1st Leafs Game Open Mike

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Finally first...

My work here is done.

October 1, 2013 @ 9:05 AM


I was at the last pre-season game against Detroit on Saturday and, while neither team dressed too many starters, I was impressed by Lieweke's son-in-law, I think his name is Bodie. He's a big guy with a nose for the net. He didn't score but he had many decent chances that he himself manufactured. Reminded me a lot of Andreychuck in the way he'd park in front of the net and the opposite team had a hard time moving him. Again, not many starters on either team, but I think he'd make a good 3rd-4th line center if he keeps on playing the way he did.

October 1, 2013 @ 9:20 AM


Go Leafs Go!

Isn't funny (actually its hilarious) that John Farrell and Yunel Escobar are in the playoffs and the Jays are not?

October 1, 2013 @ 9:21 AM


I see Kessel's locked up... nice to have him here for the long haul.

With solid defense and good goaltending the Leafs will be back in the playoffs.

Can't wait.

October 1, 2013 @ 9:21 AM

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I've liked what I seen from Bodie as well...

He's one smart-ass pawn!

October 1, 2013 @ 9:22 AM

Blind Dave

Yeah, tonight will be close. 3-2 or 4-3 either way. I think the teams will put on a good show.

So for all those people who hammered Burke for the Kessel trade, I see most of those same people are now happy Kessel is locked up long term? Maybe he could be traded to Calgary for a couple of first rounders. Should give us those two high picks back. No? Oh, ok... :)

October 1, 2013 @ 9:31 AM

Mississauga Phil

@ Mike - That's great!!!!

October 1, 2013 @ 9:43 AM

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I created that for this entry announcing the Kessel trade back in 2009.


October 1, 2013 @ 9:44 AM


Go Habs go. Habs are going to win. You'll see.

October 1, 2013 @ 9:57 AM

Lyle Lanley

American politics: Republicans hate Obama and the Democrats more than they love the United States of America.

So sad...

October 1, 2013 @ 10:10 AM

Sam in Pickering

@Lyle Lanley

Don't you know that the Breaking Bad finale was so powerful it literally shut down the US government!

October 1, 2013 @ 10:12 AM


@ Lyle
You copy and pasted that from a previous open mike. That's also sad.

The exact same thing was done by the Dems during the bush years.

October 1, 2013 @ 10:26 AM

Ben Vidal

@ Argie: Sorry you are wrong. The same thing wasn't done during the Bush years, but nice try.

October 1, 2013 @ 10:29 AM

Lyle Lanley


I actually stole it from my friend's facebook update this morning. Is that also sad?

It definitely seems true.

October 1, 2013 @ 10:29 AM


@ Ben
Of course they did. During the Iraq war the worse things got for the forces there, the better off the Dems were. It certainly contributed to Obama or any other Dem being elected.

The Dem critics and the left in general (the media and Hollywood)seemed to revel in the way things went in Iraq. I'm sure you remember.

October 1, 2013 @ 10:53 AM


Yes, Lyle, that's also sad.

October 1, 2013 @ 10:55 AM

Ben Vidal

@ Argie: Lyle was referencing the shut down of congress.

As for Iraq everyone was on board Dems and Repubs for heading into Iraq when the lies about weapons of mass destruction were around. Even the media was silent at first. Then people had a problem once that lie was made evident.

As smart as you can be Argie if you truly believe that a Dem getting in office was solely about that war you are severely misguided.

October 1, 2013 @ 10:57 AM



You are flat out wrong.

The last shutdown was Dec 16, 1995 to Jan 5, 1996.

Clinton was President.

There was a 4 day shutdown when the first Bush was President. That was in October of 1990.

October 1, 2013 @ 11:02 AM


I didn't say it was solely about the war. After 8 years of Bush and of course the war, Americans wanted a change. Even if Bush was a roaring success, Americans would have wanted to give the Dems a shot.

But of course, during Bush's tenure, he was constantly attacked by liberals, Dems and in the media and Hollywood. Those groups despised anyone who dare take a conservative view of important social issues.

Bush was not politically correct and as a result was hated by the Huff post/dysfunctional crowd.

My point is this is nothing new. Just politicians being politicians. They do what's best for themselves and their party.

October 1, 2013 @ 11:09 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

From everything I've read it sounds like the Republican party has been hi-jacked by a small number of Tea Party folks who are dead set on poisoning anything and everything Obama.

