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Mike, I'm going to ride to Hamilton tomorrow. Join up with me as I hit the west part of Toronto and come part of the way. I'll be a great ride.

May 30, 2014 @ 9:13 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


I'd love to, but my enemy is time.

I would do a 100km ride today if I had an empty day. I blame work and the newborn...

May 30, 2014 @ 9:16 AM


I've decided for the first time in my adult life that I'm not going to cast a vote for any candidate in the upcoming provincial election. Can't do it.

I'm still going to my voting centre, but I'm returning my ballot blank, which requires them to essentially count the vote as "none of the above". There is an important distinction between doing this and spoiling your ballot. Spoiling your ballot just gets reported as an error. Returning you ballot sends a message - it's not "apathy", it's "disgust".

I'll be doing this in the federal election too. I'm sick of playing the stupid game of pretending the party I vote for will keep their promises.

May 30, 2014 @ 9:29 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

Allure Body Bar (735 Danforth Avenue) was nice enough to send me Fresh Balls by Fresh Body. This is for "itchy balls syndrome", and I don't suffer from "itchy balls syndrome".

But if you do, at least you know Fresh Balls exists and where you can get some.

May 30, 2014 @ 9:29 AM

Blind Dave

So who out there would have predicted the Rangers in the Stanley Cup Final? I did not even think about them when the playoffs started.

The Jays: Real deal or mirage? Never mind last night. Lets see how they're doing in the dog days of August.

My teenager is studying Romeo & Juliet in school. Poor bugger. My wife likes Ol' Shakesie. I never did. So the lad is looking to me for the sympathy. He can have all he wants providing he keeps his marks up. I tell him there are aspects of my job I don't like, but I do them anyway and I do them properly.

Should be 24 and sunny today. Great day for some outdoor exercise!

May 30, 2014 @ 9:33 AM


The Edge 102 website is horrific. I went to look up a song that was played a while ago. There used to be a nice big-ass list of songs in 24-hour chunks. Nice simple text list. Time played, band name, song, links to buy. Easy navigation to previous days, going back about 30 days.

But why should anyone make that information easy or convenient to access? No, you know what this needs? WEB3.0! INFINITE SCROLLING! MINIMAL INFORMATION! LOSS OF TIME CONTEXT!

Yup, now it's a "infinite" scrolling list. Meaning it shows you only a few songs, and you can "infinitely" scroll on and on to "load more". Want to see something halfway down the list? You have to scroll. Then wait. Then scroll. Then wait. Then scroll. Then wait. Then something goes wrong and you have to start at the top again.

Rather than being a list of songs, it's about 8 songs. "Load more" only loads 2 more. Instead of showing band name and song title in a nice grid, it's HUGE ELEVENTY POINT TEXT, so there's less information on the screen at at time.

Know the exact time your song was played? Too bad, rather than showing what time the song was played, it just shows "hours ago". As in "this song was played 5 hours ago". Hey, everyone. Right now is 9:32am. What time is 5 hours ago? Oh, I forgot to mention, before I calculated 5 hours ago, I first rounded up or rounded down to the nearest hour. I'm not sure if I rounded up or down. Congratulations, it's literally impossible to figure out what time a song was played any more.

So there we go. Take a useful tool. Make the font size too large to fit sufficient information on the screen. Remove critical time information. Reduce the number of items showed from 24-hours worth of songs to 8. Remove browser-standard scrolling that is easy with janky, half-broken infinite scrolling so it's impossible to navigate. Massively increase the amount of user-interaction required to load more data (from none to constantly scrolling). Useful.


Oh, and bonus points: they got rid of all the Thursday 30 archives. What possible use could this history of song charts be?

May 30, 2014 @ 9:36 AM


I totally agree with your post but I plan to vote for Hudak simply because of this: This province can no longer rely on Wynne and the Liberals to run things.

Obviously we're getting a minority (either way) but at least under the PCs, there is a lesser chance that they will eff up finances like the current govt has. I'm sure you've heard, the PCs have uncovered another close to half of billion loss due to Wynne and her peeps giving a private company funds.

You have that along with e-health, ORNGE and the gas plant closures and God knows what else. Enough is enough.

May 30, 2014 @ 9:47 AM

James Edgar

A possibly better solution for Itchy ball syndrome is Anti-Monkey Butt Powder.

I discovered it doing long distance rides on the motorcycle. needless to say it can get crazy hot down there sitting pretty much on the motor and with shorts not an option for anyone with more than two brain cells.

Gold bond medicated powder also works great to keep you dry and not so itchy .

Both Sting a bit going on though ... and really, really belive me when i say Gold bond foot powder is not an alternative.

