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Al The Royal Pain

If anyone is up in the Bradford area tonight, The Royal Pains are playing at the Don Cherry's up there. We start at 9pm.

The Toronto Mike offer is in effect. Anyone who comes up to me at a show and tells me he/she is a TM commenter, will receive one drink bought by me...yes, even if your handle is Argie. ;)

May 9, 2014 @ 8:58 AM


RIP, Lee Marshall, voice of "Tony the Tiger". You were Grrrreat!

May 9, 2014 @ 9:26 AM

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I'm gonna let you finish, but Thurl Ravenscroft was the best Tony the Tiger of all time.

May 9, 2014 @ 9:29 AM


I just saw Karen Stintz at an Aroma near my office. I desperately wanted to go up to her and say "I don't know what Ford sees in you..."

May 9, 2014 @ 9:30 AM

Ryan G

I work in an open office environment for a large company. It's a bit like a busy freeway, with various employees from other parts of the campus walking through our department at any given time.

Generally, I would think that as you walk around any office area, if you're walking with a colleague and talking, you'd keep the volume fairly low, so as to not disturb anyone else working, on the phone,etc.

At my work however, there's one twat who consistently walks through our department speaking at full volume, and each time he comes through, people in our area are jolted away from what they're doing. "Ya so Bill in accounting emailed me about the T-650 budget and boy oh boy he had some discrepancies and Judy over in HR is re-structuring the benefits plan and..."

I wonder about guys like this, I really do. What's the deal? He's about 6'7, so I'm wondering if he feels his awkward gigantism gives him license to trumpet his shite all over the place. Also, he's extremely white. The classic nerdy, buttoned down look - loafers and khaki's with perfectly parted hair on the side and glasses a la Clark Kent.

But I've got a plan. One of these days I'm gonna follow this bastard. I'm gonna follow him all over until he gets back to his own department. And I don't care how long I have to tail him. Maybe he'll first stop at the cafeteria for a coffee and a fucking croissant. Maybe he'll pop over to see Hal in Engineering to show him his new Moleskin fucking notebook.

But just out of sight, I'll be there.

I'll follow this chump's ass all day, happily skipping meetings and ignoring my own work.

Then, when I see him nestled quietly back into his own department, I'll walk through with a fucking trombone and go to town. I should add that I don't know how to play a trombone.

After five minutes or so, I'll stop. And with everyone in his department staring at me, I'll drop my trombone - you know, rapper style dropping a microphone - and look at him. Only him. As I walk away, I'll begin to whistle merrily, and I'll know that my work is done.

May 9, 2014 @ 9:44 AM


@ Rayan - if you could please have the presence of mind to set up a video camera for this moment....that sounds like something I'd want to see.....

May 9, 2014 @ 9:51 AM


That should have been @ Ryan....

May 9, 2014 @ 9:52 AM


Ryan G - you just made my day with that post! moleskin fucking notebook. hahahahrhrhrhrhrhrhhrrhrh
there's one dick in every office.

May 9, 2014 @ 10:07 AM

Sam in Pickering

It looks like we'll have the same final four in the NHL this year.

No doubt who the top teams are.

We have our blueprint, Leaf fans.

May 9, 2014 @ 10:08 AM


All these Leaf fans who are up in arms about the fact that Carlyle got an extension kill me. I group those people with the #FireGibby group. These "fans" are so quick to dump the coach or GM but leave the players blameless, as though they had nothing to do with it.

Does anyone seriously think the Leafs will all of a sudden be Cup contenders with a different coach or GM? Face it, these players are either (a) not good enough, and/or (b) need more time to develop. If you keep changing the person at the wheel then you won't get anywhere. Come up with a plan, stick with it, see it through to the end.

May 9, 2014 @ 10:25 AM

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Ok, so don't fire him... but why extend him?

May 9, 2014 @ 10:27 AM

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And to answer my own question, there's only one reason to do so. It buys Brendan Shanahan time.

