August 16 Open Mike

Open MikeThis is your Open Mike for August 16, 2013. Be good to it, and it will be good to you.

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I hate when people post "first" on Open Mike.

August 16, 2013 @ 8:52 AM

Sam in Pickering


August 16, 2013 @ 8:54 AM

Ryan G

A dude in Kansas City set up a whole website devoted to telling the world about his entire life..and death.

August 16, 2013 @ 8:57 AM


Good one Sam! :)

August 16, 2013 @ 9:07 AM

Al The Royal Pain

@Ryan G

Fascinating link! I've bookmarked it.

August 16, 2013 @ 9:18 AM

Al The Royal Pain

Tomorrow night, my band will play our first city gig!

Those of you who are looking for a place to happen tomorrow night and love good live music (90s and newer alt-rock), feel free to come on by Duffy's Tavern on Bloor St. West.

For further details, here's the link:

August 16, 2013 @ 9:21 AM

Ben Vidal

Every time I hear that new propaganda ad for the big three telecom companies I want to scream. All three companies are thieves, and to think they are talking about fair competition?? Fair competition. I think the word they are looking for is collusion, not competition. Tell me it's fair competition when I can choose the TV channels I want instead of being locked into bundles. Or when cell phone rates are as terrible as they are. The only thing they are competitive on is how long you stay on the phone when you have an issue, which appears to be at least 30 minutes for all 3.

Instead of spending millions on ads saying how hard done by you are, how about taking those millions and converting it into savings for every customer you have.

I guess my big question is, who does those ads work on? Who hears that and actually feels sorry for either of our big three?

August 16, 2013 @ 9:55 AM

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@Ben Vidal

I've actually only listened to 2 radio stations the past two weeks (excluding The Moose in Huntsville last weekend):

CBC RadioOne

Neither has ads (I realize 88.1 will soon have ads), so I've never heard this propaganda ad. If you look at plans from the big three, it's clear there's collusion. It's despicable.

More competition is badly needed.

August 16, 2013 @ 9:59 AM


Rant time!

Lego... a great toy, right?

As a kid, I spent hours playing with lego. I had hundreds of pieces and the rest was up to my imagination. I could make a plane or a castle or a house or a monster. Whatever I wanted.

Today Lego is really a puzzle. The parts match up with the strict instructions to build what you see on the box. Maybe it's a Star Wars fighter jet or whatever. It's following directions like building something from Ikea.

Lego isn't nearly as good a toy as it once was because it's just a puzzle now.

August 16, 2013 @ 10:04 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

The 354 comments and counting on the entry about Todd Shapiro getting fired from the Dean Blundell Show is pretty amusing.

Some silly rumours, some ridiculous rumours and some truth in there....

August 16, 2013 @ 10:10 AM


Kevin: you can still buy basic buckets of bricks. No one is forcing you to buy the licensed designs. They can be nice to have anyway though even to play with creatively, for the unique parts.

I'm also offended by the whining of the big 3. Even the fact that they're running ads together like that implies collusion.

August 16, 2013 @ 10:12 AM


As an employee of a Big Three telecom company, just don't forget that people's jobs are on the line with this issue. Sometimes I think capitalism forgets that there are people behind "evil" companies. I for one would be willing to pay more for my products if it meant having more jobs kept in Canada. Maybe I am more socialist than I think I am.

August 16, 2013 @ 10:12 AM


Mike: had no idea that thread was still running. Would you consider adding some way to subscribe to posts for updates? By email (digests?) or RSS or whatever.

August 16, 2013 @ 10:13 AM


Richard: so you're socialist when it suits your purposes.

August 16, 2013 @ 10:14 AM

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@markosaar's right.... you can still buy plain old Lego bricks and be as creative as possible.

And I would know. I'm a member of the Lego Club 1980.

August 16, 2013 @ 10:15 AM

Ben Vidal

@ richard: I spent a COOP term in University at Bell. That place is a shit show. There is so much waste there it's incredible. You have 3 departments doing the job that one could. This person can't get this done, because that person has to look at it first, but they can't look at it until this person releases that and that person is waiting for the president to scratch his ear once.