May 30, 2014 @ 10:07 AM

Ryan G

Fresh balls? really?

When I see these types of products, it makes me think about how quickly we'll all die when the giant meteor collides with earth.

We've become so disconnected with the basics in life that it's almost comical how quickly we'll meet our extinction amid some catastrophic natural event.

If it happened today, I'd probably be one of the first to say, "well, it was a good run!", and slowly walk into the river at sunset to avoid the terribleness that would surely follow. (I'd make it the Don River so the poisons would hopefully speed things up).

Tomatoes for example. They come from the supermarket right? Heat? Well the government would surely provide us heat! And I wouldn't think there would be any chaos or panic should millions upon millions of everyday people around the planet be suddenly cut off from absolutely everything. I mean, look at how orderly things are when a single flood in a tiny region of the planet occurs in The Most Advanced & Powerful Nation On The Planet.

Face it. If a monstrous solar-flare zaps us (which can happen at any time btw), we're fucked.

May 30, 2014 @ 10:13 AM


Mike, next time. You will miss a good day :)

May 30, 2014 @ 10:14 AM


@ Argie

The recent scandal isn’t a scandal. It’s surprisingly good finances. Buy a building, move all the offices to it and stop paying rent. That’s the gist of the scandal. The PCs are trying to make it sound worse than it is. Will it cost us money? Yes. But long term it makes far more sense than paying rent.

I won’t vote Hudak. His Million Jobs Plan is bogus. He wants to fire 100 000 people. His words. That doesn’t even make sense. Sure, hate the public sector but there is no way they will lose 100 000 jobs through attrition. That’s just absurd.

May 30, 2014 @ 10:24 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


I've got a meeting in the east end of the city today. I'm going to bike to it and back. I'm thinking it's a 45 km round trip, which will have to do for today.

May 30, 2014 @ 10:33 AM

this guest

the conversation reminds me of the
schweaty balls sketch on snl
years ago

horwath at this point to me is a puzzle. probably an idiot but maybe not.
I just don't know.

wynne is a juggler- her heart is in the right place but she's dealing
with a complex new world order economy

hudak represents a nasty brand of politics appealing to the most
narrow minded people

May 30, 2014 @ 10:34 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Blind Dave

You can get a pretty good idea of which teams we all bet on 7 weeks ago by the number of players taken in my annual playoff pool:

Exactly 4 Rangers were taken, out of 90 in total. Nobody was banking on the Rangers this year...

May 30, 2014 @ 10:36 AM

Ben Vidal

I'm also of the same mindset as Corey. I was actually going to post in the last open mike how terribly jaded I feel this campaign. I look at all 3 leaders and truthfully feel that each leader is out for themselves and not the province. The way they talk the condescending attitude they seem to have to each other and to people asking them questions actually makes me a bit sad. I know leaders who present a message of hope get criticized in the long term, but I would at least like to feel like one of the leaders even remotely cares about this province outside of how it will benefit themselves.

Due to this apathetic feeling I spent some time in the last month to visit the campaign offices of all three candidates in my riding. Libertarian and Green party don't really count so I didn't even bother. After speaking with the three candidates I made my mind up based on that. So in the end it really isn't about their leader but my representative.

This latest apparent scandal is exactly as McNulty put it; not a scandal at all. Even owning the building now and selling it in 5 or 10 years will net a big return. Even Horvath didn't really care about it. Tiny Tim is grasping at straws now as his campaign takes a nose dive into the shitter.

I think that through all of this we get to see how bad of a leader Tim Hudak is. With all the scandals that have plagued the liberals for Hudak not to be nearing 50% of the vote says something. He's a dud and I think this election will be the final nail in the coffin for the pall bearer of Ontario politics. I don't think you can argue with that Argie.

May 30, 2014 @ 10:41 AM

this guest

The antiseptic world we live in:

Staff and Grade 8 students at an inner-city Toronto school were looking forward to the three-day graduation trip to an idyllic nature camp in Eastern Ontario — until they were informed they couldn’t canoe, kayak or try archery.

And swimming, rope activities and campfires? Only if “sufficient proof of safety” was provided ahead of time, along with “a script of safety routines and insurance in case of injuries.” With the requested documentation and swim tests near-impossible to complete before kids were to leave June 10, the trip fell to pieces, staff say.

Instead, students will spend one day in Niagara Falls.

May 30, 2014 @ 10:45 AM

this guest

prior to lighting the campfire
we will practice evacuation routines.

students with the last name beginning A - K will proceed
to the pine grove

students L - Z will congregate around the boathouse

should evacuation be necessary each group will have a team
captain trained in grief counselling

May 30, 2014 @ 10:48 AM


Hey Mike -

thought you might be in the know on this... I have a side business that I'm starting and want a basic website built to look professional.

