfortunately the Leafs and Raptors both won last night again. The Raptors are killing me in my pool. This sucks.

December 3, 2014 @ 10:37 AM


(fair warning, not happy, feel free to skip, need to rant)

Well, fuck this continuing shitstain of a year.

Police release the identity of the woman murdered in Markham last week, and it's one of the women from my dance studio. I knew Aleeya. She was a wonderful woman. She joined last year, and dove right into dance with everything she had. Went from beginner to onstage in less than a couple months. Always smiling, warm, kind, a nice word for everyone.

It's days like this I almost wish I was religious, just so I would know that whatever fucking monster coward asshole who could do something like that to someone like Aleeya-- will surely be burning forever in eternal torment in Hell.

December 3, 2014 @ 10:46 AM

this guest

@ Lorne,

very sorry Lorne for this loss of
your friend
I feel for her family too
what a sad

December 3, 2014 @ 11:27 AM


In Banff today listening to CBC Radio 1 and surprised to hear Preston Manning on The Current. He was basically saying we should be adding the environmental cost of products into the product.

Now, I am no fan of his "social conservative" politics, but I did like the populist ideals. Here was Preston Manning advocating a "carbon tax". Preston Manning, whose father leader Alberta provincially for nearly 2 decades. A man who started the phrase "The West Wants In" and stood up for them vociferously in Ottawa. A guy who spent most of his life promoting the interests of western Canada, notably Alberta.

And then I imagined Harper and Levant listening. Ah the internal rage they must be feeling. It reminded me of the day when Peter Lougheed was on the CBC talking about the oil sands. Peter Lougheed was the premier of Alberta for 14 years. He stood up to Trudeau during the NEP and told him he'd "shut off the oil" in protest. He was also the champion of putting public money (tax money) into this obscure thing known as the "oil sands". Same man was very public about the oil sands growing at such a rapid rate saying it was a bad idea.

The "right" had little to say on the comments of Lougheed. And I bet they have little to say about Manning. Rather than think about it, they'll just ignore it like it's not there. Sort of like how today's "rappers" ignore the innovators of real hiphop like KRS 1 or Chuck D. It doesn't change who wears the hat "Daddy Mac"

December 3, 2014 @ 12:22 PM


Speaking of oil and people full of crap, do you remember when you were touting the words of T Boone Pickens a few years ago that oil prices would continue to rise because we faced the possibility of running out of oil? What's that phrase you guys were using?

Well, it seems the oil is still gushing and demand has dropped which has created a huge discount in the price of oil. Did T Boone guess completely wrong or was he just full of crap?

December 3, 2014 @ 12:34 PM



The phrase is "Peak Oil" and it's still very relevant Argie. The advent of hydraulic fracking has helped the US increase it's oil production to 40 year highs. The USA now produces as much liquid carbons per day as Saudi Arabia.

While that sounds good, it ignores the technical realities of fracking. The largest technical limitation of fracking (which is never mentioned) is well depletion. In a conventional well like you'd find in Saudi, well depletion often takes decades. Well depletion is much faster in the fracking scenario. A typical well has a lifespan of years, not decades & these reserves are usually small. Therefore, to keep up production you need to "drill baby drill". That type of drilling requires huge amounts of capital & therefore requires higher oil prices ($100 a barrel). Fracking has simply pushed the production peak out a decade or so.

It's arguable but the price decline is likely the Arabs squeezing the proverbial balls of the North American producers. OPEC production costs are very low whereas North American producers have high production costs. If the price of oil falls to far, then the sands & the frackers will cap their wells which..will create a shortage of crude and push up prices.

My own opinion is that the biggest risk to the industry is smaller cars & the urbanization of cities. We're building new cars which use a whole bunch less gas. Toss in growing plug in hybrids and you're only using gas when on the highway. Then you've got an entire generation of young people saying "fuck the suburbs" and moving to the city core. Whether it's the Toronto wall of condos, Calgary's "Beltline" or The West End/Yaletown in Vancouver, people want to live downtown even if it's in a shoebox. You just don't drive. I know I was living/working in West End (Van) and I was buying a tank of gas every 3 months.

Boone is taking a look at the long view of the industry. Consider a "conventional oil well" like shooting a caribou. One shot & you've got dinner for a year. Fracking is more like finding a huge blueberry patch. There is lots to eat but it requires a huge amount of effort to get the berries. First you'll start with the biggest bushes then move to the smaller ones. That's the oil industry just blueberries are renewable. Oil is not.