I can't comment on the other two, but I have a friend in HR at Rogers and I've heard some similar comments from her about things at Rogers.

I'm all about Canadian jobs, but companies like Bell and Rogers aren't hard up when they are buying sports teams and astral media.

What about the jobs on the line at astral with Bell buying them out? any thought for those people? My sister works in production there and a large number of people are scared to death about their future. For them being scared isn't simple paranoia, as they have been advised there will be right sizing.

August 16, 2013 @ 10:18 AM


Wow - 354 comments on the Shapiro thing? Who could possibly care that much? Is that a record Mike?

August 16, 2013 @ 10:25 AM

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The record is 626 comments on this entry about a shitty Prima television experience I had:

August 16, 2013 @ 10:33 AM


Watched a documentary "Searching for Sugar Man" last night. Fantastic story about Rodriguez. Good flick for music fans and ageing rockers.

August 16, 2013 @ 10:43 AM


Watched a documentary "Searching for Sugar Man" last night. Fantastic story about Rodriguez. Good flick for music fans and ageing rockers.

August 16, 2013 @ 10:43 AM

Mississauga Phil

@ Ben - -totally agree on those ads, I've started turning off my radio when they come on.

@ Richard - Really hope you don't loose your job, seriously. But, if the Big 3 weren't gouging us with prices and service fees and the like (While posting ridiculous profits might I add) we might have a bit more sympathy for their plight.

Would you be willing to pay more for electricity if the electric co said "pay more or people will loose their jobs?"

Rogers/Bell/Telus are greedy and underhanded...simple fact my friend.

August 16, 2013 @ 10:47 AM


@Richard: Good astroturf there. I bet Mike's having a good chuckle at your IP log.

August 16, 2013 @ 10:48 AM

Mississauga Phil

Oh, and jobs in Canada?? Really? When rogers credit opps called me last week, its from a Wisconsin there a Wisconsin, ON that I don't know about??

August 16, 2013 @ 10:49 AM


Firstly, I predict Irvy will be chiming in shortly. He's guaranteed to "contribute" whenever someone starts complaining about greedy corporations.

However, we must remember almost all companies (both big and small) are in a sense greedy. That's how they maximize their profits.

I'm not saying its right but a company like Rogers or Bell will always charge what the consumer will pay for a cell phone. I know several people who pay over $60 a month for a freaking cell phone (data plan included). Me, I pay $30. I can live without the internet when I'm outside of my house or a store or cafe that offers free wi-fi.

If you want a cheap cell phone plan with unlimited data and calling go to Wind. That may explain why they're losing money hand over fist.

August 16, 2013 @ 11:00 AM


Thanks @Mississauga Phil. I actually would be willing to pay more for a lot of things. I believe we are transitioning to a society where everyone will have to start paying for more things. Nothing in this country is free. And yes I hate when I see companies going out of country for jobs. I really think it all goes back to people want more for less. People always want their stock prices to rise and product prices to fall. So how can companies do this? Get lower employee costs.

August 16, 2013 @ 11:03 AM


This is it. I never worked at Rogers or Bell. I don't want to. Anyway, if you're fed up, get Primus. That's the way to go. They're cheap and they're reliable and they have great customer service, the best. Why bother getting a cellphone. I mean we didn't have them before. There's no reason to get one. Primus has cellphones, but I'm not bothering to get one. If I needed one, I would probably get one from Primus because they are the best.

Sure wish there were more sports on besides baseball though. Oh well, getting closer and closer to hockey. That's good. Habs will beat the Leafs in the opener.

August 16, 2013 @ 11:18 AM

Mississauga Phil

@ Richard - But, my point was that you say Verizon coming in will cost Canadian's jobs. I'm telling you that Rogers calls me from Wisconsin, and a friend of mine who is with Bell get's calls from the Carolina's, so your logic is flawed. That's 2 of the Big 3 that i know for a FACT already give "Canadian Jobs" to the US. I'm sure Telus does as well, I just don't know it for a fact.

Again, hope you keep your job, but please don't try and feed us the company kool-aid that the Big 3 are looking out for Canadians.