Any suggestions?

May 30, 2014 @ 10:49 AM

James Edgar

@ Ryan G

First world issues I know....

Hopefully some Scientist not working on Fresh balls research is working on that giant anti asteroid laser...

And hopefully if it's a he he's using something to keep his balls fresh so he's not distracted from the important stuff....

May 30, 2014 @ 10:51 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

I appeared on The Todd Shapiro show yesterday. You can listen to the episode here:

I extracted my bit and here it is in MP3 if you're curious:

May 30, 2014 @ 10:55 AM


Ho hum, my Habs lost. That was not a good game. I was hoping it would go seven games and I said it would, but I am wrong. That's the thing. I'm wrong. Now who do I want for the cup. Don't really like any of them though, but it's either pick one or forget about hockey until next season. Now all that's left is boring baseball. Well, I finally get to play baseball and tennis with my trainer. The weather is nice enough. Well, my trainer's wife is in a soccer league playing soccer on the weekends. I hope her team wins, but I won't find out until I see my trainer again. They lost the first game though.

Well, believe it or not, I decided who I'm voting for, Glen Murray. My trainer liked him when he was living in Toronto. That's who I'll vote for.

May 30, 2014 @ 10:57 AM

519 Rob

Unless someone really WOWS me in the next few weeks, I am also returning my ballet empty.

This saddens me...

May 30, 2014 @ 10:59 AM

this guest

vote for the person liable to do the least damage

sit next to the person least likely to cut your head off

May 30, 2014 @ 11:04 AM


@McNulty & Ben
I seriously doubt this secret deal that the Liberals withheld from the public will be successful. Despite the sure thing of a real estate deal in today's economy, they will somehow find a way to eff it up.

Other than that, I agree that all three leaders and their parties, for that matter, are terribly flawed. I'm just saying, give the PCs a chance because we know what the Liberals can do and it aint any good.

Besides, there's no way Hudak is getting a majority so those insecure teachers, nurses and other public unionized employees who only think of themselves can rest easy even if he wins.

May 30, 2014 @ 11:04 AM


Right, Argie. Because when a leader says you could lose your job and you vote against that leader you are wrong to think for yourself.

Isn't voting for someone who promises to lower your taxes and your hydro bill a self-interested vote?

I don't think there are many people who vote without thinking of themself.

May 30, 2014 @ 11:10 AM


@Argie I sincerely hope that you are correct with one of your predictions: That Ontario will have a minority government election day +1. If Hudak becomes premier with a majority (newly released poll results suggest it), Ontario and Ontarians will suffer hard. Contrary to what Hudak "promises" health care will not and cannot go unscathed. He says he won't fire nurses, yet he wants to get rid of CCACs which have about 3,000 front line nurses working for them. I agree with this guest: vote for the person liable to do the least damage.

May 30, 2014 @ 11:18 AM


Blank ballot sounds good to me.

May 30, 2014 @ 11:20 AM


Its 100,000 through attrition and forced retirements. Its also a very small percent of the public employees in the province. He's not firing all of them - hmmm, that might be a good idea after all....

Actually it would be in my best interest if the Liberals win. Full time daycare benefits my family as does the fact our daughter's class has only 15 kids in it - despite the fact the teacher has an assistant and usually has a parent helping out each day. So yeah, my kid is in a class with a 1:5 teacher/student ratio. Its great for our kid but it sucks for the provinces' taxpayers.

May 30, 2014 @ 11:25 AM

4x4 Time

I agree our choices for Provincial Leadership are weak at best, but in light of all the inept spending, scandals, Police Investigations, crushing deficit something has too change to get this province back on track to fiscal responsibility.

Sadly, I think we will end up with exactly what we have now, but at least the PC's and NDP will have new leaders and maybe someone will emerge who will show real leadership with fresh plans and ideas to keep the Liberals in check and gain some confidence in Ontario voters moving forward.

Also, sure sounding like the Pan Am Games over spending is going to top the Gas Plant costs....

May 30, 2014 @ 11:56 AM


Again, 100 000 in retirements and attrition are not realistic numbers.

Everybody always hates the public sector. While not all public sector employees are pulling their weight, they are not likely the ones to get fired.

And for an organization with 400 employees, letting 40 go would be a big dent. If you use Tim's 10% theory.

May 30, 2014 @ 11:59 AM


@T.O Mike
As I read your fresh balls post, I half hoped you would create a contest post. I wonder how many real posts there would be?