The sensible Republicans, like John McCain, have been drowned out.

It's partisan politics at its worst.

October 1, 2013 @ 11:25 AM


@ Mike
Doesn't sound like you read anything credible when it comes to American politics. It would be best for you to stick with entertainment and sports.

October 1, 2013 @ 11:35 AM


Yeah, Mike.

You are clearly too stupid, since Argie is always right.

Just because many credible sources say the same thing, it is all the Hollywood media changing facts. The crazy lefties are ruining this world and only the Tea Party has sense.

Argie is always right. Just because he lacks sources for a lot of his facts and ignores credible sources that disprove him doesn't mean he isn't right.

October 1, 2013 @ 11:43 AM

Ben Vidal

@ Toronto Mike. That about sums it up.

There are over 40 republicans that didn't want the shut down. All the losers voted in under the tea party banner however would rather see the country implode.

October 1, 2013 @ 11:48 AM

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C'mon Argie, the CBC is a fine source of news... even American political news.

And I don't just get my news from the CBC, it's just my first stop...

October 1, 2013 @ 11:48 AM

Mississauga Phil

@ Argie- I have been following politics most of my life. The Dems NEVER stooped to the level that the GOP did. The Dems NEVER shut down the government just to make a republican President look bad.

The GOP keeps shouting down universal healthcare. As a citizen of a country that has it, how can you continue to support these people who don't want their countrymen to have affordable, reliable healthcare.

This isn't about left vs right.....its about what is right and what is wrong...plain and simple

October 1, 2013 @ 11:52 AM


The CBC! They're more biased than Sun News.

I love this article by Levant on the CBC in regards to the two "heroes."

October 1, 2013 @ 11:53 AM


Why don't one of you lefties just come out with it? The reason for this move by the GOPs is that Obama is black.

Its not because he's a socialist, an idiot or the worse president ever, no, its because of the color of his skin. Right?

After all, if you're conservative, you must be racist, a Bible thumper and a closet homosexual.

October 1, 2013 @ 11:59 AM


I don't think anyone has made any of the claims you're accusing "lefties" of making.

And just by calling people "lefties" shows that you're immediately against anyone with an opposing view.

The US government is shutdown over the ACA. That's it. They hate it and they are using it to make Obama look bad. Not because his skin colour is different, not because they think he was born in Kenya but because they want the presidency. They want to destroy the democrats.

Fact is they claim they are doing it for the people but they forget thy Obama wa elected twice by those people. And both times with a large margin. If the people hated ACA then Obama would have lost. He didn't. Trying to repeal it now when the people actually want it is bad government.

Obama isn't the best president. But not everything he does is wrong.

October 1, 2013 @ 12:14 PM


What ever became of the poster who worked at RIM, and said that they were ready to come back strong due to Blackberry 10? I'd like to get his opinion on what is happening now...

October 1, 2013 @ 1:02 PM

Mississauga Phil

@ Argie- I don't think the GOP are doing this because Obama is black. I think they are doing it because they can't stand the thought of anyone but them running the country. Also, the majority of insurance lobbyists are right wingers and Obamacare takes money out of the pockets of insurance companies....hence it is the GOP taking care of the crooks who put money in their coffers.

October 1, 2013 @ 1:05 PM

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That was Ryan P... he even got me a Blackberry tablet loaner to review...

Ryan P, if you're out there, we want to hear from you!

October 1, 2013 @ 1:07 PM

Ryan P

Welp...the story is long and boring so I'll do my best to keep this brief.

In April, I left BlackBerry(on my own accord - I needed more from my career and BlackBerry wasn't going to provide that) and joined a Solar Energy firm. There were many hills and valleys in my time at BlackBerry since I commented so vigorously. I still stand behind what I said. The problem was strategy and execution.

What do I think about what is happening now? Its sad. Its tough to learn that over 4000 colleagues, many of whom I worked with, will be out of a job. Did I think that this would happen? No. I truly thought that BB10 would firmly place BlackBerry in 3rd place(a place they still hold over Windows Phone). It doesn't seem like they will stay in that place for very long however.

If you want to know what happened, read the article in The Globe and Mail from this past weekend. Was I involved in the board meetings? No way - I would have an easier time chatting with Thorsten or Mr. Lazaridis through my new company than I would have ever had at BlackBerry. BlackBerry's fall is due to poor strategy and the worst execution the consumer electronics industry. There are other internal reasons for their fall (no incentives to grow with the company, poor policies and employee engagement, some management who wouldn't be suitable as managers of a fast food joint...I could go on for ages) but the main reason is poor strategy and horrible execution.