August 16, 2013 @ 11:23 AM

Rick C in Oakville

I remember the days when Bell had the whole Canadian market monopoly. In the late 60's my cousin (who was my best friend) moved to Mississauga, near the Sheridan research park. It was long distance to call Mississauga from East Scarborough then. I recall my dad giving me a blast about a huge long distance bill I ran up calling him at the time. Bell made money hand over fist in this era, so my sympathies don't run too deep for them. And given their take over's of Astral etc. they have a value bigger than some Caribbean islands GDP. My company always has competition creeping up on them, either you adapt or perish.

August 16, 2013 @ 11:28 AM


@Al The Royal Pain

Nice website. Any samples of your music on Youtube yet? (can't get it at work)

@Toronto Mike

The only real truth is that Todd Shapiro is no longer on the show.

August 16, 2013 @ 11:43 AM

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Todd Shapiro is no longer on the show, and it wasn't his decision.

August 16, 2013 @ 11:43 AM


Is 88.1 going to get a morning show? If so, who would you want to hear?
So far, so good, 88.1. The Throne of Glory segments are great.

August 16, 2013 @ 12:10 PM


I welcome Verizon to the telecom landscape in Canada. I worked for Rogers for a few years. I don't remember very many people that actually liked working there, other than the steady employment, me being one of them. As a consumer, I can always count on a lower price when I phone up and ask for it. For the best pricing, ask for customer retention. My question is, why do we have to do that? Knowing that there is better pricing available, I feel you have to continually call and threaten to leave. They are not losing money by lowering the cost - they are just greedy. I'm tired of them, their shitty service.. not sure how Verizon will change the game here, but more competition will work in favour of the consumer.

August 16, 2013 @ 12:11 PM


@Mike..... How do you know it wasn't Todd's decision to leave? What have your sources told you?

August 16, 2013 @ 12:27 PM


Each of the major cell phone companies has their strengths and weakneeses. Some of those characteristics are evolutions of the legislation and regulations on record that were archaic in the 1990s. One of those archaic regulations is the requirement for at least one, if not two, of the "big 3" to provide service in smaller markets and rural areas along major highways. Wind and Mobilicity do not have that requirement, and if you look at their coverage maps, you'll see that their coverage is not nearly as full as Bell, Rogers or Telus. In a polite way, you don't get what you don't pay for.

I'm not quite enamoured of Verizon, who are indeed several times the size of the entire Canadian mobile phone industry, thanks to being the largest American cell phone service provider. From what I have heard and read, their customer service is decent. I currently have a pay-as-you-go AT&T account for my "old" Sony Xperia, now dedicated for use outside of Canada. The plan works for me, but I have taken a look at what it would cost to have a monthly plan equivalent to what I have here. $100/month with Verizon, $92/month with AT&T. I pay $80 with Rogers (before bundling discounts). The differences between the plans are 2 GB date per month in the US vs. 1 GB here (my record monthly usage is under 500 MB) and no roaming/long distance charges anywhere in the continental states, so all domestic calls are "local". I know Koodo considers all of Canada as "local", or at least they were the first to do so. All providers here should do that. I don't make/take many long distance calls, but the standard rates if you don't buy a monthly package, are ridiculous.

Do I want more competition in the Canadian cell phone provider market? Absolutely. I'm just not convinced that Verizon is a good "answer" as a #4 for Canada, especially if they get to come in to Canada without having to build the cross-country infrastructure that Bell, Rogers and Telus have had to for years.

August 16, 2013 @ 12:35 PM

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I won't name my sources... but they're beyond reproach.

August 16, 2013 @ 12:50 PM


Sorry Argie. Myself and a long time great friend (and others) shall be sailing the "Lulz Boat" (really) as we navigate the inside channel in BC. We then loop up over the top of Haida Gwaii & sail down the true left coast (open ocean) to the Strait of Juan De Fuca then back to Snug Cove. It's my first venture into real sailing and I'm as green as they come.

You'd love my buddy Argie. He's a penetration tester (offensive security hacker) & a man of the sea. Big fan of motorbikes too. Next year we're finally going to ride the Dempster. We shall sail north, dining on fresh fish & veggies while heading north. Ah the chatter on the VHF radio as we sail the left coast (the best coast).