May 9, 2014 @ 10:29 AM


I come from a loud family. My Dad is loud, my Mum is loud, my brother is a loud (there are hearing issues). Therefore I am a Seinfeld-ian "loud talker".
My co-worker is also a loud talker. Together when we are talking, we basically scream at each other. It is probably terrible for others, but we are oblivious. However, once in a while I recognize this and do the classic "tone down" hand gesture and we re-start the discussion, but at a lower decibel setting. We try to be quieter and sometimes the self-awareness is there.
Your co-worker could be similar. He is (most) probably aware of it, he just isn't hyper vigilant about it.
So instead of being a passive-aggressive dick about it, just talk to him about it. He will (most) probably be grateful for the 'heads-up' and try to be more aware of it.

May 9, 2014 @ 10:35 AM


@Toronto Mike,

I don't know, maybe because he's a good coach??? One bad season doesn't make him a bad coach. He needs more time and Nonis needs to get better players.

May 9, 2014 @ 10:38 AM

Ryan G


Please tell me where you work. I'll stop off at Long & McQuade first.

May 9, 2014 @ 10:40 AM

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We disagree on that one.

Yes, he won a cup with a very good Anaheim team, but I don't have confidence in his "compete harder, boys!" coaching style.

May 9, 2014 @ 10:40 AM


Well, the Habs lost last night. I was waiting and waiting for someone to score, nobody did. Both goalies were hot. Well, I was right. The Bruins won. Habs will win tomorrow. Bruins win on Monday and Habs win on Wednesday. I've been right all along and I'll continue to be right. Then beat the Pens and the Kings to win the cup.

May 9, 2014 @ 10:41 AM


Tim Hudak says he would cut 100 000 public sector jobs. While I know some people will cheer a plan like this and think it’s the best thing ever since every single public sector work is lazy, greedy and doesn’t actually do a real job but if 100 000 people lost their job, what would that do to unemployment? You think there is a problem now? Imagine 100 000 people all looking for work.

Remember the “public sector” isn’t all about people at desks doing nothing. There are engineers, police, teachers, heath care, firefighters….

Anyway, I am not sure how that fits into a Million Jobs plan.

May 9, 2014 @ 10:56 AM

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And apparently there's only 92,000 jobs, so he'll have to hire 8,000 to cut the 100,000.

May 9, 2014 @ 10:57 AM


@ McNulty - Although I clearly come down on the anti union/public sector side of things, you are right, that would be detrimental to our economy.

And it isn't the jobs I want cut, it's the guaranteed raises, promotions and job security (no matter what you do wrong) that bug me.

May 9, 2014 @ 11:27 AM


The only people who are happy about an Ontario pension Plan are the governors of Tennessee and North Carolina. The economic development agencies of those states probably have Ontario Budget Google alerts. They are laughing at us. You don't think they aren't phoning GM, or Magna, or other manufacturers right this second telling them to come down here, we don't have state pension payroll taxes, HST, health care premiums, and expensive hydro rates. They won't be assembling cars in in Ontario in 10 years. The high tech sector despite the massive government subsidies (hello Open Text) will find it cheaper to hire workers in North Carolina. We've already lost over 380, 000 manufacturing jobs since 2004 in Ontario. How many more will disappear? Good morning Unilever.

It gets even worse.

Thousands of people will need to be hired by the provincial government to run the Ontario Pension Plan all earning public sector wages and benefits. Not only that but another huge voting bloc will be created beholden to the Liberal Party of Ontario forever. FOREVER.

Yeah, Tim Hudak is scary.

May 9, 2014 @ 11:31 AM


@ Glen - Bravo! SO true, Ontario's manufacturing sector is being decimated, and Corporations are pulling a lot of sales and marketing offices out of Ontario as well, but as long as the welfare state keeps getting their money, the economy will be fine....right guys?

May 9, 2014 @ 11:40 AM



Now I say this because the number of Americans who identify as middle class has never been lower. And if you don't believe me, just go shopping. The stores like Sears and Penny's that always catered to the middle market are dying. But you know who's doing great? Tiffany's and Gucci and Cartier for the Marie Antoinette crowd. And the dollar store for people who don't see a problem with Halloween candy in June.

I mean, just think of how many dollar places there are now. The Dollar Store. Dollar Tree. Dollar General. Dollar Giant. Family Dollar. The 99¢ Store. The 98¢ Store.