I use a Nexus 4 now. Its almost painful for me to say that I can do more work on my Nexus 4 than I can with BB10 - but its the truth. I may go back to BlackBerry, but the leaks of the Nexus 5 seem preeeeety appealing to me over the latest Z30 from BlackBerry.

Anywho...I have to go make sure the sun is still on. So much for keeping this brief. If you have any other questions, post away!

October 1, 2013 @ 1:37 PM


@Ryan P

Amazing insight.

Specifically what execution mistakes were there in your opinion?

What should Blackberry have done differently.

Is the technology really as good as what we see from Apple and Samsung?

October 1, 2013 @ 1:47 PM


@ Ryan P

Interesting comments from you, Ryan. Being a resident of KW, I am very familiar with the internal issues at BlackBerry. The product is still inferior but their exeuction was also horrible. The "I want tools, not toys" campaign was insulting.

Solar Energy! Now we are talking...I am more curious about that (I am in Energy myself..)

October 1, 2013 @ 1:49 PM


@Ryan P

Blackberry 10 & the Z10 handset didn't fail because of technological inferiority. It failed for several reasons. The first is that smart phones are fashion accessories & it's more about style and image than about functionality. If IOS had been put on a "brick" it would have been a failure. Second, and just as important, the Z10 and BB10 are great pieces of technology but they do not have a lot of apps. This is a platform which is heavily driven by apps.

While it's easy to criticize BB for it's poor execution, the fact is both Google and Microsoft are doing the same thing. Surface, Windows 8 Phone & Windows 8 make a whole bunch of sense in a "cloud" world. The execution of the production was awful. The same can be said about Google in general. Google has a TON of great ideas, but the average citizen has no idea they exist. Google is an absymal failure at marketing & execution of it's products. Strip aside "tech" types and most people know Google for it's search engine. I would go so far as to say that without Samsung, Android would be a whole lot smaller on the world stage.

Finally, a major reason Blackberry/RIM failed was because they are located in Waterloo. Hey, I am a former resident & went to University of Waterloo. Without question, it's one of the most intelligent cities in the world. BUT, it's simply too small to host a developer & manager pool that the size RIM needed. They required "superstars" and Waterloo, while quite bucolic, simply isn't the first choice for the level of talent you need. You knew it was over the minute people started working at RIM for the "job security and benefits". If thats your prime focus, you don't belong at a world class technologist company in what is THE most viciously competitive business on earth.

Good luck in Solar Energy. It'll take it's lumps & it has it's naysayers but it has a bright future. I've read that they're working on incorporation of solar cells into building products. The entire house becomes a "panel". Be patient but that IS the future.

October 1, 2013 @ 2:34 PM


@Irv: "Good luck in Solar Energy ... it has a bright future"


@Ryan P: What sort of solar tech are you working with? Anything near-far-future-like, like orbital solar collectors with ground-based microwave power receivers?

October 1, 2013 @ 3:02 PM


Re: Blackberry

Just as North American auto makers largely ignored Honda and Toyota when they broke into the market, Blackberry did not react quickly enough to the IPhone when it launched. In my opinion, that is the main reason. They sat on their laurels and did nothing. Too little...too late. The Z10 is a great phone, but it should have launched 5 or 6 years ago.

October 1, 2013 @ 3:43 PM


@Gary: And now Honda and Toyota are ignoring Hyundi.

And all of them are ignoring Tesla.

October 1, 2013 @ 3:52 PM


The circle of life can also be applied to the business world. Once a company gets too big (see: old) to the point where they can't adapt fast enough to compete with newer, more nimble companies, they die or get bought up. Some make comebacks, but most stay dead. Look at RIM, Corel, Netscape, myspace, Yahoo, GM, Nokia, Palm etc...

The companies with longevity are the ones that keep on innovating and continue to try new things while not being afraid to shed the failures or the old...