While I'm gone Argie I'm leaving you in charge bro. Take care of everything & we brought the dog (Nugget, my Pug) so no need to worry about him.

I suppose I could channel a modem via VHF Argie to update things but meh. Too much effort. Be good while I'm gone

August 16, 2013 @ 12:53 PM


Irv, as a narcissist it must be lonely in your world. It is a surprise that you embark on this quest with others, however it is not a surprise that the other is a man. During you exodus I leave you with some advice;

Learn to put your needs first. This can be difficult, especially if you have a spouse and children. Obviously you can't complete forget about your family's needs; however, you can put aside some time for yourself everyday.

Take a break. Schedule some quiet time to be alone with yourself. Put away thoughts about work, family obligations and all the other stress in your life. Focus on you. Think about what you'd do with your life if there were no obstacles. Decide how you would spend your time if money wasn't an issue.

August 16, 2013 @ 1:01 PM


@Toronto Mike

I've read the comments..I've laughed and I've cried (cried laughing). If there is any truth there its few and far between.

Also can you pass on to your "sources" that encore shows don't cut with regular listeners...

August 16, 2013 @ 1:25 PM

Al The Royal Pain


Thanks! We're a cover band so we don't have any original stuff recorded. We do plan on posting some recordings of our live performances, we just haven't had the chance yet. Either the lighting in venues is too low, or sound quality isn't great. Hopefully we will soon.

August 16, 2013 @ 1:41 PM


Even without sources, it's obvious that TS leaving the show wasn't his choice. People who decide to part amicably don't have their entire existence wiped out overnight and are never mentioned again.

August 16, 2013 @ 1:55 PM


Wayner, can't be them. He said "beyond reproach" ;)

I don't mind the vacations ... got lots of other podcasts and music to catch up on.

August 16, 2013 @ 2:33 PM


@Al The Royal Pain

I'm trying to get back into seeing live music...other than the standard (and expensive)stadium shows...And I cant't always go to the Horseshoe.

If I can make it down I will drop in...

August 16, 2013 @ 2:39 PM


@Wayner -- this is my bible:

August 16, 2013 @ 3:10 PM



Thank you...its been favourited.

Does anyone one know what happened to the "the Old Soul"? They were playing various places around TO around 2007/08 but I've heard nothing from them.

Their website appears dead...

August 16, 2013 @ 3:50 PM



Thanks for your concern dude, but the "other" party coming along is my wife & my buddies wife. There is a reason I have a back seat on my bike bro. This trip is sort of a test to confirm if boating is for me. BOAT = bring out another thousand. This will be my first trip outside the sheltered waters of the inside channel. If you've never sailed it, I recommend you do. No place on earth is as beautiful as BC.

BTW dude, I have a very fortunate life. I live in the best area of Canada (West End of Vancouver). I can go skiing on Grouse Mountain & sea kayaking on the same day. For the many years I worked in plain old IT, I got to work/travel all across Canada. How many guys get to work in Whitehorse or Yellowknife & experience that lifestyle? Cariboo smoked in a teepee sure tastes good. Now, the type of technology I do makes this world a better & hopefully safer place. Sure, I probably see the world around me in a more paranoia way than you but that's reality. It's you that is sheltered and unaware. But when I sit reflecting my world on a Robson Street patio I feel good about what I do. No regrets

Dunno brother, maybe you aspire to have that "middle class suburban life" and see that as normal. Not me. Sitting on a boat, cooking a freshly caught fish is a beautiful life. Cruising a lonely Yukon highway on a Hog, CBC North playing on the radio is the beautiful life. You probably don't understand "FOSS". It means Free & Open Source Software. I try to live in the mindset of FOSS. FOSS is software developed not for economic benefit but for creating a better computer & internet experience. 75% of the internet is run on it. I model my life around it. "Code" your life as you want it & success will usually follow.

August 16, 2013 @ 3:51 PM


PS dude. Always USE LINUX !!!

August 16, 2013 @ 3:55 PM


We need a FLASH MOB for Saturday Aug. 17 @7:30PM @ Christie Pits to support the Leafs in game 6 of the IBL. They are down 3-2 & need to win to extend. Anyone know how to start one?

Mike, do u have contacts? This baseball is better than watching the Jays.

