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Sam in Pickering


July 29, 2014 @ 8:50 AM


What a beautiful crisp autumn day in Toronto.

Too bad it's the middle of the summer.

July 29, 2014 @ 8:51 AM


Sorry to get all serious on this summer day but.............what the hell!

Whenever the Israelis and Palestinians go at it there is the usual debate, protests and propaganda from both sides. Obviously there are good and bad people on both sides, as is the case with any war/conflict.

Its all very cloudy - except one thing, which is crystal clear: The Palestinians are lead by a terrorist organization. This doesn't make it a good vs. evil battle but one should keep this in mind when "choosing" sides. Israel, as a sovereign country, is doing what every other country would do and that is to defend itself from an aggressive terrorist opponent.

So yes, we should feel bad for the victims of the Israeli bombs but keep in mind that the initiators of this bloody, useless conflict is Hamas. If anyone doubts what I write, read the Hamas charter which will give you a glimpse into this terrorist organization.


July 29, 2014 @ 9:04 AM

Al Reda

Is anyone following the Commonwealth Games?

July 29, 2014 @ 9:27 AM


I have - the rhythmic gymnastics competition has been captivating!

July 29, 2014 @ 9:29 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

It's amazing to me that the same events that have me glued to the television during the Olympics have me completely disinterested now.

I see the Olympics as the world's best against the world's best, where a Usain Bolt will try his best to set a world record.

Bolt didn't even bother racing in the 100m during these Commonwealth games.

I'll care again in 2016 in Brazil.

July 29, 2014 @ 9:36 AM


As much of a mess Rob Ford is I would take him over Brampton Mayor Fennell any day.

July 29, 2014 @ 9:37 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


Both should go.

July 29, 2014 @ 9:53 AM

Rick C in Oakville

Cool week to be taking vacation. Heading to Bancroft Wednesday, hope it gets better. Feels like this summer is almost over, and once the CNE starts, then it definitely is over.

I feel the Commonwealth Games and our Pan Am games will only be important to the cities hosting them.

July 29, 2014 @ 9:55 AM

Ryan G

re: commonwealth games. I suppose it's the same issue affecting the CFL and Marlies. I'm not sure if it's totally accurate with these particularl games, but the perception is that the best of the best isn't competing, and therefore why waste your time watching.

Somewhat of a different animal with TFC. Although the best players in the world likely play in the premiership (or whatever it's called) TFC still has a pretty loyal fanbase. Perhaps though this is a result of the perfect demographic storm within a multicultural Toronto. In addition, the talent and calibre does seem to be improving as well.

July 29, 2014 @ 9:56 AM


Yes Hamas can be considered a terrorist organization but Israel is no better.

They basically took over land that wasn't "theirs" or rather was another countries land to give. Made agreements to give land back and proceed to do nothing about Israel settlements on said land.

That area is a complete mess and will only be resolved if they put their tail between their legs and refuse to retaliate with bombings when any unsanctioned attack occurs. After they do that it would make 50 years for people to forget or wounds to heal to the point where the two sides can live in peace.

Of course none of that will happen. Palestinians will always feel like prisoners in Israel unless given valuable/holy land all throughout Israel. Israel for everyone of their citizens killed will level multiple towns in Palestinian controlled territory and will never surrender half of the land they currently occupy.

It is an ugly situation which the only solution is both sides have accept some of their citizens will have to die for peace and they can't respond when this occurs. Which is a lot to ask for.

July 29, 2014 @ 9:58 AM

this guest

Israel has bulldozed/destroyed 800,000 olive trees on Palestinian land
since 1967.

And have you seen all those concrete walls, barbed wire topped fences they are squeezing them inside?

Nothing to be pissed off about though.

July 29, 2014 @ 10:07 AM

Radio Guy

Mike, what happened to Carlos on 102.1?

July 29, 2014 @ 10:20 AM


You can just as easily decry the concrete in Gaza diverted into the tunnels, the incessant and indiscriminate rocket attacks, etc, etc.

Both sides have been miserable. Full stop. I would also say that it's tragic that the Palestinians have been leveraged by other countries as their proxy against Israel.

We lack the political and social leadership to work towards de-escalation, stabilization and reconciliation.

July 29, 2014 @ 10:23 AM

this guest

Some people are 'opining' that women should be
more involved in making decisions
about war and peace.
Not career politicians who are part of the system
but mothers.

July 29, 2014 @ 10:30 AM


@ This guest - yeah, cause no woman has ever lead her country to war, other than:

Indira Gandhi
Margaret Thatcher
Golda Meir
Catherine I &II of Russia
Elizabeth I & Victoria of England...

