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519 Rob

The happiest man in the NFL must be Dan Snyder (owner of the Washington NFL team).
With all of the off field legal problems many of the players seem to suddenly have, the topic of the name of his team (I'm not using it, I think it's wrong) has gone a little quiet.
Here's hoping that this topic comes back soon, and Snyder does the right thing.

September 16, 2014 @ 8:33 AM

Ben Vidal

NFL doing the right thing is an oxymoron

September 16, 2014 @ 8:42 AM

Argie

REDSKINS! There, I said it.

I'm ready for the pitch forks.

September 16, 2014 @ 8:52 AM

Blind Dave

@Argie

Not from me you won't. There's a joke making it's way around so I don't know the original source (I read it from Ruth Buzzi) that (paraphrased) the Washington Redskins have finally dropped that disgusting, unacceptable name from their team. From now on they will simply be known as "The Redskins".

One of my closest friends for the past 25 years is native. I have no issue with the name and neither does he. He said, "It's just a sports team."

We had frost last week. Back into the 20s for most of this week. Thankfully my 8 tomato plants survived after I covered them up. I've only had 3 ripe ones so far, as it was such a late start. I've had the required toasted tomato sandwich with mayo and a few slices on a (semi) homemade pizza. I'm not sick of them yet!!!

September 16, 2014 @ 9:19 AM

this guest

can't wait for Doug Ford to enter the debates and bring it
down to the level of hash dealers
arguing about which scale to use

September 16, 2014 @ 9:25 AM

this guest

speaking of natives I love this quote
(and assume it is true)
very profound and worth thinking about

"My people will sleep for 100 years, and when they awake, it will be the artists who give them back their spirit."

Louis Riel

September 16, 2014 @ 9:27 AM

this guest

speaking of redskins
I love the gil scott heron song
(on youtube)

'Whitey's On the Moon'

September 16, 2014 @ 9:30 AM

Aurora Bob

I was listening to the radio this morning. Normally I am a Sirius listener but I was tuned into Q107 this morning because I received an email from them last week to participate in a survey.

I used to listen to Q all of the time, but I got bored with the cheap contrived laughs they tried to do. It was not funny. So, I listened this morning and I can say for a fact that Corus has realized that they are in trouble with this morning show and they have made an attempt to fix it but, it's worse.

Of course John "Derringer" Hayes is still the boss, but now they have him reading the news, sports, weather breaks. They still have the poor intern (who's probably pushing 40 now) in Ryan but he has never been funny - just bad loud impersonations and trying to be "dumb" with the Stump the Chump bit. Maureen has now gone from calling it in once in a while to being in the studio. This I think is the big leap that Corus has tried. Unfortunitly, she brings the same worn out Hollywood cliche news but she is not on the end of an ISDN line. Missing is "Flairboy", whatever that means. Although I did hear him on the weekend playing - wait for this - Derringer in the Morning best-ofs.

So, what about the content....

1. The so called "new format" is non-existent with the morning show. Derringer likes his 30-40 songs and he plays the crap out of them. Good thing it is digital, he would keep the record presses running producing Stairway to Heaven singles.

2. There is still a chemistry between the 3 onair people, but it is a tired and predictable chemistry. Fake forced laughter is common.

3. Having Maureen in the studio at least shows that she has an interest in being there, the problem is there is no content change.

SO, what is the future of this morning show. I have to wonder that they have made a change in September. Do they wait for the year-end book to decide? Do they jetison Derringer in favour of Diamond?

September 16, 2014 @ 10:00 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Aurora Bob

"Derringer likes his 30-40 songs and he plays the crap out of them."

Except there's no way Derringer is picking the songs he's playing. I don't deny the shallow playlist, but that's not on him.

Many years ago I would listen to Brother Jake Edwards doing mornings on Q107. I hear he's a free agent now...

September 16, 2014 @ 10:08 AM

Lyle Lanley

I grew tired of Q10Zeppelin long ago.

The 102.1 morning show is brutal.

88.1 is a little better.

Biggs and Barr on HTZ put on a good show.

The best morning radio in Toronto might just be Brady and Walker on The Fan.

September 16, 2014 @ 10:10 AM

Philly-Bob

My son turned 7 today. It's been a rough 2 years for us, but the little guy came through it like a champ. I realized this morning, reflecting on the past 7 years, that he has kept me sane when the rest of the world seemed hell bent on driving me crazy...