August 16, 2013 @ 4:11 PM

Al The Royal Pain


If you do come, make sure you introduce yourself. I'm always interested in meeting people that I only know online, in person.

That goes for anyone else here who is thinking of coming by tomorrow night.

In case you didn't know, I'm the singer.

August 16, 2013 @ 4:24 PM

4x4 Time

At a funeral today for a friend I have known for 30 years or so. 56 Years old...Good shape, non smoker, regular exerciser etc..Heart attack, his wife found him in the car in the driveway when she came home Monday night...Life is short my friends.

August 16, 2013 @ 8:36 PM


Mike, I think your intial instincts of Adam Lind were correct.

He isn't a everyday first basemen.

Hes a capable platoon player, pinch hitter, or backup DH/1B just not a regular player.

Hopefully the Jays won't pick up his option and start looking for a first basemen in the off season as well as a left fielder, and catcher, and 3 starting pitchers, and.........ugh.

August 16, 2013 @ 9:24 PM

Rick C in Oakville

@4x4, my condolescences to you, these types of things seem to affect you more as you approach the same age. Far too young for sure to have this happen. When I was 40, 56 seemed old but now that I am 52 it seems very young to have this happen.

August 16, 2013 @ 10:34 PM


Not to belabour the point, but here are the top 20 annoying Facebook-isms.

Good list.

August 17, 2013 @ 8:02 AM


I know Bell was a monopoly. There was no choice but Bell. Well, good that's changed. I keep telling you to get Primus. I would get a cellphone from Primus if I needed one. They're the best.

Well, Diamondbacks lost again last night. They're hopeless. They won't make the playoffs, but I don't care. Hockey starts in a month and a half. Football starts before that though. Hope the Arizona Cardinals do okay this season. A superbowl would be nice for them.

August 17, 2013 @ 8:34 AM

4x4 Time

@Glen..Of course the Jays have been disappointing this year and frustrating to watch. I agree Lind is not a 7 Million dollar player and the Jays should not pick up his option.

It will be interesting to see if AA qualifies Josh at 14 Million and hopes he signs elsewhere so the Jays get a compensating pick. Big risk though with the year he has had.

Arencibia does nothing for me a catcher with his constant defense errors. But, they have no one ready in the minors, and no stud free agent catcher is going to come here right now. I would sign Buck, and get him to teach and mentor Arencibia.

Melky is signed for next year, and with his wonky knees on astroturf, we can expect pretty much the same next year I think.

Maybe it is time to trade Bautista in the off season while his value is high. They should be able to get a decent return, a couple of roster players and high prospects.

August 17, 2013 @ 9:00 AM


@ toronto mike
Have you read all the comments on the TS firing? Some of them are really serious and likely completely untrue as they are posted anonymously (rehab/gay/abuse).

Do you ever consider deleting some... maybe it's freedom of speech? Just asking.

August 17, 2013 @ 9:01 AM

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I'll typically leave the ridiculous comments intact unless they cross the line by mentioning Dean's home address or making a specific threat.

My thought is that nobody will nor should believe an anonymous comment on a blog simply because it was written. There's no expectation of journalistic integrity.

August 17, 2013 @ 9:13 AM

Jason from Sudbury

Going back to the touch screen infotainment system discussion. Just stumbled across this.

August 17, 2013 @ 2:18 PM


"My thought is that nobody will nor should believe an anonymous comment on a blog simply because it was written. There's no expectation of journalistic integrity."

Yet an anonymous comment from Rinse in March is like the holy grail on this blog. Typical.

August 17, 2013 @ 3:06 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


Rinse's comment is totally different.

It became credible only after certain details were confirmed.

August 17, 2013 @ 3:13 PM

Mississauga Phil

@ Frank-Other than the rinse comment, which became relevant after the fact and was actually cited in a legitimate news story if I recall, I can't think of a single time a comment made on this blog, by either a regular or an anonymous person has been treated like a "holy grail" pleae elaborate on how this is typical....or are you just trolling? ?

August 17, 2013 @ 9:52 PM


Well, Diamondbacks won last night. Not that it helps things. They won't make the playoffs. Anyway, Daniel Briere will really help my habs a lot. Probably he'll get 40 to 50 goals, something like that.