Where does it end? Just a homeless guy handing out expired toothpaste for free? But that's our economy now. You're either buying Rembrandts or Chinese cosmetics made from dirt. But in the middle, tough times. True of restaurants as well. The moderately priced ones, like Applebee's, Red Lobster, and Olive Garden, are all in trouble because they've lost their best customers — people with a little money who fill up on bread. They're the restaurants that say, "I still love you, baby, but just barely."

50 years ago, America's biggest employer was General Motors, where workers made the modern equivalent of $50 dollars an hour. Today, America's biggest employer is Walmart, where the average wage is $8 dollars an hour. Which means you can share a room in a transient hotel with a drifter who cuts his toenails with a machete.

And Walmart released their annual report this month, and in it was the fact that most of what Walmart sells is food. And most of their customers need food stamps to pay for it. Meanwhile, Walmart's owners are so absurdly rich that one of them, Alice Walton, spent over a billion dollars building an art museum in Bentonville, Arkansas, 500 miles away from the nearest person who ever would want to look at art.

And she said about it, "For years I've been thinking about what we can do as a family that can really make a difference." How about giving your employees a raise, you deluded nitwit?

And what we are seeing now as the income inequality increases is a lot of Americans who work hard and play by the rules starting to not play by the rules. At a McDonald's in Pittsburgh, an employee was arrested for selling heroin packed right in with the Happy Meals. And she didn't do it because she likes heroin — although it's probably no worse for you than the filet o' fish. She did it because you can't raise two kids on $7.72 an hour.

Yes Tim Hudak is scary. His ideas have no basis in reality. Do we want the population of Ontario to only be able to shop at dollar stores and discount retailers because they can't afford anything else?

May 9, 2014 @ 11:49 AM


Way off Philly Bob. Again. The manufacturing sector has been decimated as a result of a strong Canadian dollar and the economic downturn of 4 years ago. Not all financial crashes mean that every business closes up shop the next day. I think you may be just as deluded as Michelle Bachman. You call yourself a centrist and you say things like that.

You want to work for 5 dollars an hour? You want no benefits? You want to be able to only shop at Walmart?

The people at caterpillar that were fired when they closed up shop. Were they supposed to accept a 50% pay decrease? Should people work for the peanuts they pay out in North Carolina?

Give your head a shake you nit wit.

As for energy costs that's a bullshit argument. It's the Canadian dollar. Do both of you need a lesson in economics and buying power?

Do you have any idea what kind of welfare state the US is in with food stamps? Please do some homework.

Also that mantra that you only have to work hard and you'll go places doesn't apply anymore. Not in an economy that exists on minimum wages.

May 9, 2014 @ 11:55 AM


@ Glen

So every job lost in Ontario is the fault of the Liberal government? It isn't the fault of the companies.

Also, in respect to the HST, you do know that the Federal Government takes 5 percent, right?

And Unilever is going to Missouri. Of course it is cheaper to manufacture goods there. It's Missouri.

May 9, 2014 @ 11:55 AM



In little over 10 years Ontario debt will be 1/2 trillion dollars. Which means the Ontario government will spend $25 billion a year to finance it. That's more than what we spend on education in this province currently.
What happens to the the people you mentioned when the debt agencies start calling Ontario?
You think the 100, 000 announced by Hudak is frightening? Try having unelected bond holders in Zurich making ALL the decisions for the Province. They won't give a damn about the homeless guy on Yonge Street.

If Kathleen Wynne get a minority or majority in this election the Liberals will be in power over 17 years at the end of the mandate. Will Mike Harris be responsible for the congestion in Toronto then or the income disparity in this province?

You talk as if Tim Hudak has been in power all these years. That's biazzre.

May 9, 2014 @ 12:11 PM

Ben Vidal

@Glen: I think it's scare tactics to say that in 10 years this is what will happen to Ontario. There are plenty of forecast models out there that say that or say the opposite. I'd like to understand though how you increase productivity in a province or country and the general well being of the populace by cutting jobs, eliminating social spending, enable lower wages or at least ensure they don't keep up with inflation. The end result is a people who can't afford to buy anything or own anything. Hudaks hard line stance has yet to be proven successful anywhere.