Hug your kid(s) today...they really are all that matters at the end of the day.

September 16, 2014 @ 10:12 AM

Al Reda

Your kids are all that matter, so hug them, but if you don't have kids, don't go hugging other people's kids. That's frowned upon.

Is anyone here childless by choice?

September 16, 2014 @ 10:20 AM

Ryan G

@Al Reda. Abso-fucking-lutely.

September 16, 2014 @ 10:22 AM

Philly-Bob

@ Al - you are correct sir, probably not the best idea.

@ Ryan G - to each their own, personally I think you're missing out.

September 16, 2014 @ 10:23 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Philly-Bob

You say @Ryan G is missing out because you have a kid and you dig it.

I have three kids and I can't imagine life without them, but I thought I was done at two kids and couldn't imagine having a third. Now I'm so glad I did.

Those who choose not to have kids aren't missing out, because they're (typically) happy with their choice. They've got more disposable income, they can make impulsive decisions regarding travel, they sleep well at night...

I salute them!

Fun fact: In my life, I've had precisely three friends tell me they would remain childless by choice. All three are women. Today, all three are mothers and loving it.

Not fun fact: Many are childless due to fertility issues and I'd hate for them to think they're "missing out". There are pros and cons to having kids and not having kids. The key is to be happy with the cards you're dealt.

September 16, 2014 @ 10:29 AM

Argie

"The key is to be happy with the cards you're dealt."

Amen to that! Unfortunately, there are too many people today who are either miserable because of their kids or are miserable because they can't have kids.

September 16, 2014 @ 10:36 AM

Ryan G

hilarious Philly-Bob. Very typical response. On my note to Al Reda I didn't pass judgement on people who have decided to have kids, but I get these sort of comments all the time from folks like yourself.

Most recently, I met with someone who casually asked me if I had kids. I said nope, and she said "oh well maybe some day". How incredibly rude. First, how does she know there aren't other issues involved, and second, how dare she take a superior stance like that?

In situations where people have been talking about their kids here (or in any social situation in fact), I would never go on and on about how unbelievably fantastic my lifestyle is sans yard-apes, but maybe I'll start.

September 16, 2014 @ 10:38 AM

Philly-Bob

@ Mike you are correct. That's why I prefaced it with "to each their own"

I was certain I didn't want children, for many of the reasons you listed, income, sleep, quite frankly I didn't think I'd make a good dad. Then I had one (surprise!!!) and I couldn't imagine life any other way.

September 16, 2014 @ 10:39 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

On a related note, soon my wife and I will have the "do we have another" discussion. I really think I'm done at three, but she can be awfully persuasive.

September 16, 2014 @ 10:43 AM

Philly-Bob

@ Ryan - that wasn't intended as passing judgement. If you don't want children, go with that instinct and love life.

However...I think you should definitely point out your lazy Saturday mornings, extra disposable income, and crumb free furniture the next time someone acts like you "should" have kids.

September 16, 2014 @ 10:44 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

Back in 2010, we had a great discussion about women choosing not to have children. It's worth re-reading.

http://www.torontomike.com/2010/01/how_many_canadian_women_choose.html

September 16, 2014 @ 10:48 AM

Tiny Montgomery

Being child-free means being worried-to-death-free at many key moments in life such as the coming environmental apocalypse. Yes, I have kids.

September 16, 2014 @ 10:48 AM

Curmudgeon

I'm also Childless by choice. I get the "you're missing out" comments all the time. Pisses me off.

I've never wanted kids. I don't hate kids, but i've never had the urge to have my own. Neither has my wife. Doesn't that mean we shouldn't have kids? Shouldn't we WANT to? Aren't there millions of kids on this planet that don't have homes or good family lives because they weren't really wanted? Some people shouldn't have kids. Maybe I'm one of those people.

Do you think everyone should have kids?

And then there are those that call my wife and I selfish for not having kids. We're too "self-involved" or something. Well, why did you all have kids? isn't it because you WANTED to? or did you have them to help the world in some way? Because we definitely need another billion people on the planet.

I don't judge those who have kids, but i'm sure as hell tired of being judged by those who think i'm selfish and "missing out". I love my life.