I could go on....

July 29, 2014 @ 10:39 AM


Again, this is not about which side is worse than the other or who is right and who is wrong. This is about the fact that there will never be peace between these two sides as long as a terrorist organization (Hamas) is leading the Palestinians - plain and simple.

Again, if you haven't read their charter, please do so. Its in black and white - they want the entire land that the country of Israel currently sits on. That is their mission - end of story.

July 29, 2014 @ 10:44 AM


The Israel cycle:

1) Some form of truce or ceasefire is established.
2) Hamas gets restless and blows up a bus or something else despicable.
3) Israel overreacts with extremely excessive force.

This isn't gonna end anytime soon, and I feel awful for the powerless ordinary citizens on both sides.

July 29, 2014 @ 11:27 AM


@ Radio Guy

Carlos is back on the Beat in Kitchener. I have no idea why.

July 29, 2014 @ 11:41 AM

this guest

@ philly bob

reread my qualifying statement about average mothers.

July 29, 2014 @ 11:47 AM


@ this guest: Philly Bob would rather fly off the handle and demand absolution.

i could go on....

July 29, 2014 @ 11:49 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

I asked Carlos Benevides about his return to The Beat.

In a nutshell, he wasn't happy doing middays on 102.1 and wanted to return to mornings in Kitchener. It sounds like it was his choice.

July 29, 2014 @ 11:55 AM


@this guest
So when you say a mother should be more involved in the decisions, are you referring to the "mothers" in Gaza who allow and sometimes encourage their children to be suicide bombers?

July 29, 2014 @ 11:59 AM

4x4 Time

Some random thoughts,
1. What happened to July, I cannot believe it is almost over
2. I heard on the radio this morning there are still 44 “official” Toronto Mayoralty debates left until Election Day. Anyone else find this ridiculous?
3. Are the Commonwealth Games “bigger” than Pan Am Games?
4. Met Richard Hoffman who plays Louis Litt on “Suits” at the airport on Sunday evening. Pretty funny guy.
5. Spent last week at a friend’s cottage in Muskoka..Canoe, kayak, swimming, hiking, open fire cooking, an all week cooler filled with cold beer and wine, campfires listening to Blue Rodeo, Neil Young, Guess Who etc. It beat’s a week in Florida in February.
6. Read today that Apple has 16% unit share of worldwide smart phones, but number 1 share in market dollars. Samsung leads in unit share worldwide, and is growing at the fastest pace.

July 29, 2014 @ 12:04 PM


20C in May is great. 20C the last week of July sucks the big one!

July 29, 2014 @ 12:29 PM

Rick C in Oakville

@4x4: The length of time the Mayoralty race goes for is just too exhausting for the average citizen. 30-45 days is all that is needed and with the short attention spans of the electorate, probably would be more effective. Is there 44 because of how many ridings there are in Toronto? Have to agre with your point #5, heading North tomorrow my self for the same type of holiday.

July 29, 2014 @ 12:37 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

Yes, the length of time of the mayoralty race is far too long. We've got to shorten it.

And that's far too many debates. When exactly is the mayor supposed to... you know... do mayor stuff.

July 29, 2014 @ 1:00 PM


@ They guy who wishes he was me (aka Bob-Philly) - How was listing a whole slew of women who have lead their country to war "flying off the handle?"

July 29, 2014 @ 1:03 PM


@ this guest - the same could be said about allowing "average fathers" the same thing. Common sense is not something exclusive to women....

That's what's wrong with our political system in general. Our governments are no longer made up "of the people, by the people, for the people" they are all made up of these career politicians who spend their entire lives in search of "power" then do anything and everything to keep it.

July 29, 2014 @ 1:04 PM


that last comment was me

July 29, 2014 @ 1:04 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@4x4 Time

I'd put the PanAm Games on par with the Commonwealth Games. I suppose you could argue they're a bit bigger because the mighty USA is there, but it's still not best-on-best and the heavyweights, like Bolt and Phelps, will likely opt out.

July 29, 2014 @ 1:05 PM

Rick C in Oakville

News (or Non) item of the week was the milk marketing boards wanting to go to 3 litre bagged milk, along with 4 litre etc. What a waste of non recyclable plastic really, we use the 4 litre jugs from Mac's and always turn them in. Maybe it's about time the marketing board looked at doing away with the bagged milk all together. Outside of Ontario, you never see this, only cartons and jugs. Surprised this never came up for debate from one of the environmental groups.

July 29, 2014 @ 1:11 PM


@ Rick - Agree 100%. However, I find the milk in the cartons spoils way to easily. I have on numerous occasions bought a carton with a good exp date on it, and it's sour as hell when I open it.