@Corey et al.
I never knew about the blank ballot - thanks for presenting the option.

Finally, the KC Royals are in town this weekend. As the Jays are on a hot streak (last night aside), they may seem like an insignificant opponent. This is true. However, the Royals' coaching staff has one of the greatest baseball names of all time on it... RUSTY KUNTZ!

May 30, 2014 @ 12:02 PM

this guest

wynne is an animal of a different stripe
than mcguinty

i am not a liberal
but she seems as pro business as any conservative
and it's not in her bones
to fuck people over
like our current tea party candidate

May 30, 2014 @ 12:07 PM

this guest

hudak is like ford
he attracts the resentful
who want to teach others a lesson

all this fiscal responsibility is a smokescreen
for the desire to nail somebody somewhere
for something

like that drugged out hyprocrite ford
wanting to fire the kid dozing at the desk

so what else is new
about human nature
hitler was going to 'clean up the mess'
as well

May 30, 2014 @ 12:12 PM

4x4 Time

So, I stopped into a Starbucks just off the 400 in Barrie to grab a coffee on my way to a meeting in Huntsville. Parking lot is packed except for the two Handicap Spots in front. I find a spot further down, maybe 50 yards from Starbucks and pull in.

As I am walking to the store, I see a guy late 30’s I am guessing pulls into one of the Handicap spots. He jumps out of a very nice Infinity SUV, and certainly does not look handicapped.

For some reason, not sure why because I have never done this before I say something to him –
Me – “Hey man, not sure if you know but you’re in a Handicapped Spot”
Him – “Yeah, relax buddy I am a just grabbing a coffee” and in he goes.

I follow him, and he sits down and gets on his phone, I get in line and keep looking at him and thinking to myself “What a douche bag”

Him – What is your problem”

Me – “No problem, just wondering why you think you have a right to park in the Handicap Spot”

Him – “Oh, you’re one of those guys…. asshole”

I shake my head say nothing more, get my coffee and leave, and he is still on the phone sitting down, a space of 5 minutes max.

Was I wrong to say something to him?

May 30, 2014 @ 12:19 PM



Not wrong, I do it all the time. I usually take it one step further and, loud enough that the d-bag can hear, inform the manager that someone is blocking a handicap spot and that either gets the person a ticket or a red faced d-bag to move his vehicle.

Good for you 4x$, we need more people like you.

May 30, 2014 @ 12:24 PM

519 Rob

@4x4 - You were totally right to do what you did. And like Anon said, maybe next time even louder.

May 30, 2014 @ 12:30 PM

James Edgar

"Right, Argie. Because when a leader says you could lose your job and you vote against that leader you are wrong to think for yourself.

Isn't voting for someone who promises to lower your taxes and your hydro bill a self-interested vote?

I don't think there are many people who vote without thinking of themself."

You Nailed it.

Pointing at others and saying there selfinterst is somehow wrong while yours is the moral high road? Hypocrisy.

May 30, 2014 @ 12:35 PM

Ryan G

4X4 - good on you man.

The only way these pricks will have the opportunity to learn what they're doing is wrong, is when people point it out to them. I say "opportunity to learn" because typically this sort of behaviour is hard-wired, and they'll never change their ways. But it's like buying a lottery ticket - if you remained silent there's zero chance he'll change his behaviour.

Like a few others here, in public I point out lapses in common courtesy all the time. You don't have to get into a scrap about it - just say your piece calmly and leave it at that.

It's our duty as the enlightened, to educate the ignorant.

May 30, 2014 @ 12:59 PM


@this guest
So, just so we're all up to speed - in the past few weeks, you've compared Hudak to Harris, Ford and now Hitler. Allrighty then.

May 30, 2014 @ 1:12 PM


@ this guest

Any time anyone compares someone to Hitler their argument is complete crap.

I dislike Hudak but using his policies and Hilter's in the same paragraph is just foolish.

May 30, 2014 @ 1:29 PM


4x4 - thumbs up to you

its Humorous that he thought you were the asswhole for pointing it out :)

May 30, 2014 @ 1:35 PM

this guest

@ Argie

no. I didn't compare hudak to hitler. you need to read more carefully.
I referred to the idea of 'nailing somebody for something somewhere.'
I also referred to hypocrisy.

I referred to human nature as often seeking a punitive route in order
to make sense of it all.

I spoke in shorthand but as always on the internet one needs to be black
and white.

read more carefully.

but if you want to compare tea party philosophers to the national socialism
policies of the third recih I'm sure you
will find some interesting reading.

but yes certainly I draw a comparison between harris and hudak, ford and hudak.
most certainly.