September 16, 2014 @ 10:49 AM

Lorne

@RyanG: "she said "oh well maybe some day". How incredibly rude. First, how does she know there aren't other issues involved"

Uhg.You have no idea how that feel when there actually are issues involved. It took 2 years and significant medical intervention to get pregnant with our first (my wife's at 16 weeks today). Thankfully we'd already managed to get people to shut the fuck up with "you should have kids" years ago, so we didn't get too much of it. But we had answers on deck for anyone rude enough to press the point.

If someone won't stop bugging you about kids, a couple of those answers that are surefire ways to shut that shit down:

"Well, not every gets to chose when they have kids"

And if the subtle route doesn't work:

"It's not for lack of trying"

September 16, 2014 @ 10:53 AM

Ryan G

Exactly Lorne. Precisely Carmudgeon. Spot on Mike.

But you see Philly Bob, society at large demonizes those who don't have children, as Carmudgeon points out, so in the situation where people say something ignorant and I respond with something like you suggest, it is ME who is perceived as the prick.

But to be honest, in that particular situation, I did in fact say something to that woman. I responded as nicely as possible with juuust a hint of sarcasm: "well no, I don't want children", and just smiled and stared at her. It was as awkward as awkward gets, and I loved it.

September 16, 2014 @ 11:01 AM

Philly-Bob

@ Curmudgeon - No sir, you are correct. If you don't want them, don't have them. I see many parents who clearly didn't "want" children, but have them. I can only imagine what life is like for those kids.

September 16, 2014 @ 11:03 AM

Broni

@ Mike
"I really think I'm done at three, but she can be awfully persuasive."

Based on how you wrote that sentence, don't even bother fighting it. You are going to have a 4th kid. I'll put money on that right now.

September 16, 2014 @ 11:09 AM

Philly-Bob

I'm with Broni...unless you take it upon yourself to get snipped....Jarvis is getting a little brother/sister sooner or later.

Who wants to take bets?

September 16, 2014 @ 11:11 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Broni

Not necessarily... if I were a betting man, I'd bet I'm done.

September 16, 2014 @ 11:16 AM

Drunk Johnny Fever

I became a gelding a few years in a cozy office on Bloor St.More kids is no longer an issue.

September 16, 2014 @ 11:35 AM

CQ

I just tried to apply to Bell Canada (yeah, I know - lol) as a Financial Analyst. Lord almighty:
One of the greatest corporations in Canada... their application questions insisted I answer whether "I was Surplus". Huh? Assumedly this is a military question, right after I clicked 'No' for military service.
Then they wished to ask any number of race identity questions. How should a white male Cdn. citizen answer, "No, really I don't care to play along although I'm applying for work"??

September 16, 2014 @ 11:35 AM

Justin

Terrestrial music radio is dead. D-E-A-D.

Why would I listen to the same songs on the radio all the time when there's amazing music apps with endless selection like Rdio, Songza, and 8tracks available? Why would I subject myself to poor song variance, annoying commercials, and useless hosts that essentially talk about nothing? I want music. That's it. The music apps on my PC or mobile devices provide that and nothing else.

I still love to hear my share of sports or news talk on the AM dial (though even that's lesser nowadays with podcasts) but FM has gone extinct. I'm not sure there's a clear solution for that in the industry.

September 16, 2014 @ 1:23 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

I must admit, sometimes when I bike at lunch I'm listening to Ontario Today on CBC Radio One, depending on the topic.

Otherwise, I guess the only time I hear terrestrial radio is in my car where AM/FM comes standard.

September 16, 2014 @ 1:26 PM

Jamie

Speaking of kids... I just had my second one born on September 3rd. She was born at just 32 weeks gestation and I'm hoping she will come home this weekend. When people found out they say "Congrats", I'm not entirely sure why they say that? All I did was have sex with my wife. Should I congratulate someone else that had sex and that for some reason their sperm never reached the egg? I had no extra power that made conception occur.

September 16, 2014 @ 1:59 PM

Rob

@Jamie

I bet you're a downer to be around.

September 16, 2014 @ 2:09 PM

Philly-Bob

@ Jamie - Conversely I've always wondered why when our ladies are pregnant, everyone rubs their belly and says "congratulations" but no one pats our balls and says "good job"

September 16, 2014 @ 2:22 PM

Speysidephil

@philly-Bob

Good one buddy. Keep em coming?