I also tend to go with the 4L jugs from Mac's, but I've been burned by the cartons one time too many....

July 29, 2014 @ 1:16 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

I've been buying the 4 litre bags of milk my entire adult life and I've never once stopped to consider if there's a better way.

I think that's mainly because I always buy my milk at No Frills or Shopper's Drug Mart and the 4 litre bags are by far the most cost effective way.

My oldest son will take down 4 litres in a single weekend.

July 29, 2014 @ 1:18 PM


Never mind breaking bad/walking dead, the Simpson's and Family Guy are teaming together for an episode in September.

I know, its likely their last desperate "Hail Mary pass" to get viewers but whatever, I'll be watching.

July 29, 2014 @ 1:41 PM


@ Argie - I don't think I've watched a new episode of either show in at least 3 years, but yeah, I'll be tuning in for that one

July 29, 2014 @ 2:04 PM


I'd watch the Simpsons / Family Guy mash-up!

July 29, 2014 @ 4:32 PM


Well, let's hope this Israel thing doesn't hit Canada or anything like that, turn into a world war. That would not be good. Anyway, I see my trainer tomorrow. He was supposed to be gone on holidays now, but it's pushed back. He has a temporary licence now so he can drive again, but that wasn't good when he lost his wallet. Well, summer isn't over yet. We still have August and some of September as it does not end until September 21. Grocery Gateway gave me another bag of granola. I wish they would stop giving it to me. Well, my trainer, his wife and kid can snack on it while they're driving to Thunder Bay. Obviously, the kid can't because he is still a baby, but he and his wife can.

July 29, 2014 @ 5:01 PM

this guest

I had no idea they put wasabi flavouring in chocolate bars.
What an unfortunate surprise.
I guess read the label next time.
3.99 down the tube.

(first world problem)

July 29, 2014 @ 5:55 PM


A Simpsons/Family Guy crossover. It saddens me to see just how far The Simpsons has fallen.

July 29, 2014 @ 6:16 PM


I'm really enjoying TVO's documentary series "Apocalypse: World War One". It coincides with the 100 anniversary on the war to end all wars. The series is fantastic.
You can watch the 5 part series Monday night's at 9pm or online here:


July 29, 2014 @ 6:17 PM


WTF are the leafs doing, signing NO NAMES to contracts. Winnik, Robidas, Santorelli, Boothe & then sign Gardiner for over $4MM/yr today for long term.

I predict 22nd overall or lower. Bank on it.

Go Jays Go

July 29, 2014 @ 6:42 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


I'm actually pleased with these moves. Low risk sensible signings... and locking up Gardiner is great.

July 29, 2014 @ 7:01 PM


@ Mike

With these signings & current roster do you actually think the Leafs will be a contender to even be in a position to make the playoffs? No Way In Hell.

July 29, 2014 @ 7:17 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


Oh, I didn't say it's a playoff team... Unless Bernier stands on his head.

I've just liked the moves they've made (and haven't made) lately.

July 29, 2014 @ 7:24 PM

this guest

@ Argie,

You don't have to convince me about their aims. I don't need to read their manifestoes to know that they probably want to attack Israeli cities with the latest weaponry killing many women and children in the process. They probably want to target innocent children playing on the beach. And I'm sure they want to shell rehabilitation hospitals filled with the infirm and paralyzed. I can just imagine them calling up families in the dead of night saying you have 3 minutes to vacate the house before it goes up in a massive blast.

You don't have to convince me. I'm sure you are completely right.

July 29, 2014 @ 9:31 PM

Jason from Sudbury

Re: Simpsons/Family Guy
Bart's prank call is one of the best I've heard him do in quite some time. Looking forward to the show in September.

Re: Milk
We usually buy the bags at either Shoppers, Food Basics or Cosco cause it's cheaper. Although for some odd reason I find the milk in the jugs from Mac's is always colder. I'll buy them once in a while too but they're more expensive so will only get them there if the grocery stores or Shoppers is closed.

Speaking of milk at Mac's, whatever happened to the Mac's Milk comercials? I used to love those! And that's no bullshit.

July 29, 2014 @ 9:55 PM


The Holy Family Latin Church in Gaza has just received an evacuation order warning them that Israei is planning to bomb their neighbourhood tonight. In a message, a priest writes: " The church of Gaza has received an order to evacuate.. they will bomb the Zeitun area and the people are already fleeing. The problem is that the priest Fr George and the three nuns of Mother Teresa have 29 handicapped children and nine old ladies who can't move.