May 30, 2014 @ 1:35 PM


@this guest
The Nazis were a fascist/socialist regime. The tea party movement is made up mostly of anti-govt libertarians. They're in fact total opposites.

May 30, 2014 @ 1:42 PM

this guest

aside from acknowledging a typo
I'll also point out that

'cleaning up the mess' with punitive policies
often leads to a bigger mess.
that was what the offhand comment about hitler

but since hukak's economist is one of the tea party (south of the border)
guiding lights perhaps it is not unfair to recognize extremist tendencies
in the Tory Tea Party.

May 30, 2014 @ 1:42 PM

this guest

jesse ventura types are libertarians
but the koch brothers (high priests of the Tea Party)
are corporatists
(all power and glory to corporations)

and what was the definition of corporatism
+ authoritarian government
as spoken by mussolini?


May 30, 2014 @ 1:44 PM


Hudak took a sharp right turn when he should be merging into traffic. He should be running away with this election and the fact that he cannot even see that is unbelievable.

As I said earlier, 'None of the Above' sounds good to me.

May 30, 2014 @ 1:58 PM

this guest

I enjoy going back and forth with Argie
but my share of space is over
the limit so
I shall exit this thread

whatever argument is our guiding light
through life it's all over
in the blink of an eye
so we might as well try to enjoy

May 30, 2014 @ 2:10 PM


I never knew this! In the past I have spoiled my ballot by writing in 'None of the Above' and ticking a checkmark beside it.
Perhaps this time I will cast an empty vote, because, like you, I want to excercise my right, and believe it is very important to do so - but i dont want to vote for ANY of the candidates/parties.

May 30, 2014 @ 2:34 PM

Ben Vidal

anyone listen to the audio of that asshole Julian Fantino running away from a vets wife. Or anyone have an issue with our federal government spending more on tv ads that they care about our vets than on our actual vets?

May 30, 2014 @ 3:53 PM


@GUNTer, Sammi, headsup and anyone else interested in the "blank ballot" option, there is one more important distinction to make; you don't drop the blank ballot in the ballot box. You physically return it, and they have to immediately mark it on the back "Declined" (essentially "None of the above") and preserve it for counting. Dropping a blank ballot into the box would probably get it counted as spoiled.
Elections Ontario doesn't seem to be too eager to advertise this option, probably because it has the potential to be embarrassing, but here it is, right out of the Election Act:

Section 53 of Ontario’s Election Act states as follows:

“Declined ballot
53. An elector who has received a ballot and returns it to the deputy returning officer declining to vote, forfeits the right to vote and the deputy returning officer shall immediately write the word “declined” upon the back of the ballot and preserve it to be returned to the returning officer and shall cause an entry to be made in the poll record that the elector declined to vote.
R.S.O. 1990, c. E.6, s. 53.”

May 30, 2014 @ 5:05 PM

Lyle Lanley

Surely it's best to pick the least of the evils and vote with that party.

Declining a ballot is awfully extreme.

May 30, 2014 @ 5:28 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

I normally bike west along the waterfront trail, but today I went east as far as Kew Gardens in the beaches.

I must say, other than the construction between Bathurst and Bay, the Martin Goodman Trail is pretty awesome. I biked 25 km there and 25 km back and it was safe, fast and scenic.

When the construction the aforementioned constructions zone is complete next year, it's going to be pretty sweet.

May 30, 2014 @ 5:32 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


I can help you. I sent you an email.

May 30, 2014 @ 5:38 PM


If Kathleen Wynne forms the next government I believe it will be next to imposable to remove them from power. There are too many special interests who are beholden to the Liberal Party in this province. It will be much like the Conservative Party in Alberta who has a strangle hold there.

There were a few public sector unions who successfully negotiated in their collective bargaining agreements that the Province pick up the tab on the Health Care Premium. How many do you think will want to pay the Ontario Pension Fund deduction on their paychecks?

By the way the teachers contracts are up this summer after 2 years of "austerity". They'll want massive raises after helping Wynne become Premier. But do you think we'll have labour peace after this election?

I give you one guess.

Yeah, Tim Hudak is history's greatest monster.

May 30, 2014 @ 6:18 PM



Mike's Ride for Cancer is next weekend & you are all probably sick & tired of me commenting on this. Too bad it means a lot to Mike especially with the passing of his buddy Mike Kic (who donated for his own cause.)

Gotta get to $ 5000.00 - the Golden Goal.


May 30, 2014 @ 6:23 PM


Hudak's math is laughably flawed.