...they're simply too big to fail and thus get propped up until they finally do succeed once again despite themselves (see: GM, Microsoft)

October 1, 2013 @ 4:12 PM



I disagree with your point and I will explain why. The technical sector is very different from the vast majority of other business. In a "classic" business like automobiles or household appliances, change is relatively slow. Fundamentally what's under the hood is mostly the same as it was 10 years ago. In technology that is not the case. What was in use 10 years ago is obsolete & has been replaced by new technology. In the world of programming there are entirely new languages being used that didn't exist a decade ago. Anyone working in the technology field knows the pressures of living a life of perpetual learning.

Staying on top of technology is close to impossible because it's extremely competitive & success is built ENTIRELY around vision. You don't get rich being a good coder in tech. You get rich because you are a visionary. Of course there is always someone waiting in the shadows who has a fresher, newer vision than you. Most people not in tech cannot grasp how rapid development is & how vicious this business is.

I'm not sure why you mentioned Microsoft as one of those companies being "propped up". To my knowledge, MS has never been bailed out or given copious amounts of government money. In the early days, MS was a vicious, no holds bar company. It had a good mix of vision & a leader who was ruthless when it came to acquiring ideas. Even if that meant swallowing all the little fish in the sea. It's in the last 5 years under the leadership of Ballmer they've really drifted aimlessly. Good ideas, lousy execution.

October 1, 2013 @ 4:47 PM


At the end of the day....it is too bad and sad. I still have a Blackberry, but I am about to go to Android.

October 1, 2013 @ 4:51 PM

Ryan P

Specifics for execution? Only one that matters was getting product out the door on time. You don't announce a product in October and launch it (with a sub-par software experience) the next April.

What they should do differently? Execute - under promise, over deliver. They have always over promised and under delivered. I love BlackBerry hardware - its beautiful. The Z10 had a great design - HTC even copied in some ways its design on the One.

Technology? On the hardware side, it doesn't matter. Everyone except Apple goes to Qualcomm/nVidia or any one of the many other providers of silicon and buy their chips. QNX? QNX is amazing. Think Linux but faster and mission critical. They have many patents(a few of which I helped with) and some amazingly smart people. RIM's RF team is bar-none the best in the business.

Appreciate the interest in Solar. I've left the R&D world for now. The company I work for is a Solar EPC (Engineer, Procure, Construct). We do mostly ground mounted tracking systems under the microFIT program in Ontario, but with the changes to FIT from the Ontario Power Authority, we're moving into rooftop PV and larger scale.

I'm just in the standard PV right now. We are dabbling here and there with water and other tech (combined solar/water/wind).

Thanks. We're on the cusp of something with solar. The systems we built 3 years ago were costing about $100k. Now, we can build the same system for about $40k. Prices are falling fast and the technology just keeps getting better.

Saw the geosync idea a while back (someone based in California I think?) - its awesome and has huge merit. The sun always shines in space.

In the end, BlackBerry is still a "strong" company. They're starting to bleed cash now, but they have 0 debt and still have $2.5b in the bank. If they go belly up, they won't be needing a bail out and they never have. I truly hope that doesn't happen though.

October 1, 2013 @ 5:26 PM


You know what's the big untold story about this shutdown. As the Republicans in the house of rep is causing this because of their "majority" in reality the 2012 election about a MILLION more people voted for democrats in house of rep races than republicans. They only got this majority because before the election, state Republican governors redistricting districts to under-represent Democrats areas and over-represent republican areas. Democrats got more votes

So next time you hear a conservative talking about commies, or dictators, or not representing "the people" just remember in 2012 where most people voted for the Democrat president, Democrat Senate AND Democrat house of representatives. But republicans are in control of congress just because their State governors gerrymandering the districts. I wonder who Argie good US political source, is it the same people who said Romney would win easily over Obama?

I don't know anybody in this country can ever support the full out bull that conservative south of the border is saying. Come on, I don't care if you are a local liberal or conservative, do you think Canada is close to Nazi Germany because of health care, because that's what some republicans and conservative pundits are saying. For me you have no credibility once you exaggerate like that. I had the misfortune of flipping by talk show host Michael Savage, & he talked about how a friends gave birth at an US hospital and how we will lose that if we have socialized medicine, and I thought yeah because Canadians are giving births at dirty alley ways.

@Argie baseball, if you want to follow more Jays that were with the team last season but in the playoffs this season, Yan Gomes (who I liked)is playing catcher for the Indians (but we kept the under .200 JP yay) and Travis Snider (who I wasn't a huge fan of) was traded last season and is playing for the Pirates.