"How will they manage to leave?? If anyone can intercede with someone in power, and pray, please do it. We are trying.. may our impotence be taken up by his Omnipotence!!"

The House of Christ in Gaza, is a care home dedicated to looking after disabled children. The disabled children were removed from the care home into the Holy Family Church recently because Israel was targeting the area.

The parish appeal for prayers.

July 29, 2014 @ 11:57 PM


The debate on whether to allow 3L milk bags in stores is one of the reasons I'm a conservative.

Why do milk producers need the governments permission to sell milk in 3L containers? Because of stupid cumbersome supply side management of the milk in Ontario which HASN'T stopped the decline in milk consumption over the last 2 decades nor lowered the price for consumer esepcially low income families. Not only that there are fewer farmers producing milk in this province than ever before.

Imagine the discussion on Toronto Mike if we had a salty cracker management board. You can't buy those small plastic wrapped crackers anymore to crumble in your soup because that would discourage the purchase of the large boxes.


July 30, 2014 @ 7:40 AM

Sam from England

Milk?! In bags?! 4 litres?! Madness

July 30, 2014 @ 8:52 AM

Ben Vidal

Discussion regarding milk. Growing up we always had the 4 liter bags of milk. Never thought anything of it. As a teen they were handy you could grab one and bring it down stairs with you and drink it with all the stuff with all the food I had raided from the pantry. Today I live by myself. I get 1 carton of lactose free and I'm good to go. I don't miss the bags, hadn't really thought of the bags till this topic thread. I do remember people in the US thinking we were crazy, because they all get their milk in jugs.

Israel vs. Palsetine. I have little sympathy for a people that will build arms depots or any form of army equipment into residential homes and apartments. Without tossing people in front of tank they are essentially using human shields. Nearly all the rest of the middle eastern world has no love for the Palestinians. The only reason they supply them arms and money is because they hate Israel. With that said, the iron hand that comes falling down from Israel every time there is a conflict is completely unnecessary and brutish. Even after a cease fire Israel will do something dickish like go and bulldoze some more land for their own settlement.

As expected Ford Fest devolved into a spectacle everyone else was expecting. Intolerant assholes who think the fist is mightier than a well spoken word. However the most truthful think Robbie has ever said came yesterday. When he stated he was in a conflict of interest everyday as mayor. Now I know he was mocking the fact of the latest accusation against when it comes to RR Donnelly, but I wonder if it was a Freudian slip.

World Cup: I didn't provide any update from the trip earlier. Life got int the way and I became newly single.
Couple of highlights. The games were fantastic.

I was lucky to be at the USA Ghana game, which if any of you watched was really exciting. Well played game on both sides. Only downside, was the consistent "U S A" chant, and the fact that the Americans around us didn't really understand the game of soccer.

Greece vs. Japan. Was boring, no big moves, no score and definitely no excitement. The only fun thing was taking pictures with Japanese people dressed up as samurai warriors. The draw back was listening to the Japanese women scream every time Japan got the ball. The screaming of the women was eerily reminiscent of some adult video clips out there.

Costa Rica vs. Italy. I've been to Costa Rica and have a big affinity for the country and it's people. It truly was a sight to see them play and do well against Italy. The feeling in the stadium was truly jubilant.

Brazil itself. Beautiful country, but wholly shit is it ever expensive. Hotels, food, taxi's, general goods. Luckily the only thing that's cheap is their beer, so you can imagine what I was drinking the entire time I was there.

Infrastructure sucks. The highways in sao paulo flood the minute there is rain. It coincidentally rains a lot there, who knew?

Airports are dumps.

When you read in the newspaper that Brazil was behind on the stadiums. It was completely accurate. Nearly all stadiums were still in some level of renovation or finishing construction. The grounds around the stadiums were littered with fencing and construction debris.

The people barely speak English. When I say barely I mean it's one of the few countries I've visited where they truly take no interest/attempt in speaking to you in any other language other than their native tongue.

It was my first time really seeing slums. It made me completely thankful for having the opportunity to grow up in Canada and be a Canadian. Even when you get out of the slums you'll have a street where there is a massive mansion and beside it is a small plot full of garbage with people living in it. Beside that a more middles class home followed by a shanty followed by another mansion.

The beaches were fantastic. Really can't complain going to a game and then coming back to hang out on the beach and drink some beers in public. Food was good especially if you like seafood.

The towns and shops pretty much closed up every time a game was on. Every Brazilian was trying to cash in on the World Cup With people opening up patios to their homes, putting a big screen outside and charging people $10 bucks to get 4 beers and watch the game.

I didn't really see any protests in the places we stayed, this was more of a problem in Rio and Sao Paulo.