The half million jobs the Progressive Conservatives were promising to create with their plan (base-case economic growth was expected to provide the other half-million jobs) was really only about 75,000—fewer than the 100,000 public-sector jobs they were pledging to eliminate.

May 30, 2014 @ 6:34 PM

Tim Legere

Hey Mike!

What did you think of the defeat of Bill C-560 on Equal Parenting?


May 30, 2014 @ 7:11 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Tim Legere

I must confess, I wasn't following it.

Why do you think it was defeated?

May 30, 2014 @ 7:22 PM


as expected from our right wing government. How is it that only right wing governments in north america dont believe in climate change?!?!?

May 30, 2014 @ 8:12 PM

this guest

a blank vote is essentially a lost vote against the
what you politically oppose.

If you vote for Hudak's math maybe you can swing by the Ford
campaign office and make a donation with all that money you'll
be saving.

May 30, 2014 @ 8:27 PM

Tim Legere


The bill advocated a "rebuttable presumption" that upon separation/divorce that the courts would most commonly award joint child custody (i.e. a 50/50 "split" in time between the parents) except in cases of abuse, etc. Of course parents would be encouraged to come up with their own "Parenting Plans". I believe the bill failed because the Canadian Bar Association (CBA) stated that it elevated the desires of Parents OVER the paramount "Best Interests of the Child". In my opinion it IS in the best interests of every Child to maximize the time they spent (e.g. equally) with both of their loving and able parents. In polls over 80% of Canadians agree with "Shared Parenting" and the support is identical across party lines. Also, although it was a Private Members Bill, a number of NDP and Liberal opponents thought it was an important enough topic to be brought up as a major government bill to allow for longer debate and discussion. Even though the PC's had the numbers to pass the Bill they had a large number of members vote against their own bill (you can see who in the Government Hansard).

May 30, 2014 @ 8:31 PM

Tim Legere


Here's one link to a story in the National Post (by Barbara Kay) the day before the debate/vote.


May 30, 2014 @ 8:35 PM


Well, seems like I am not wanted here. In the last open Mike, I wasn't trying to hurt anyone, just stating an opinion and getting yelled at for it. Well, I'm leaving the blog. Not coming back. Why should I. Anyway, see you guys and the Habs will win the cup next year.

May 30, 2014 @ 9:08 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


You should stay.

I'm in charge, and that's an order.

May 30, 2014 @ 9:10 PM

this guest

please stay Cheryl.

I cheered for the Habs too.

p.s. a few minutes ago on the other Open Mike I pointed out
that you wished the best for Twins
from Bolton.

You wished the best for somebody having difficulty.

That's a good thing Cheryl.

May 30, 2014 @ 9:27 PM



@Mike is in charge so you're duty bound to do as he asks. And, because he's a good guy and you wouldn't want to upset him.

May 30, 2014 @ 9:46 PM

twins from bolton

@ Cheryl

I do appreciate your good luck wishes for my son who is Sick but not Weak you said on Tuesdays Open Mike.

When you said suicide is STUPID it was like a dagger in my heart with what I have gone through the last year.

If you you leave I will miss U.

May 30, 2014 @ 9:56 PM


If Kathleen Wynne isn't held accountable on June 12th she will be able to get away with anything over the coming decade. Everyone seems to forget the watered down chemo drug scandal from last year.

You are being naive if you think there won't be public sector layoffs under a Wynne government. She says she wants to get rid of the deficit within 3 years. Where is she going to find 12.5 billion a year in the budget? Not to mention there is the small matter of the debt which we still have to finance at 11 billion a year.

I tell you one way she'll do it besides layoffs. You will see the HST increased by 1% and remember that 10 cent a litre gas tax that was floated last year? You will be paying that as well. But that's ok It's only low income families who will feel it the most. Did I mention that they will also being paying hundreds of dollars a year into an Ontario Pension Plan?

How's the traffic congestion in the GTA lately? But that's not the fault of the Liberals either is it?

Nothing is.

May 30, 2014 @ 10:07 PM

this guest

@twins from bolton:

I really hope this all works out for you and yours in the most wonderful way possible.
I didn't mention it before but this situation (in a milder form than we've been
discussing) is not unknown to me.
Not me personally but somebody I care about deeply.
It's got me sort of freaked out to be honest thinking of the ramifications.

May 30, 2014 @ 10:21 PM


Okay. I'll stay. I just hope that I don't get attacked. Okay, so I was a little harsh as well. I remember being told that there is no problem big enough, but that's okay. Guess I never should have said that.

May 31, 2014 @ 8:09 AM


Anonymous @ 17:05 was me.