Can you also explain how Hudak can say no more corporate welfare. I hate it's disgusting and it's a waste of tax payers money. If a business can't survive on it's own it's not up to us to support them. Then literally out of the other corner of his mouth say, if I'm elected there will be big tax cuts for corporations and business'.... Say what? The two things are identical.

May 9, 2014 @ 12:30 PM


I have never been a political person but I am a public servant and Tim Hudak scares me. I know we are seen as lazy and useless but a lot of public servants are hard working ,proud tax payers. I have not had a raise in three years and the yearly raises before that did not even equal the increased cost of living. We are not the solution to the debt problem. You want to lower the debt level? Legalize marijuana. Tax the shit out of it and sell it in liquor stores

May 9, 2014 @ 12:35 PM



But if Kathleen Wynne had announced at a press conference that Unilever was staying because of a subsidy given to it by the Ontario Government she would have taken credit for it.

Which one is it?

You can't have it both ways.

May 9, 2014 @ 12:37 PM

Ben Vidal

@ Tim: While I agree with you, I'm also as far left wing as Fox is right wing. It's unfortunate there is this undertone that thinks public service workers are expendable and lazy. The same ones that hate teachers and think their children have nothing but stupid lazy teachers who are coddled and get massive pensions(which they pay for) and summers off.

Also sorry to hear that you haven't had a raise in three years, it's a shitty situation.

May 9, 2014 @ 12:44 PM


Tim Hudak has a chance to earn my vote, cutting 100,000 jobs is not a good start.

May 9, 2014 @ 12:46 PM


I am a high school teacher by trade (sports broadcaster on the sid e). Who the heck am I going to vote for in the Ontario election?

The NDP, who turned their back on their own budget and don't seem to have a clue or a plan.

The Liberals, whom teachers battled with all last year, thus making those teachers who vote for Liberals a tad hypocritical?

The PC's with Tiny Tim, who basically are looking to gut the public system, and who managed to screw up an election last time that was there's for the taking.

Who is the lesser of three evils?

May 9, 2014 @ 12:58 PM


@ Glen

She didn't. So what's your point? You didn't even address my questions. And how clever, McNutty....way to keep it a civil conversation.

May 9, 2014 @ 12:59 PM



I apologize.

That wasn't a slight. It was a spelling mistake caused by not wearing my reading glasses.

I didn't mean any offense.

Debate is great. Bring it on.

May 9, 2014 @ 1:19 PM


@ Glen

Hudak's plan has been proven it won't work. You can unilaterally cut jobs, cut spending and give corporate tax cuts and expect the economy to improve.

Remember when McGuinty said that business would pass on the savings from the HST on to the consumer? I do! And it didn't.
The same would happen with more tax cuts. There is no guarantee they will reinvest into the province.
However, with grants, they have no choice but to do what they say they will do with more jobs and more investment. I'd rather see a grant.

Hudak and Horwath all plan to lower energy bills. They don't actually say how. Hudak's claim he will end the subsidies is ludicrous. He can't. If he does he breaks contracts and a billion dollar gas plant scandal will look like nothing.
He wants more's cheaper (it's not). The capital cost of a nuclear plant is at least 40 billion dollars.
And remember, Ontario doesn't have the highest energy price in Canada. That's just false.

May 9, 2014 @ 2:04 PM

this guest

tim hudak took an electric typewriter to woodstock

May 9, 2014 @ 2:35 PM

4x4 Time

I have heard more than a few people ask as @SteveO has “Who is the lesser of three evils?”. As there certainly is no current candidate or party that has my confidence, my vote will be either PC or NDP. This is entirely because I cannot trust a thing the Liberals say and certainly do not want these criminals spending my tax dollars based on their inept history and vague budget spending concepts of expenses we cannot afford. Both Hudak and Horvath seem conflicted on what to do and how to do it and have no real on target message to voters, so they are no saviors. It is actually a sad state of affairs for us Ontarians.