You could see wasted money every where. The airport we landed in Natal, was brand new. Much like the stadiums it wasn't completely finished being built. The hilarious thing was they just shut down the old airport they had a couple of kilometers away. No one could tell you why.

Think that sums it up.

Hope everyone is having a good day.

July 30, 2014 @ 9:52 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Ben Vidal

Great insight.

July 30, 2014 @ 10:15 AM


I would have to agree with your take on the Israeli/Pal conflict.

As for the Ford fest - I have no idea why anyone, whether they're pro-Ford or anti-Ford, would attend one of these things. Apparently, Stintz and Thomson were there - again, the question I have to ask is why?!?

Nice summary of Brazil and the WC. Would have loved to be there.

July 30, 2014 @ 1:10 PM


Audio pro Andrew gets a shout-out in this week's Geeks & Beats podcast. I like their discussion about the 17 year old girl who doesn't pay for music, nor care how bad what she listens to sounds. That mindset is just awful. Artists spend untold days/weeks/months in a studio and with an engineer to make the music sound just "perfect". I think people like this girl should be denied access to music. Shame, shame, shame - even if she's not paying for any of her music.


July 30, 2014 @ 2:45 PM


Well, the Leafs won't make the playoffs. Just remember the Habs will get the cup next year. It's their year. PK Subban should sign soon, by Friday anyway. Leafs have no chance. It's Habs and Coyotes.

Well, I gave my trainer the other bag of granola. I saw him today. I won't see him until August 12. Now let's hope Grocery Gateway stops sending granola or they could send a free sample of some other junk I don't want. As for milk, I drink almond milk now. I like it better than regular cow's milk and they say it's better for you anyway. Almond milk doesn't come in bags, but cartons.

July 30, 2014 @ 4:58 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


I will give you $10,000 if the Habs and Coyotes meet in next year's Stanley Cup final.

If they don't, you just have to give me $10.


July 30, 2014 @ 5:02 PM


@Ben Vidal

Brasil is expensive because of issues with their currency & the US dollar. They are also highly taxed. It's supposedly cheaper to fly from Brasil to Miami to buy an XBOX than it is to buy one in Brasil. The corruption in the government & police there are beyond comprehension to the average Canadian.

The slums you speak of are called favelas. Favelas are often right next to rich areas including Cantagalo which is right next to the wealth of Ipanema Beach. Prior to WC in Brasil, many favelas were controlled by drug lords like Amigos Dos Amigos & Comando Vermelho. The drug lords essentially had control over the favelas & set the rules for the citizens. It's a unique relationship in that often it was safer inside certain favelas (especially Rocinha) than it was in the rest of Rio.

I spent 3 months in a Brasilian favela and count it as one of the most interesting times of my life. It is a unique place where the working poor have come together and built what is a functioning community. You can now take a Google Maps trip up through Favela Rocinha to get a visual picture of it. Check out the movies Cidade De Deus (City of God), Uma Era Vez (Once Upon a Time) and my favourite Cidade do Homens (City of Men). The latter is a brilliant depiction of life in Brasil of the working class. It's filmed in Favela Vidigal which is at the end of Ipanema Beach near Dois Irmao mountains (The 2 Bros).

July 30, 2014 @ 5:07 PM


@Toronto Mike

Wow. The psycho that's been banned is back, but you want me gone. That hurts Mike. That really hurts.

July 30, 2014 @ 7:00 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


He is in fact banned.

And although I find your comments annoying while completely lacking in humour and value, you are not currently banned.

July 30, 2014 @ 9:50 PM


I thought Theory of a Deadman was passable on Humble & Fred ... then I came across this shitshow of a track on a list of top 50 worst cancan songs on Alan Cross's site:


Holy hell there's no excuse for that.

July 30, 2014 @ 10:04 PM


Phew Irv's back.

Now maybe Corey will be so focused on his obsession with Irv that I might be able to make a simple comment without noise from the peanut gallery.....

July 31, 2014 @ 8:19 AM


Phew Irv's back.

Now maybe Corey will be so focused on his obsession with Irv that I might be able to make a simple comment without noise from the peanut gallery.....

July 31, 2014 @ 8:19 AM


@Mike -

Well, at least you'll always have Philly-Bob.

July 31, 2014 @ 8:35 AM


Okay. As long as I don't have to pay $10000.00. Anyway, the Cardinals are winning the Superbowl this year. I'm really looking forward to the Superbowl party. Cardinals will win it.

July 31, 2014 @ 8:56 AM


@ Mike - Yeah, you'll always have Philly-Bob!

July 31, 2014 @ 10:27 AM

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