Lyle - what happens when there is no "lesser" of three evils? Declining my ballot is a valid option. That's what I'm doing.

May 31, 2014 @ 8:47 AM


Yes! Cheryl stays! Love it.

May 31, 2014 @ 9:19 AM

Rick C in Oakville

@Glen: Good points. Ontario has the worst Net Debt to Revenue ratio in Canada, far ahead of Quebec, Quoted from the article. "Both parties should take note of the latest from Moody’s, which puts net debt as a percentage of revenue at 237.7 in the 2014-15 fiscal year, the highest in the country. Not only the highest, actually, but far and away above the next in line, Quebec, at 189.5."

With debt approaching $300 billion, want to bet Wynne will renege on all the spending promises if she is re-elected?
With no recovery in manufacturing in sight, how are the Liberals going to generate enough revenue to counter this? Not by creating more Public Sector jobs.
I'm not a fan of Hudak (but a Conservative supporter), but the Liberals best before date expired with McGuinty.
Remember the last time voters were disenchanted and Bob Rae was elected, a huge disaster for the provinces finance's and just as hard on the public sector.

May 31, 2014 @ 9:28 AM

Rick C in Oakville

Meant to applaud 4x4 time on confronting the a-hole handicap parker. Not sure if this is possible, but if you were to photograph the vehicle with the licence plate, is it possible to file it with the Police to at least have a Community Officer call and have a chat with the individual? But given the attitude of the individual, other than a huge monetary fine, probably wouldn't make a dent in his a-hole armour.

May 31, 2014 @ 9:35 AM

Hey Glen

Or is that Cerebus from SOWNY, while you are ranting about the GDP to Debt ratios why not mention of the Federal Government? In 2008, the ratio was 31%, it's now over 39%. Why aren't you shouting and screaming that Harper is bankrupting Canada? I also googled the debt ratio in Quebec and according to Macleans Magazine it's much higher than Ontario at 49% and also higher on a per capita ratio. Maybe you should turn off your opinion spouting mouth, put down the camera and actually learn something. You are a misinformed voter.

The rise of deficits and debt in both Ontario and Canada nearly mirrors each other. The answer is simple. Our largest trading partner had it's economy wiped off the map nearly 10 years ago. It's banking system crashed, it's housing market melted down & it's job market is relegated to selling pizza or cooking meth. Ontario trades heavily with the USA and was adversely affected.

Try shutting your yap, turning off your computer and actually learning something Cerebus.

May 31, 2014 @ 11:53 AM

This guest

Yay Cheryl.

May 31, 2014 @ 2:07 PM

Dawn Keibals

Heard the BEST quote EVER today:

"Qatar World Cup Soccer/2022 they can build an entire city in 9 years but Toronto can’t fix 3 kms of the Gardiner in 2 years?"

May 31, 2014 @ 4:06 PM



We aren't fighting a federal election despite the left's attempt to bring Harper into this PROVINCIAL election. But to your point. The feds can print money and lower interest rates through the Bank of Canada. They have more maneuverability than the provinces does. You should ask your friend Wynne why she was campaigning with Paul Martin, the finance minster who brought in austerity in the early 90s because of the debt. He cut the budgets of each Federal department by an average of 10% and downloaded many services to the provinces. He also cut personal income and corporate taxes.
Gosh, that sounds familiar.

Are you thee asshole who insulted my girlfriend safely behind an anonymous username last week like your doing now?

If so go fuck yourself, coward.

May 31, 2014 @ 6:19 PM

Hey Glen

Well if the Federal government can print money & control the Central Bank wouldn't they (Harper) have a smaller debt ratio not a higher one? Why do you assume I am a Wynne supporter anyway? I simply pointed out that you are not an informed voter. You're just another raging idiot who has that Bush mentality of if you aren't with us you're against us. I pointed out your flawed data and you accuse me of being a Wynne sympathizer.

May 31, 2014 @ 8:41 PM



I was pointing out it's far more dangerous for a province like Ontario to have a massive debt than a country like Canada.

I don't support the printing of money to pay off debts or finance a country. That's called Zimbabwe.

But I'm also not against deficit financing. You can't build a subway or a nuclear power plant without incurring debt. However the Liberal government refuses to acknowledge the seriousness of our current debt problems. The bond rating agencies have already downgraded Ontarios rating last year. That makes it even MORE expensive to borrow money.

Jeffrey Simpsons column in todays Globe and Mail on this very subject.

May 31, 2014 @ 9:18 PM


Check out Darcy Oake on Britain got talent.
In the final with his illusions.

He is Scott Oake's son from Hockey Night in Cda.