October 1, 2013 @ 5:27 PM


@Irv 14:34 p.m.
Samsung played us for chumps.
Ontario's provincial government gave Samsung hundreds of millions of dollars' worth of incentives for green energy development; oil-rich Texas did likewise for mobile technology.
Here was my Dec. 2012 link.

Blackberry is now writing off all of that unsold product of theirs. Maybe they should have comp'd a lot more online bloggers and tweeters?

October 1, 2013 @ 6:08 PM


My neighbour put up her outdoor Halloween decorations over the weekend.

I'm not talking about autumn displays like porch pumpkins and potted 'mums.

She has those inflatable ghosts and witches scattered over her front lawn.

Too soon?

October 1, 2013 @ 6:19 PM



Honestly, your complaints are usually without fact and coherent argument.

@ Ryan P

I get what you do. I'm very familiar with Fit, MicroFit and the OPA. I don't work there though. And as Irvine, it's got a huge future. Good to get in the "ground mounted" floor.
I wish I could write about energy. I'm strictly forbidden. But damn, I want to.

October 1, 2013 @ 7:03 PM


I'll assume you know what you're talking about when it comes to US politics but I do have one quibble.

I know we Canadians believe we have a much superior health system to that in the states but I'm not clear on one thing: Why do we send so many women each year to the US whenever there is what's deemed as a complicated pregnancy or even for multiple births? This is the case in many border towns and cities in Canada. Are our hospitals too damn busy or maybe the US hospitals simply better and safer than ours? The same hospitals we fund through sky high taxes.

That could be what Savage was referring to. I don't know, I didn't hear the interview.

October 1, 2013 @ 7:18 PM


@Argie Patients are sent to out of country hospitals when there is no bed for the patient. I don't mean a physical bed, it's the resources (i.e. physicians, registered nurses, etc.) that are sometimes lacking. To be blunt, the provincial government needs to increase funding to hospitals. Their base funding has been frozen for, I believe, two years. It's atrocious.

October 1, 2013 @ 7:42 PM

4x4 Time

Obama needs to call in Frank Underwood to clean up this Tea Party revolution..

October 1, 2013 @ 8:15 PM


@Elba, that's sort of Argie's point (not to put words in his mouth, but just how I'm reading it).

Infinite funding isn't really an answer. I think there's no doubt the Ontario system is incredibly inefficient. I mean anecdotally, I KNOW it is courtesy of being related to many people in the system. You'd have departments deliberately wasting funds just to ensure their budgets don't get cut.

I also think there's no doubt the US system is less-than-ideal too for a variety of reasons. Our system is more "fair", but it's an incredible burden on taxpayers, when it doesn't really need to be.

I think the problems with it go further with the civil service in general -- bureaucrats, teachers, health-care providers, etc. Seniority is valued more than capability.

I had my own stint in the civil service, and lord almighty the things I've seen.

October 1, 2013 @ 8:45 PM

Rick C in Oakville

I may come off as heartless with what I am going to add to the Health care debate and it's costs, but going to dive in.
Read in the Globe today http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/canadian-sisters-injured-in-kenya-mall-attack-back-in-canada/article14605448/?cmpid=rss1that that the 2 Canadian girls injured in the Kenyan mall attack were brought to Toronto's Sunnybrook hospital for surgery. Understood from other stories that they had lived abroad for 2+ years and had only visited this past summer.

From the story:
It remains unclear whether the family paid for the hospital transfer or relied on the Distressed Canadian Fund, (essentially a loan fund for Canadians stranded abroad) or some other source of federal assistance. It’s also unclear whether Fardosa qualifies for health insurance under the Ontario Health Insurance Plan.

Ontario Health Ministry spokesman David Jensen said he can’t comment on individual cases, but he pointed out there are exceptions to the residency requirements for coverage – including studying outside Canada. Although a person must typically be in the province for at least 153 days in any 12-month period, a person can remain insured if he or she is pursuing full-time studies in another Canadian jurisdiction or abroad.

When asked whether Fardosa’s high school education qualifies as full-time study outside Canada, Mr. Jensen said, “Yes.” The rules also state that the student must not establish a primary residence outside the province and must meet specific residency requirements in the two years leading up to the departure.

October 1, 2013 @ 8:59 PM


Sorry for your loss, Cheryl.

October 1, 2013 @ 9:57 PM


Scoreboard, baby.