All I know is if I keep going to the same restaurant, and the food keeps getting worse each visit, I go to a new restaurant

May 9, 2014 @ 3:23 PM


@McNulty (I really wanted to refer to you as 'McNutty')

You know as well I as I do most of the BS that Hudak spouts is just that - BS. Some is good and some is bad but even if he were to get a majority (fat chance), he wouldn't implement it. Just look at Harper. Much of what he and Flaherty promised has never come to fruition.

Speaking of Flaherty - he's the guy behind the Common Sense Rev, not Hidak. Hudak was in his 20s sucking his way up the PC ladder.

On an unrelated matter, can we make it law that only people under the age of 10 can bring a baseball glove to a Jays game???

May 9, 2014 @ 3:30 PM


@ Argie - I agree with your proposed law, with one exception. If you are attending a game with a person under the age 10, then the law is null (so if I go to the game with my son, we can both bring our gloves).


May 9, 2014 @ 3:37 PM


@Ryan G

Funniest post in a good long time. Loved it. The loud fucker in your office sounds like an officious douche. Trombone his ass. I can't remember who said you're passive aggressive - whatever. Sounds like you've just enough and have one nerve left - and the loud guy is jumping up and down on it.

@Anonymous at 11:49

Strong post. I have worked extensively in the States and what you say is true.

Now, if we can only hear more bullshit about fucking Seger and the fucking Habs life will be entirely complete.

May 9, 2014 @ 3:55 PM


@ Argie

Politics - I agree. Hudak probably would only follow through on some of it if he had a majority. And the likelyhood of that is about as likely as Rob Ford marching in the Pride Parade with Sandro Lisi in a stroller.

Baseball Games - It should be a law! Maybe as old as 13. Any adult walking into a game alone with a glove better be on the field. I'd allow Phil's exemption though, with the caveat that any ball caught must be immediately given to the child.

May 9, 2014 @ 3:56 PM


Phil & McNulty
OK, I'll allow the caveat.

Like my friend Bo Seger always says "we were running against the wind.." (that's for Liz)

May 9, 2014 @ 4:02 PM


Go Jays, go! Make it 6 in a row, keep hitting those bombs.

May 9, 2014 @ 4:09 PM


@ McNulty - Agreed on bumping the age to 13, and yes, if I caught a ball, it would immediately be handed over to my son.

@ Liz - I've always been partial to the Metallica version of Turn the Page, and for at least the next 2 games...I'm a Bruins Fan!!!

May 9, 2014 @ 4:16 PM


I have a delightful lunch with @Liz today.

I'd like to hear more about curling. Throw in the Segar and Habs and I might be one of those wishing I had a roommate who could cut their toenails with a machete.

May 9, 2014 @ 4:49 PM

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Was this near the H+F studio? I heard Liz was in attendance.

I could have biked over to lunch with you guys!

May 9, 2014 @ 4:51 PM


@ Ryan
Trombone is a true comedy image, and you utilized it well.

@ Argie
I agree: Single male with ball glove at baseball game = offside, unless intention is to give said ball to nearest kid, or if going to give ball to child they are accompanying to said game.

May 9, 2014 @ 4:57 PM



That was the most wonderful lunch chat EVER. We will SO do that again. I had the best time.


I went out to Oakville to meet the sweet Stephanie. I did swing by the H&F show today and of course, a great time was had by all. That's a great idea -the three of us would have a ball. Yes, lunch for sure.

May 9, 2014 @ 4:57 PM


If Tim Hudak had been Premier these last 12 years I doubt any of you would defend his record.
You'd say the loss of 380, 000 manufacturing jobs were the result of his Tea Party, race to the bottom WalMart policies.
The subsidies to companies like Open Text and Cisco would be corporate welfare to your rich American/Bay Street buddies.
The teacher labour disruptions are just a carry over from the Mike Harris years.

So what's Wynne's excuse?

May 9, 2014 @ 5:07 PM


@Toronto Mike,

Ever have a meet-up or pub night with your community?

May 9, 2014 @ 5:45 PM


@ Stephanie,

If you ever want to know about curling, let me know. I mixed over 800 ends of it this winter.

Hope all is well in Toronto Mike world.


May 9, 2014 @ 6:10 PM


@ Glen

You're talking in only hypothetical situations. You keep bringing up things that didn't happen. Who knows what Hudak would have done the last 11 years (not twelve...Liberals came to power in Oct of 2003).