August 18, 2013 @ 8:39 AM

Jason from Sudbury

I'm on the fense about Briere. It might have been a good pick up by the Habs I dont know we'll see but he won't score 50 goals.

August 18, 2013 @ 9:31 AM


I'm glad I wasn't drinking right now! Would've needed a new keyboard after that!

Briere might get 40 or 50 points not goals.

August 18, 2013 @ 11:37 AM

Mississauga Phil

@Cheryl- Briere isn't going to get 40-50 goals. The last time he got anything near 40 goals was the 97-98 season (15 years ago) when he scored 36. Last season (a shortened one but still) he got 6, the season before he got 16.

Please ask Mayor Ford to stop passing you the crack pipe

August 18, 2013 @ 1:30 PM

Rick C in Oakville

Don't be too hard on Cheryl guys, she probably meant points as Matt pointed out. She does have a passion for certain sports I must admit.

August 18, 2013 @ 2:19 PM


I know we've beaten this dead horse a few too many times - but what the hell....

High-lights from my f/b feed of this weekend:
- someone scored a big goal in his under 4 soccer game!!!
- someone has another ice cream!!!
- someone got a new bike!!!
- someone was tired but they ran a 15K anyway....

Christ, why do I bother?

August 18, 2013 @ 7:42 PM

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As I see it, that's what Facebook is for!

If you can't post that you got a new bike on Facebook for your friends and family, what's the point?

I manage this blog, a Twitter feed and a Facebook page, but I manage them each differently.

Facebook is where you share things with friends and family that would bore people who don't know you as well to tears. I don't really care about a kid scoring a big goal in his under 4 soccer game, but if my nephew does it, I want to read about it!

August 18, 2013 @ 8:01 PM


Well, you never know. I like Briere. He was with the Coyotes a while back. He has speed. He'll help my Habs a lot. I just know he will.

August 18, 2013 @ 8:11 PM


I hear ya Mike but here's the thing. I've done those things (got a new expensive bike, ran 15K and my kids have ate ice cram and scored a few goals in soccer but I've always assumed no one else would give a damn.

I send a picture of my kids to my mom every once in a while and occasionally will include my siblings. I figure my family cares about this stuff - my friends and acquaintances likely don't give two shits about these things.

What I want to know is this - why do these annoying people assume their friends and acquaintances will give a shit???

I also do this rant for humour. Some people might appreciate it and some might be offended because they're those annoying people I'm ranting about.

August 18, 2013 @ 8:20 PM

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How many Facebook friends do you have?

August 18, 2013 @ 9:48 PM



I have enough, thanks.

August 18, 2013 @ 10:02 PM


- someone got a new bike!!!
- someone was tired but they ran a 15K anyway....

Both these things would interest me haha. I miss running. I'm 31 but my guts may as well by 90. For some reason cycling doesn't affect my stomach badly though.

August 19, 2013 @ 12:42 AM

Ben Vidal

@Argie: Don't worry I agree with you completely someone getting a new bike and running 15K doesn't matter to anyone. Well anyone except Markosaar, whatever floats his boat I guess. Those comments infuriate me more than I could have any potential interest.

I guess when peoples lives have become so small there is a need to feel important by posting via facebook. Something tells me that most of these people would also be the same people that became depressed if their cell phone wasn't ringing off the hook with calls and texts.

My all time fav's are "Worst day ever!!!'. Then people ask whats wrong, as if they actually care. To which the person responds "Everything". Those very same people continue to prod for everyone to see and finally the person with the worst day ever lets everyone know. Usually the worst day ever involves a situation where someone saw their ex post a picture on facebook of their new significant other and more than 10 people liked the photo and/or commented.

@ Mike: It doesn't matter the # of Facebook friends you have. The tendency is that the people with nothing else to do who, post useless things that Argie mentioned. When you are out truly enjoying life and beyond happy, your last thought would be to post something on Facebook with an end result need for likes and comments.

The types of comments Argie mentioned would be ok in isolation or at infrequent times. The problem is those types of comments come from the same people ALL THE TIME. End result; clogged newsfeed with boring, unoriginal, and utterly atrocious posts.