September 16, 2014 @ 2:27 PM

Jamie

@Philly-Bob.. Now that would be great!

September 16, 2014 @ 2:32 PM

Philly-Bob

See...now isn't this one of the more pleasant Open Mike's, we're debating the issues of the day, cracking some jokes...Kumbaya muthafucker Kumbaya

September 16, 2014 @ 3:03 PM

Philly-Bob

@ Broni - Here's what we do, we take Mr. Boon's bet and WHEN he and the Mrs. have another one, the child must be named:

Phillybob Broni Boon

or

Broni Phillybob Boon

I'm not picky :)

September 16, 2014 @ 3:05 PM

Cheryl

I do not have kids and do not want them. Sure, I don't mind seeing kids if it's a short time, but to have to take care of them. I am also single and like it that way. All this Redskins talk. The Redskins won't go anywhere really. It's the Ravens and the Cardinals to the Superbowl. Well, I would love my Orioles to win tonight, but Ubaldo Jimenez is pitching tonight and he is a bust. He got moved to the pen. He is back in the rotation. That sucks. No, I would love my Orioles to win tonight, but they won't all because of Jimenez. They will win tomorrow night.

September 16, 2014 @ 3:56 PM

GUNTer

I'm a woman and I have no children - by choice. My DH kinda/sorta wanted them but then fell into my camp when we realized - ya we are too lazy for that shit. However, I do have a boatload of neices/nephews whom I love and love to have stay over. I get to buy them the stuff their parents wont/cant afford, have a ton of fun, barely any discipline and then send them home. Woooot. I love kids, but i don't want to tend them 24/7/365.

September 16, 2014 @ 4:36 PM

twins from bolton

Having children is a couples choice & I can respect that decision.

Infertility is more prevalent now than ever before. 3 co-workers of mine were not able to have kids. 2 of them now have adopted 2 children each in the last 5 years & the other went to fertility clinic & within 6 months was pregnant - a baby girl this past April. They made their decisions & are all happy with their families now.

Many others at work have NO kids & when others show up at work during maternity leave with their kids to show them off they are the ones who want to hold, touch, play with them & tell the parent how to treat & bring up your children. I see this constantly & want to PUKE. No CLUE.

True Story.
A co-worker with no kids took a WEEK off because her dog died at 18 years old as she was too upset to come to work. What is going to happen when a family member passes as both parents are in their 80's. Take 6 months off?

I only took 4 days off when my Mom passed away doing legal stuff as executor of her will & came back to work to just get away from the emotions.

My thoughts overall as there is nothing better than raising a child as it made me stronger even with the burden of deprivation of sleep early on, focus is on the kids full time teaching & financial changes. Was it worth it - OF COURSE & wouldn't change anything.

P.S. Gonna be a grandfather in Dec. - due date Dec. 23rd. A gift under the tree.


September 16, 2014 @ 6:50 PM

this guest

Not sure what shape I'll be in when my turtle dies.
Lining up a therapist now.
have talked to my supervisor.

September 16, 2014 @ 7:10 PM

twins from bolton

@this guest

True story with dog passing away. Many of us still talk about it after 5 years.

Turtle death - 2 days off or do you need more time.

1 of my best friends passed away from ALS this past Friday night in his sleep as I've mentioned before in my comments.
Such a TERRIBLE disease & no cure.

RIP Bryce - miss you & love ya


September 16, 2014 @ 8:03 PM

Anonymous

@ twins

Very sorry to hear about your friend. In the last four years for me:
two friends, one brother. all cancer.

and on the lighter side:

2 days off for the turtle should be fine. :-)
I hope my boss can make it to the memorial.

September 16, 2014 @ 8:24 PM

this guest.

oops. forgetful about name yet again. sorry.

September 16, 2014 @ 8:24 PM

this guest.

I joke about the turtle of course.
only so much love involved in having a turtle.
although I had a friend with turtles (rescue turtles no less) that would get fresh
water in the bath daily. each one had grown huge.
Kind of freaked me out to walk into the loo and see those things.
Or to see something move in the corner like an upside down bushel basket.

I still miss my dog who stayed with ex after the divorce.
Man do I miss that dog.