December 3, 2014 @ 1:13 PM


Looks like The Bills cut out Rogers & Toronto based games. Maybe Rogers should buy the Argos & move them

December 3, 2014 @ 1:23 PM


Makes sense. I've also heard or read that China isn't using the same levels they were previously.

December 3, 2014 @ 1:47 PM



With regards to the Chinese it's possible as you have to take everything the Chinese government says with a grain of salt. EIA says US consumption is about 18.8 million barrels a day. A quick Google search confirmed my memory is still there.....The US oil consumption peaked in 2005 at about 22 million barrels a day.

There seems to be a "meh" attitude towards cars today too. I got my license at 14 (I lived in Alberta at the time). I couldn't wait. Today, my friends kids seem almost uninterested in getting a license. Many of my friends don't own cars or if they do they rarely drive. I know in Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver, people now fight over who gets transit. It's not a case of "it costs to much" it's a case of "when do I get a train station near my house".

The stone age didn't end for lack of stones. The fossil fuel age won't end because of lack of fossil fuels.

December 3, 2014 @ 2:27 PM

this guest

@ Irv:
The stone age didn't end for lack of stones. The fossil fuel age won't end because of lack of fossil fuels.

Fantasic phraseology Irv. Concept, analogy, image, mildly facetious humour.
Great communication.

December 3, 2014 @ 2:42 PM



I read the changes to the Firearms act. They're minor & they include "anti gun" changes too. You now have to take an actual course not just a test for your license. And if you have a history of spousal abuse you aren't getting a license.

But let me give you an idea on "acquiring a gun" based on my own personal experience.

1. I took a course for gun license (both) at a weekend course at a certified firearms school. You so much as raised the unloaded weapon or aimed it the wrong way you were tossed (and could face charges of pointing a firearm). After I acquired the license, I bought a rifle and a pistol. For the rifle I was required to buy a lock & secure it, unloaded to transport to my house. In my house it is required to be locked up & unloaded at ALL Times. The handgun was worse. I had to apply for a ATT through the range & have it granted so I could move the gun from the store to my house or another range. It was a "direct line of travel". Had I deviated from that direct line of travel (say I stopped at a burger place) I could have been arrested for breaking the law.

2. In 2010, I was living in Calgary. Par for the course, there was no street parking, so I had to park about 5 blocks from home. It was around 10 PM at night, bad area. While walking from my car a guy on a pedal bike with a gym bag rolled up. He casually rode up and offered "weed, crack, meth, handguns?". I was tempted to ask the price, but even then I knew better than to engage the guy. I politely declined and kept walking. He rode away. This is a true event, it happened on 18th Ave SW near the St Mary's Cathedral (big church).

How is a gun registry going to stop that guy on the bike? Further, how is the gun registry going to stop the sociopath from buying a gun from the guy on the bike. You may not know how to get a weapon, but be assured, someone who wants to acquire an illegal weapon can & will. It's not hard.

We should take the money allocated for the gun registry and spend it on crime prevention (like arresting the guy on the bike). But an even smarter idea would be to invest it in social services. You know, so that 15 year old who gets raped by her Dad has options other than standing near my condo, shooting up black tar heroin while offering me a blow job for $30 dollars...to pay her pimp/dealer (at that level the dealers are the pimps) or risk getting hung off a balcony for owing 30 bucks for crack from said pimp. Why I'd even pay a "license fee" to stop something like that. Shit, maybe all the "liberal left wingers against the gun registry" should pay a license fee like that as well.

December 3, 2014 @ 4:35 PM


Sorry that shld have said liberal left wingers for the gun registey

December 3, 2014 @ 4:38 PM


Jays get left fielder Michael Saunders from Seattle for J.A Happ. Looks like Cabrera is gone.

In related news the O's just got weaker again. This time losing Markakis to the braves.

December 3, 2014 @ 6:54 PM


I know all about this. My beloved Orioles just lost Nick Markakis. That's terrible and they lost Nelson Cruz as well. It's just terrible. I will probably get baseball again next year, but I have to pay for it. My trainer only paid for this year, not next year. I don't know if it will cost more to get the whole season. I found out he spent $19.00 on me for the partial season. That's not much. I'll see how much a full season is and if I want to get it. My Nets won last night. Great win. Mirza Teletovic is awesome. Another win for my pool. Unfortunately the Raptors won again which negates things because I haven't caught up to the guy way ahead of me. My Habs also lost. That game sucked. They really should have kept Danny Briere. Big mistake to get rid of him.

December 4, 2014 @ 10:04 AM

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