May 9, 2014 @ 6:31 PM



Pretty sure Stephanie was being facetious! ha ha.

May 9, 2014 @ 6:39 PM


@ Liz

I wouldn't blame her ;0

May 9, 2014 @ 6:45 PM


So, Mike, what's the deal with the change from the previous hosting provider to ts2? Seems kind of quiet, yet thorough for the full back catalogue of both H&F and TM; yet the TS archive is where it used to be...

May 9, 2014 @ 7:28 PM


LOL! Randy is a good coach!

May 9, 2014 @ 7:42 PM

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I didn't think people really cared where their podcasts were hosted. That probably explains the quiet.

But yes, H+F's MP3s are now hosted somewhere new, and since I just piggyback off of them, the same is true for Toronto Mike'd.

May 9, 2014 @ 7:55 PM



Met Ian today - great guy! He and I laughed a lot.

May 9, 2014 @ 8:06 PM


@Andrew, I do like curling and will watch it when it's on tv. Mens or womens.. such a different approach for each sex but still interesting. But.. in the context in which I wrote it was a little tongue-in-cheek.

@Mike, Liz and I met in Oakville at Alice Fazoolis (I had a busy day at work) and Liz was nice enough to come my way after a very early start to her day. I was jealous of her morning at the H&F Studio but there wasn't much chance of me making it. Another time we should meet in your part of town.

@Liz, can you tell Argie that I'm a nice person despite my address (you didn't see my Uggs, Lululemon or Canada Goose in my car, but I did sip on a chardonnay, didn't I??)

May 9, 2014 @ 8:08 PM


@Toronto Mike 9:29a.m., and @Derrick 9:26 a.m.

Pep versus Kaboom. The cereral of a 1940s radio program's Superman, or the 'cereal of The Defeated'?

p.s 1950s TV Superman show aired last night via Cozi's B&W programming feed. Every half-hour was a different show! The broadcast reception had failed though and the signal was lost.

May 9, 2014 @ 8:17 PM


You're right; I don't really care as long as it works. But it's hard not to notice when H&F sponsors change, particularly when sponsor engagement is such a big deal for them. You even had Pete McP on your show awhile back.

May 9, 2014 @ 8:30 PM


this guest (May 8th, 9:22 a.m. ) mentioned '1950s Father Knows Best' within the Tuesday thread.

I'd like to add that I've been listening to bunches of 1936-1952 era radio programs since March. FKB, on radio(!), was way better than the placid TV version (currently carried by ch 2.3 Antenna TV, btw).
Springfield's Jim Anderson (same lead actor) instead sounded like a family-tired blend of Homer Simpson and Al Bundy - but without the increasingly automatic crotch talk of post-modern entertainment.
And not to missed was the less than cheerful radio couple, The Bickersons.

May 9, 2014 @ 8:31 PM

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Pete's still a bud... and his company is still awesome. He's still hosting Todd Shapiro's podcast.

May 9, 2014 @ 8:34 PM

this guest

@ Argie:
Harris and Tim are close friends and share a common ultra neo conservative "vision of governing". Hudak's wife Deb Hutton might be considered the brains of the operation. She helped write the early drafts of the "Common Sense Revolution" document, not Mike or Tim. It set out the guiding principles and goals by which the 1995-2002 Harris government operated. It resulted in 7 years of extreme labour disruptions + unrest while providing generous tax cuts for the rich across Ontario.

Bob Seger. When will the real story be told?

Some of those old radio programs are gold.

the loss of 380,000 jobs is staggering. Possibly because corporations now have options to find slaves in north america (like in Missouri) with no rights and hardly any pay. It's criminal they make the profits they make and yet still slash decent jobs for hard working people.

I knew a guy, get this, told me he stood up to catch a ball at a blue jays game, told me this maybe 20 years ago, ducked at the last second and the ball hit the woman behind him in the chest. WTF.

May 9, 2014 @ 8:57 PM


If that story is This shit sounds like something out of a Scorsese flick or something.

But the Star does like to, shall we say, oversell from time to time....I guess we'll see.