September 16, 2014 @ 8:32 PM

Rick C in Oakville

@this guest: We have a turtle that is 23 years old, bought it as a distraction so my son would stop asking for a dog. He kids us that a dog would have died by now. I still look after it, as my son has been non committal about assuming ownership for "Tommie".
Read a story a few years ago of a couple with a 40+ year old turtle, almost similar circumstance to my own.

September 16, 2014 @ 9:56 PM

this guest.

@
Rick C

That's rather amazing. 23 years old. 'Tommie.' :-)
By now the turtle is part of the family!
Do you think the turtle knows who you are?
(not trying to be funny, actually curious)

September 16, 2014 @ 10:24 PM

Cheryl

Well, just when I thought the clinching wouldn't be until tomorrow. Ubaldo Jimenez walked a lot of people, had a rough first couple of innings, but managed to win anyway so my Orioles are AL east champs. Yes they are. That's the first step. Then we are going to win the World Series. Yes, yes, yes. This is great. Anyway, so the Orioles are going to win for sure no matter what. It's awesome. My Orioles are awesome and then Ravens and Cardinals to the superbowl and Habs and Coyotes to the Stanley Cup final. Oh, Jimmy Paredis and Steve Pierce homered for my Orioles. Tonight bud Norris is on the mound.

September 17, 2014 @ 4:32 AM

rod

@AuroraBob

Check out 94.9 The Rock. Craig Venn, the funny guy from the old Q107 morning show is hilarious and has his own show now. All of my friends have been listening too, he is really funny.

Music is way more than the old 40 songs that Q play and new rock too.

They are also doing 90's @ noon too. It's the real rock station in Toronto.

September 17, 2014 @ 7:04 AM

this guest

Does Bud Norris eat Edge with Protein or is he a sushi guy?

September 17, 2014 @ 8:15 AM

James Edgar

I was married for 12 years and we wanted kids . Didn't happen :( I got divorced and now i have a 9 year old step daughter with my second wife whom I married this past Saturday (At swansea town hall Mike )

Both not having kids and having a kid has been great. The freedom of not having that responsibility was awesome,impulsive fun things were a regular thing.

Now not so much , But Hearing morgan call me Dad (Mostly james But sometimes :) ) and give me Hug is pretty special and I couldn't imagine not having that in my life.


As for those getting hassled for not having kids? I think i just ignored people during my first marriage Or maybe people didn't ask because we were obviously not doing all that well LOL .

With all the news of NFL players beating on wives and kids you'd think it would be pretty obvious some people shouldn't have kids. People trying to push parent hood on others should really think for a minute.

September 17, 2014 @ 8:51 AM


Tiny Montgomery

Brace yourself for post 5 o'clock when Joe Warmington and Sue Ann Levy rev up the Doug Ford machine and decide who to blame for Rob's illness. Certainly not his lifelong 'disease' of alcoholism, certainly not drug addiction, genetics, obesity, lack of exercise, poor diet, lying and concealing lies, negative attitudes, fate, luck, blind chance, the people shot and thrown off balconys in the hunt for the crack video. No, it will be the media and 'politics' and his critics who will be to blame. Don't get me wrong, I hope the guy survives but this is all politics now.

September 17, 2014 @ 9:52 AM

Speysidephil

@Tiny
How Stupid does your post read now.
I assume you will apologize for your crazy rant.

September 17, 2014 @ 5:22 PM

Tiny Montgomery

Why? We have yet to see Joe Warmington and Sue Ann Levy ramp up the blame machine. If they don't wildly blame the media or Ford's critics or insinuate blame at some point then I'll admit I'm wrong. Have they done it yet? I don't know. I don't read them too often. We have yet to see how the politics of this will be acted out. In the meantime let's hope the private citizen Ford wins his battle with cancer and lives to a ripe old age.

September 17, 2014 @ 7:54 PM

Tiny Montgomery

Well, she's already started:

Sue-Ann Levy ‏@SueAnnLevy 3h
Just heard Dr. Zane Cohen say Ford's lifestyle had 0 to do with this rare tumour. Take that you disgusting lefties and media mouthpieces.