October 1, 2013 @ 10:17 PM

Jason from Sudbury

Losing the game sucked and the Leafs did get away with a few calls at the end. Not really worried about losing the game though I'm more concerned about George Parros.

October 1, 2013 @ 10:52 PM



Just a few comments regarding your post. First of all "oil rich" Texas (and Alberta) just happen to be leaders in wind generated electricity. When I was living in Calgary, the light rail train (C Train) was entirely powered by wind generated electricity. So was my condo. My power bill was about 48 bucks a month. The "wind" premium added about 6 bucks.

As for Texas, it's the leader in wind power in the USA. See the following map


So did Samsung rip off Ontario with green energy or did Ontario just fuck up the entire plan? I recall reading a study on TheOilDrum years ago sponsored by either TransAlta or Nexen. The article claimed that all of North Americas electricity needs & THEN some could be produced with offshore wind turbines in the Great Lakes. How come ONLY Ontario can't produce reasonably priced wind power?

October 1, 2013 @ 11:20 PM


@Irv 23:20 and McNulty 19:03
Samsung pulled a criss-cross in Cdn/U.S. government industry handouts between Texas and Ontario. The Texas portion was covered by the New York Times etc.
Yeah, I referred to Texas as 'oil-rich'. Regardless of the addition of Wind Power, they still are widely considered oil-rich. We assisted Samsung against an overall energy industry where Texas has a strong position; they assisted Samsung in its mobile competition - that meant RIM.

October 1, 2013 @ 11:35 PM



So what you're saying to me is that public money being invested in to a private company is bad?

A long time ago, a guy named Peter Lougheed was the premier of Alberta. Mr Lougheed took taxpayer money & created both AEC and invested in fledging company Syncrude. At that time the price of oil was so low that extraction from this oil sands stuff was simply not feasible. Regardless, public money was invested with a long term goal of hopefully turning the oil sands into something that had some value to Canadians. Hate the sands all you want but you cannot deny that the 800,000 jobs it's produced give people the dignity and security of a good paying job. There are hundreds of thousands of kids who eat dinner every day because of the wealth produced by the oil sands.

SO CQ, was that a "hand out" to Syncrude or just a wise investment. OR was it a gamble? Or both.

October 2, 2013 @ 12:13 AM


@Irv 00:13
No. A taxpayer handout to a foreign, or non-North American, company is an unwise investment. Blackberry made enough of its own mistakes. Could Samsung have gotten as much of a competitive lead against RIM, this soon, without their double clutch?
I don't hate the oil sands one iota.

October 2, 2013 @ 12:53 AM


You're blaming Samsung's contract for Wind Turbines for the failures if BlackBerry?

Is that right?

October 2, 2013 @ 6:38 AM


While Harper has made some smart moves as PM, he's also made some dumb ones too.

The most glaring are his choices as Senators. Wallin, Duffy and bunch of other losers including Patrick Brazeau. This clown takes the cake. He was arrested for domestic abuse recently, has scammed the taxpayers in bogus expenses and now he's been once again arrested and is in hospital. Worst of all, he even lost a boxing match to that girl Justin Trudeau.

October 2, 2013 @ 9:50 AM

Ben Vidal

@McNulty: I don't think that's the point CQ was making. For him to make a point he would have to string together a coherent sentence.

@Argie: Agree with you all the way and then you have to throw in the last line.

It looks like it's one of those days where another person in Rob Fords inner circle is in trouble with some form of the law. The most shocking part is its drug related.

October 2, 2013 @ 9:54 AM


@McNulty 06:38
Are you afraid of adding 2+2?
Besides the Wind Turbine contract, there was the other Texas gov't deal for Samsung. Between Ontario and Texas, our industry lost first.
This was like buying new skates for a neighbour's kid while one's own was making do with hand-me-downs. And then having berated one's own with such boot-strap adages as "It's a poor craftsman who blames his/her tools."

P.S. Guess what other Ontario Government supporting group re-invested in the Nexen oil sands of Alberta last year, while conditioning thousands of 'inconvienent' youngsters to "hate oil" as Irv might suggest. The same that attempted a 50% stake in a Downtown Toronto MGM Casino while standard test math scores were falling, earlier this year. The Same that purchased MLSE and fielded a exclusively zero-Ontario player NHL team.