May 9, 2014 @ 10:02 PM

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In the course of this March 5 night, Ford will bring together two of his closest felon friends, beating one and accepting drugs from another; go on a racist tirade; and boast that he often has sex with “girls” in front of his wife, according to an account of the evening. He will suggest one man could have sex with her, a source has told the Star, recalling Ford’s words. The information for this story comes from interviews and from the Star’s review of audio tape that captures a portion of the evening. The Star did not pay for the tape.

Again, as with the report about the first crack tape, if Kevin Donovan signs off on this (and he did), I trust it.

May 9, 2014 @ 10:08 PM


Fuck You, Rob Ford. Fuck You.
You're ruining your children's lives. Fuck you.

May 9, 2014 @ 10:26 PM

Rick C in Oakville

@Markosaar. I've asked the same for Mike to have a pub night. Maybe if Al the Royal Pain plays South Etobicoke(Mimico?) again, we can all cash in for the free beer! There's the South Side, he could bike there. Mike would like to cycle in Dallas Tx, where I was earlier this week. I wish my luddite Nokia flip phone camera worked, so I could have taken a picture of a sign that let motorists know that cyclists could take up the complete curb lane (the regular car lane).

It's the new reality in manufacturing in Ontario, Magna stated in today's Globe and Mail that there are no Ontario manufacturing plants in their plans at all. Many of the plants in the London, St. Thomas, to Windsor that I have dealt with have closed or left Ontario over the past 8 years: Siemens VDO injection molding, Sterling Freightliner, Ford, Fram(Honeywell) Electromotive, Standard Automotive, Kellogs, McCormick Brands, Heinz the list goes on. Just as you as a consumer look for the lowest cost on appliances etc. when you have to pay, so do the corporations look for the cheapest cost for their production.

Every one is afraid of Hudaks plan, but it is no worse than the one I have seen from the Liberals the last 10+ years.

Once the Condos and the Pan Am games construction are completed in Toronto in the next 2 years there isn't much in the pipe for large construction projects. I have a friend in the precast business for curtain walls etc. and there aren't as many tenders or quotes going through his company as in past years. Almost like the canary in the coal mind scenario.

Heard Rob Ford thinks rehab is like football camp, why did he resist so long?

Lastly: Ryan G, should have wrote this to the Office series folk before the show ended. I could just see Dwight blowing his Trombone at his fellow loud employees.

Got a bit lengthy, but the new Churchill Cellar's boys Dos Locos Lime Tequila drinks are quite addictive! On offer for $2.95 a can at your local LCBO!

May 9, 2014 @ 10:37 PM

this guest

seedy and violent and low brow and without culture.
what an existence. what garbage consciousness.

no wonder he wanted to privatize garbage collection.

May 9, 2014 @ 10:47 PM

this guest

thanks ford nation.

May 9, 2014 @ 10:51 PM


Curling season is over so no more curling until the fall. My trainer's team is curling this coming season, but my trainer will only be in a couple spiels plus he will curl in major league Tuesday nights. I will still cheer for my trainer's team no matter what though. The Habs are going to win the series, but they will win tonight. Monday night the Bruins will win and then Wednesday the Habs will win. Still a chance for a Habs and Rangers next round as the Rangers won last night so they can win it in seven. Let's hope. I hate the Pens. I want them gone. Bob Seger is the best. I don't know why so many people don't like him. He's great and he's the king. Who cares if people bring gloves to a game or not. You'll only see me at a Jays game if my trainer and his family go and my trainer says that I won't meet his kid unless I go to the game just like he said I wouldn't meet him if I didn't go to the race. Well, I won't make that mistake again. If I have to go to the Jays game because that's the way I'll meet the kid, then I'll be there, but hopefully asleep so the three or more hours will go by really quick. Now Rogers, please stop sending me junk. They sent me something two days in a row. Save paper and don't send me stuff. Rogers, you're not the best. Primus is the best. Primus won an award for best customer service, Rogers did not.

May 10, 2014 @ 8:20 AM


Happy Moms day to all you mothers especially Monica.

Disappointing when my neighbors complaining they have to visit & travel & see the both mothers tomorrow. My response was at least you have a mother to visit.