September 17, 2014 @ 8:05 PM

Tiny Montgomery

This is beyond. She is inventing an issue and inventing reasons to blame Ford's political opponents. I have only heard people wish the best for Rob Ford even though they find his politics and personality abysmal:

Sue-Ann Levy @SueAnnLevy · Sep 16
The lack of humanity and pettiness by the trolls/Lib elitists/some media in this city re: RoFo is shocking, but sadly telling.

September 17, 2014 @ 8:08 PM

Speysidephil

It has nothing to do with alcoholism, drug addiction, genetics, obesity, lack of exercise, poor diet, and everything else your post insinuates is his cause of cancer.
At this point I time it has nothing to do with politics, or his lifestyle.

September 17, 2014 @ 8:08 PM

Speysidephil

@Tiny
Maybe Sue was referring to you!

September 17, 2014 @ 8:10 PM

Tiny Montgomery

I also included genetics, fate, luck, blind chance. I was thinking of all the things people blame for a disease. I knew she'd twist things around to find something hysterical to blame lefties for. And that is very political. She is very unlike Chow who showed tremendous class.
I agree with you. It has nothing to do with politics or lifestyle. I wouldn't rule out stress however affecting the auto-immune system.

September 17, 2014 @ 8:29 PM

Rab Ferd

My heart bleeds for them when I hear someone gets killed, but it's their own fault at the end of the day.

September 17, 2014 @ 9:33 PM

Bing

@Toronto Mike

Did Humble Howard and his girlfriend break up?

September 17, 2014 @ 9:52 PM

Cheryl

Orioles sweep the Jays. Awesome. How about Stever Pierce. He homered twice. That's wonderful. Anyway, I don't know if Bud Norris eats Edge with Protein or Sushi. I haven't asked him. Anyway, Orioles are closer to the World Series, that's for sure. Marcus Stroman got suspended. Serves him right. He never should have hit Caleb Joseph in the head. That was wrong. Well, he's out for six games. Yes, Chris Davis got suspended but he needed that drug. He made a mistake for not getting an exemption. It was not steroids, it was Adderall for attention deficit disorder, but Stroman isn't going to win the appeal, believe me.

September 18, 2014 @ 4:41 AM

Argie

@Speyside
Its OK, when Doug wins they'll wish Rob was mayor. At least Rob tried to be nice.

September 18, 2014 @ 8:45 AM

this guest

jailhouse beating scott macintyre: NICE.
shooting death anthony smith for crack video on his phone: NICE.
guy shot in leg 17th floor rexdale for crack video: NICE.
humiliating wife with pussy talk at city hall: NICE.
calling fellow councillor a waste of skin: NICE.
smashing into pam mcdonnell on council floor: NICE.
giving money to drugs and gun gangs: NICE.
trying to close libraries where poor kids get computer use: NICE.
this list
could go on and on
and on

September 18, 2014 @ 9:18 AM

this guest

let us wish the guy well with his health
and not try and turn a very small minded man into a saint.

September 18, 2014 @ 9:20 AM

Argie

@this guest
Going to a massage parlor (the non-RMT type) while married: NICE

Oh sorry, wrong saint.

September 18, 2014 @ 9:30 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

Rob Ford has cancer. That's terrible for him. Cancer is a non-partisan, unbiased sonofabitch. Everyone knows someone who's had to battle this cruel disease.

Rob Ford should look after his health. After all, without his health he has nothing. Trying to cling to power in Ward 2 sounds awfully selfish to me.

But make no mistake about it, Rob Ford remains a lying, misogynist, homophobic, short-sighted, abusive bully who showed no compassion for those who die cycling Toronto's streets or those who succumb to AIDS. Today, he's that very same person, only with a cancer diagnosis.

About 100 people in this city learned they had cancer yesterday. Rob Ford was just one. I wish them all luck and hope one day there is a cure.

September 18, 2014 @ 9:31 AM

this guest

yes Argie,
let's say you're right:
20 years ago a man, now dead, was interrupted by the police
at a massage parlour.
We don't know if there was a hand job or not.
It was over 20 years ago.
The man is dead.
The dead man did not show a continuous pattern of cruel, abusive, self-centred behaviour in his life.

I remember seeing Jack Layton volunteer as an auctioneer raising money for an arts education organization.
Helping to send artists into poor schools so those kids could experience creative activities.
He did hundreds of such things over his career. Hundreds.
You have one thing that may or may not have happened to complain about?