October 2, 2013 @ 9:58 AM


@McNulty 06:38
Are you afraid of adding 2+2?
Besides the Wind Turbine contract, there was the other Texas gov't deal for Samsung. Between Ontario and Texas, our industry lost first.
This was like buying new skates for a neighbour's kid while one's own was making do with hand-me-downs. And then having berated one's own with such boot-strap adages as "It's a poor craftsman who blames his/her tools."

P.S. Guess what other Ontario Government supporting group re-invested in the Nexen oil sands of Alberta last year, while conditioning thousands of 'inconvienent' youngsters to "hate oil" as Irv might suggest. The same that attempted a 50% stake in a Downtown Toronto MGM Casino while standard test math scores were falling, earlier this year. The Same that purchased MLSE and fielded a exclusively zero-Ontario player NHL team.

October 2, 2013 @ 9:58 AM


@Glen: Start of October is just fine for Halloween decorations. However, there is never the right time for inflatables. =)

I run a haunted house in Newmarket... really need to update the website with better pictures, but: http://houghtonhaunt.com/index.php?folder_id=36

Planning, buying and construction usually starts in late August. We'll be putting out the major setpieces on Thanksgiving-- fencing, porch enclosure, side-yard tent with frontage.

October 2, 2013 @ 10:14 AM



I'm good at math. 2+2 = 4.

You're math comes with an answer of crazy. Samsung has created a lot of jobs in Ontario. The turbines exist. It's better for the province.

But believe what you want. And explain it in the most obscure and confusing way possible.

October 2, 2013 @ 10:59 AM


Yes, the game sucked and Parros. That's another thing. Another concussion. Well, sure hope Habs win the next game.

October 2, 2013 @ 11:13 AM



According to http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/roster.htm

There are 6 Leafs on the roster this year from Ontario:

Dave Bolland - Mimico, ON
David Clarkson - Toronto, ON
Nazem Kadri - London, ON
Jay McClement - Kingston, ON
Mark Fraser - Ottawa, ON
Paul Ranger - Whitby, ON

Last year (http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=651172) there were 4 (Kadri, Fraser, McClement and Kostka) or did I miss something?


October 2, 2013 @ 12:39 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

Curiosity: Why is Dave Bolland from Mimico and not Toronto?

Mimico is a neighbourhood in Toronto, right? Why is Clarkson from Toronto and Bolland not?

Of course he is, I'm just curious why they always say Mimico instead of listing the city...

October 2, 2013 @ 12:42 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

And... the Leafs have never been a team without at least one player from Ontario. Never.

October 2, 2013 @ 12:45 PM

Mississauga Phil

@ Mike - It's one of those weird things. I'm from Mississauga (go figure...) and if asked, that's what I say. But....if you live within to borders of the old Town of Streetsville, people say ther're from Streetsville like it is its own city.....

I've never told someone I'm from Cooksville (which is what my area of Mississauga used to be called.) If someone is curious enough to want a specific are, I usually say "Square 1 area"

October 2, 2013 @ 12:48 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Mississauga Phil

You'd think the official Leafs site would be consistent... City, Province, Country... Mimico is not a city!

New Toronto Mike

October 2, 2013 @ 12:50 PM



I think it is left over from the days of Etobicoke, now Toronto. Even before the hostile takeover, people from Mimico (I lived there, not from there) would identify themselves as from Mimico and not necessarily from Etobicoke. Mind you, they (we) would always give our postal address as Etobicoke! Even after the take over, we still used Etobicoke and not Toronto.

Not dissimilar to Scarborough, there is no City of Scarborough here anymore and people still call it that and use the postal address as Scarborough.


October 2, 2013 @ 1:08 PM

Mississauga Phil

@ Mike - I agree, but people are freaking weird. I'd Imagine it is by Bolland's preference that he's listed as from Mimico.

Like I said...the Streetsville snobs think they are a city unto themselves...could be that Mimico is the same, I'm not sure.

October 2, 2013 @ 2:44 PM


@Phil: North Streetsville or South Streetsville?

Because those South Streetville snobs are the real jerkasses who just can't accept that they're not a city like North Streetsville is.

October 2, 2013 @ 2:50 PM

Mississauga Phil

Sorry Lorne...it's been my experience that the Majority of people who live in Streetsville are asshats. I used to work at the Streesville Keg...every dude my age I knew was a silver spoon kid that cared more about partying than anything...but it was okay cause rich O'l Daddy would clean up all their messes....