I just wish I could give my Mom a Happy Mother's day BIG HUG tomorrow as she passed away years ago.

Happy Mother's Day to all

May 10, 2014 @ 6:16 PM



i will tell you again that I love you. You are a good guy. The world needs more good guys like you.

May 10, 2014 @ 8:10 PM

Blind Dave

@Liz @Dale

My mom is 91. She is 2400km away so it will be a phone call rather than a visit. But then again, we talk every Sunday anyway, and have done for as long as I can remember.

May 10, 2014 @ 9:12 PM

this guest

in 2000 I was with my 'not awake' mother at the hospital
smoking related disease
even today I could cry
when she passed I couldn't believe it
the nurse had to prove it was true

I wish I'd been a better son
gone back home more often
called more often

May 10, 2014 @ 9:26 PM


@this guest

Tough post.

May 10, 2014 @ 9:45 PM

this guest

@ Liz,
yes. some things you can redo better the next time round.
some you can't.

May 10, 2014 @ 11:17 PM

Hurry Hard

@ Cheryl Tuesday night Major curling is the pinnacle.It just dwarfs Saturday morning mixed softball.

May 11, 2014 @ 6:24 AM


Well, I was wrong. The Bruins won. It will still go seven games though. Habs will win tomorrow night and Wednesday night so they have this. If it's the Pens and Habs they'll beat them as well and then beat the Kings for the cup. Still lots of hockey to be played. I'm right this time. It was just something that I was wrong about. I'm back to being right about this series. I predicted two Bruins wins and I got it and my Habs are going to win two more and the series. You'll see. I sure wish there was a summer league in hockey so I'll have hockey in July and August. Someone should start up a summer league.

May 11, 2014 @ 8:06 AM


@this guest


May 11, 2014 @ 10:55 AM


My mother is a hateful spiteful racist homophobe, to cut it short. I have no idea how to talk to her or relate to her. It's impossible to have a normal conversation with her, the most innocuous topic gets perverted into her giving a lesson about "the gays" taking over or how black people are all criminals and should all be deported. Or how lazy native people are. Or how Muslims are all terrorists. Or how global warming is a farce.

I'm dreading calling her today.

May 11, 2014 @ 5:32 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


On a related note, I watched August: Osage County this afternoon.

May 11, 2014 @ 6:19 PM



Bring it - I watched it, too. Spill, my friend.

May 11, 2014 @ 8:01 PM

this guest

when it snows in july the people who scoff at climate change
won't say 'holy fuck it's snowing in july'
they'll say 'hahaha look at the global warming theories'
and sedate their liver with a happy meal

May 12, 2014 @ 8:15 AM

this guest

i can picture tim hudak pledging support for
a summer snow plowing schedule
that won't interfere with cottage country traffic
while smiling like a jack o lantern in a horror flick

May 12, 2014 @ 8:18 AM


Liz & Mike,
"If I called my mother a liar she would have knocked my Goddamned head off."

Great performances by Streep and Roberts.

May 12, 2014 @ 8:23 AM

this guest

andrea horwath will call for environmentally friendly
summer snow salting
and premier wynne will announce a new hiring policy
around equity for summer student snow plow drivers

May 12, 2014 @ 8:24 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Argie and @Liz

Agreed. Nice piece of acting by Streep, Roberts and Cooper.

May 12, 2014 @ 8:51 AM


Enough. With. The. Ford. Comments.

What. A. Beautiful. Day.

May 12, 2014 @ 11:00 AM


@ Argie - It's been a beautiful couple of days!!! Too bad we're all stuck inside our various offices and such today.

Make's me more than a little jealous of guys like Mike who are able to work from home.

Ah...the telecommute.

May 12, 2014 @ 11:35 AM

this guest

ford + beautiful day comment

ol' Rob a'robbin' at the trough
unlike the red red robin
who comes bob bob bobbin' along

May 12, 2014 @ 1:11 PM


Well, ready for another game. I am. Habs will win another close one and then win in Boston on Wednesday. Yes, the Habs will win the cup. I know it. I'm right this time. The Rangers won last night. It will be Rangers in seven. Bye bye Pens.

May 12, 2014 @ 6:24 PM

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