Does bringing up that incident somehow in your mind justify Rob Ford's behaviour over the last 14 years as a councillor?
let us wish Rob Ford well in his battle with cancer.

September 18, 2014 @ 9:47 AM

Ben Vidal

@ this guest; Argie has a terrible problem of deflecting and never really answering questions head on.

Freddie P gave Layton 3 days of mourning before he began criticizing the man again. So lets give 3 days and then we can go back to saying how much of a shitty human being he is Cancer or no cancer.

September 18, 2014 @ 9:58 AM

Tiny Montgomery

Microscopes down, scientists, Sue-Ann Levy has found the cause of cancer and…oh hello, hypocrisy. pic.twitter.com/fYrMLTuRck
Interesting twitter posting from Globe and Mail columnist showing Sue Ann Levy's wild hypocrisy suggesting Chief Blair may have caused Ford's cancer.

September 18, 2014 @ 9:59 AM

Argie

@Ben
Deflecting (an over used online attack) = giving a counter argument

Sorry, I forgot only liberals can bring up ludicrous accusations - conservatives cannot.

September 18, 2014 @ 10:24 AM

Ben Vidal

If you want to bring up ludicrous accusations bring them up on their own don't bring them up when faced with a question or a stance. It lessens your argument. Someone says the federal conservatives are terrible because of this and you reply well look at the provincial liberals. Can you tell me how you think that is a sound argument or actually improves your position?

September 18, 2014 @ 10:30 AM

Pastor Molotov

Even Jimmy Carter admitted to lust in his heart. And where Jimmy goes...most men have gone.

September 18, 2014 @ 10:39 AM

Grey Stone

Are you going to throw me? Are you going to pick me up? Wait. Do you lust and have you acted on it? Even in your mind? Or with an image, digital or paper. Have you aimed your impurities at somebody's being/ affecting their vibrational field across time and space? Do you judge yourself? Are you going to pick me up?

September 18, 2014 @ 10:45 AM

Argie

@Ben
OK, I'll just respond with "no, he didn't". Is that OK with you?

Thanks for your help.

September 18, 2014 @ 10:45 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Bing

Why don't you ask him yourself? humbleandfred@humbleandfredradio.com

September 18, 2014 @ 11:30 AM

Cheryl

Well, my Orioles have a night off, but tomorrow, the Redsox come to Baltimore and so look for another Orioles sweep. That will be great. I had the pitching rotation memorized, but they changed it a bit. I think it will be Miguel Gonzalez tomorrow, then Chris Tillman Saturday and Kevin Gausman Sunday. Anyway, Ravens at Browns on Sunday for football. Ravens will clobber the Browns. Then later on it's the 49ers at my Cardinals. Make it three in a row for my Cardinals. There is curling this weekend, but my trainer won't be there and neither will his team. As long as no big gun team wins, I'm okay. Maybe Kean or Epping could win this one. Give a younger team a chance.

September 18, 2014 @ 6:22 PM

Rick C in Oakville

@this guest. Tommie Does get a bit excited when you check out his tank, but this is probably more related to his knowing someone may be dropping food into his tank, rather than recognizing me. But I sometimes get the same reaction from daughter!

September 19, 2014 @ 6:12 AM

Rick C in Oakville

@this guest. Tommie Does get a bit excited when you check out his tank, but this is probably more related to his knowing someone may be dropping food into his tank, rather than recognizing me. But I sometimes get the same reaction from daughter!

September 19, 2014 @ 6:12 AM

Rick C in Oakville

@this guest. Tommie Does get a bit excited when you check out his tank, but this is probably more related to his knowing someone may be dropping food into his tank, rather than recognizing me. But I sometimes get the same reaction from daughter!

September 19, 2014 @ 6:12 AM

Rick C in Oakville

@this guest. Tommie Does get a bit excited when you check out his tank, but this is probably more related to his knowing someone may be dropping food into his tank, rather than recognizing me. But I sometimes get the same reaction from daughter!

September 19, 2014 @ 6:12 AM

Anonymous

@ Rick C

:-) ! Now I'm thinking of Tommy the Turtle speaking in The Who song 'see me, feel me, touch me.' :- )

Yes, food is a great motivator! :- )

September 19, 2014 @ 1:30 PM

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