October 2, 2013 @ 2:56 PM


I heard the only place to live in Mississauga is Port Credit.

October 2, 2013 @ 2:56 PM


Long time residents of Mimico consider themselves very distinct from Toronto or even other neighbourhoods. This was reinforced to me when I overheard an actual conversation in The Blue Goose. Two guys discussing citizens of note:

Guy 1: Brendan Shanahan was born and raised right here in Mimico.
Guy 2: Yeah, well so was Allan Eagleson.
Guy 1: (offended) He's from New Toronto, asshole!

New Toronto being the next neighbourhood over, and apparently the spawning ground of scumbags.

October 2, 2013 @ 5:53 PM


@Argie I never have said we have the best system, I am totally willing and encourage to look at other health care system and see if we can improve ours. I just think leaving it to private insurance corporations is a bad move as corporations admittedly first priority is to make a profit. I just find American conservative against a healthcare plan to be disingenuous when they go with the "nazi" tag or say something like Savage did about there will somehow be mass pregnancies going wrong.

Ben touched on this but I have to comment, Ford's friend & driver was arrested in a drug bust. That didn't catch my eye as much as Rob Fords press conference. It started around 1pm in a gas station near his house, Ford lectured the media saying "What really bothers him is the media hounding his home". Called the driver who's been convicted of assaulting a woman in the past "a good guy" and the classic "I've never seen him even drink" and then tops it off by saying he "doesn't throw his friends under the bus".

First, Ford if you want reporters not to be at your home, here's an idea, GO TO WORK! Get out of bed before noon. Oh and stop hanging around criminals. 2) If what bothers you most today is reporters annoying at your front lawn and NOT somebody in your inner-circle being busted in a drug ring, it seriously showed how F*CKED up you and your surroundings are. 3) Why does the Fords always go with the "I never seen him drink" line, especially after Doug when talking about Rob and went from that line to "Of course he drinks, he's a regular guy folks", in a matter of a few months 4)"Not throwing friends under the bus" So Ford is literally living out "Gangland" code. So does he put friends above family safety?

The thing that really gets me is his enablers in the media, there's a bunch of talk radio scum(no other word to describe them) who jumped on the Fords a victim bandwagon & complain about the media being there. If you really care about his family, why are you not questioning & speaking out towards a father of young kids who hang out with multiple drug dealers! In ford nation, the media doing their job covering the story = "harassment". The Mayor who spends his free time hanging around the drug trade = "Regular guy with good values" It shows how selfish Ford is to hide behind his kids to get the media off his back, but not care enough for thme to not hang out with shady dealers.

October 2, 2013 @ 8:29 PM


We're all entitled to our opinion of Ford. I'm also big on free speech but its a good thing for you Ford is nothing like that loudmouth Brian Burke. He would be all over you in a big way.

October 3, 2013 @ 8:09 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


My New Toronto neighbours are sweethearts!

October 3, 2013 @ 9:21 AM


Habs will win on Saturday. Beat the Flyers. The Leafs won't be hot forever. I just know. Coyotes will win their home opener tonight. That will be good and Cardinals will beat Carolina on Sunday.

October 3, 2013 @ 7:12 PM


@Argie, okay I'll bite, PLEASE tell me what I said that would be considered false in any way. Or are you just doing classic Ford nation and hope people would stop writing and discussing Ford. Everything I said was factual, it's proven fact Ford associates with criminals

I will question ANY man somehow is connected with numerous shady people, especially if he has a family. Ford personally hand picked a driver who also has a history of being convicted for assault and threatening women, that's the type of guy Ford calls "straight as an arrow and a good guy". Ford nation example of a "good guy"

If that's not enough, even resident media Ford cheerleader Joe (it's only ginger ale) Warmington is questioning why is there a list of of over a DOZEN people in that some way crossed paths with Ford, who has had some criminal elements in their lives (either being inflected on them but mostly causing it). The list

This 75 year old woman is my hero. She tells a story seeing Ford drive to this guys house numerous times, and just sit there waiting for this guy to come to Ford's car. But my favorite line from this lady when she said "The mayor always says if you have a problem, call me and I'll be around,”. “So I said to a neighbour, is there a problem in this neighbourhood because I see Rob here all the time.” Haha classic line.

(I clicked send and said I needed approval, never had the before, resending it now. If it still going to go for approval just put the original one up)

October 3, 2013 @ 9:04 PM

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