May 31, 2014 @ 9:41 PM


Well, I already voted. You see, I vote in the advanced poll as it is less busy and easier for me to get a ride to the poll. I voted for Glen Murray. Yes, I voted Liberal, but that's my choice. Don't attack me for it. I don't think any of the others would have been any better. I haven't met Glen Murray, but my trainer has so I voted for him. As for the Stanley cup, I have a bet with my dad. He wants whoever wins the west. That means I have the Rangers. If the Rangers win, I get $5.00.

June 1, 2014 @ 8:07 AM


It couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

Charles Sousa has a meltdown at All-Candidates Debate when confronted with the Liberals rein of corruption at Queen's Park.

June 1, 2014 @ 11:46 AM

Hey Glen

Why is it more dangerous for a province to have debt than a country? Please explain. How do you know the Liberals do not take the debt seriously? If they didn't then they would have had no regard for the deficit, right?

Glen, why not just be honest with us? You are a PC partisan and nothing the Liberals could do would satisfy you. Your comments are not that of a thinking man; they're that of a person who believes his opinions are correct and to hell with others.

Every post you've made has contained inaccurate facts Glen. You have the internet at least look it up. When you are challenged with facts you meander off on some crazy tangent that Federal debt is less of a problem than provincial debt. I remember the day when right-wing meant intelligent & pro business. Today it too often attracts blathering idiots with zero education.

Do us a favour Cerebus go back to SOWNY.

June 1, 2014 @ 11:50 AM


@ Hey Glen...who is the Liberal party attracting?

June 1, 2014 @ 2:28 PM

Hey Glen

Why don't you tell me Victor? My attack on this Glen guy is because he oh so represents the new right-wing of today. There was a time when being right-wing meant you were educated & articulate. Today they're represented by loud boorish leaders like Rob Ford, media trolls like Ezra Levant and the trash that is now talk radio. They simply reguritate simple slogans and try to sell it as a plan. Glen is part of that problem. He stands on the mountain top shouting his opinions at people. When you present proof his opinions are wrong he veers off course unable to admit he was incorrect. This man is an example of everything that is wrong with the modern day right-wing. He's everything that is wrong with the modern day voter.

I follow Glen on Twitter and I found a great example of his logic. He seems to blame Kathleen Wynne because he can't buy a bottle of wine in No Frills. Strange, but the LCBO and the Beer Store have existed as long as I can remember. How is she at fault for that? Why not blame McSquinty? Why not blame Mike Harris for that? Both leaders had 2 terms to make changes but did not. Now suddenly it's Wynnes fault?

June 1, 2014 @ 5:58 PM

twins from bolton

Just found out that my youngest son (2 minutes later than other) is going to a Papa & me a Grandpa. He got married last August & just finishing studies at Univ. of Ottawa & Wifey graduated this year. He & wife are very religious & as he said "children are the gift of God". It wasn't planned but just happened. Due date is 2 weeks after day he was born & 6 days after my Bday,

I'm shocked but not surprised.

June 1, 2014 @ 6:08 PM


Just so everyone knows, "hey glen" is Irvine.

Of course he will deny it but its him.

June 1, 2014 @ 6:53 PM

Hey Glen

You're goddamn right Argie. I am Irvine and I'm coming from Calgary on my bike to go gangster on everyone. Alberta rules over Ontario. Alberta forever. Don't you know I'm really James Bond.

June 1, 2014 @ 8:34 PM


Congratulations to your son, Twins. Hope it's a healthy baby. Anyway, just bought my audio league pass for my Arizona Cardinals. They're going to win the Superbowl I hope. That would be a good thing. Now all that's on except for two teams that are left in hockey boring baseball.

June 1, 2014 @ 8:47 PM


What a great evasion of the question, hey Glen. Well done.

June 1, 2014 @ 10:00 PM


Well, it's Rangers and Kings. I hope the Rangers win so I get my $5.00. It will go seven games. Well, my Cardinals start on September 8 so that is a bit over three months from now. I wish there was a summer hockey league. Well, the ice wouldn't be great, but maybe a summer floor hockey league so we would still have hockey in the summer.

June 2, 2014 @ 10:48 AM

this guest

Glen has blamed kathleen wynne for the chemo blood 'scandal'
(mistake? error? procedural snafu?)
which is odd because it's not a result of a policy decision
such as deregulating water safety which is the crowning
achievement of the harris govt leading to deaths in walkerton

June 3, 2014 @ 6:57 AM

this guest

which other country is printing money to pay off debts and stay afloat and
do all those 'marvelous' international things they do.
which big western powerhouse country.

June 3, 2014 @ 7:52 AM

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