15 years ago when there was no Facebook, no one would have cared if your kid scored a goal in his under 4 game, except Markosaar.

Which is why no one would have picked up the phone and placed a call to all of their family and close friends to let them know. So why is it ok for facebook?

August 19, 2013 @ 8:38 AM

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@Ben Vidal

I only bring up the number of friends because sometimes people let that number get out of control.

If you prune and only keep the people you actually care about, those 15km run entries are far less boring.

Some people start adding friends of friends and people they met once at a social gathering and next thing you know your wall is full of tedious updates by people you don't give a shit about.

Also, lists are awesome on Facebook. Create a list of those friends you really, really like and bookmark it... that becomes your new wall you'll check daily and you'll find it far less boring.

August 19, 2013 @ 9:18 AM

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Here's a little more on how I check my Facebook feed. It's made a huge difference.

August 19, 2013 @ 9:20 AM


Well stated Ben!

Here's another example - its a classic. This status update came in last night:

"We just got back from 5 weeks at our home in Barbados to devastation. Our home in Burlington had been flooded from the upstairs washroom and the water damage was so severe, it had gone through the bricks to the outside of the house and made it's way right down to the basement. Some ceilings and walls had collapsed.
This has been a very painful yet humbling experience when you think of people who lose their house to fires. We will have to stay in a hotel or an apartment, most likely until December. Right now we are just trying to get our head around this and be a strong family."

Firstly, who has time to update their f/b status if your home is in ruins? Secondly, if you're trying to illicit sympathy from your "friends", you might want to leave out the parts about "your home in Barbados" and your "5 week vacation". Of course, being a school principal allows her these luxuries but wouldn't you think she should understand the concept of irony?

August 19, 2013 @ 9:38 AM

Mississauga Phil

A Principal has a HOME in Barbados???

Our tax dollars at work my friends....

August 19, 2013 @ 10:43 AM


Whining about Facebook: first world problems

August 19, 2013 @ 10:56 AM


I solved my Facebook problem very simply. I have an account, so the people who insist I need one don't need to get uppity with me. The important crap, like birthdays, are emailed to me. I have a third party client that connects me to FB Chat, for the folks who only insist on communicating with me that way--when I remember to connect it, that is. For everything else, I've got two phone numbers and an email address. If it's earth-shatteringly important, it's found me in one of those three places.

Facebook could otherwise implode tomorrow and the only way I'd notice is listening to everyone else around me go absolutely nuts. Yes, that means I get nagged every so often re: I should have known about X because it was all over Facebook. to which I just shrug and remind them I don't live on Facebook, and if they had to call me to remind me to check Facebook, they coulda just told me right there and then. It usually solves that problem, at least temporarily.

August 19, 2013 @ 11:21 AM


@ mark

I know we're just bitching for the sake of bitching but I get a laugh out of Ben's rants and I hope others get a laugh out of what I write. Its open mike and we're suppose to rant/bitch about what's going on.

The stuff people post on Facebook makes it really easy to rant. Its "comedy gold", I tells ya!

August 19, 2013 @ 11:32 AM


@Phil - are you sure that's the only reasonable explanation? That this principal has a home in the Barbados, ergo our tax dollars are going towards paying obscene salaries that allow principals to live lives of luxury?

August 19, 2013 @ 12:31 PM

Mississauga Phil

@ Corey - If it looks like a duck.....

August 19, 2013 @ 1:17 PM



I'm not Phil, but I'd argue if teachers are making $90000/year, which could aford a more than decent mortgage in Ontario a couple times over unless they went hog wild, it probably isn't much of a stretch.

August 19, 2013 @ 1:18 PM

Ben Vidal

@ Phil: Sorry, but that's not a very credible defence. The principal couldn't have inherited money? The home could have been in the family for generations? Or perhaps her husband is well off from his job? Or could have inherited the money? Very very very big stretch to make the assertion.

Can I ask you Phil? Do you have a problem with tax incentives for big businesses? Because you should be just as judgmental about companies that have been given massive tax credits or deferrals from any level of government. Pick gas and oil, massive government subsidies for these companies. Then the companies go around and pay executives more money than most of us can dream about? Fair? That's yours and my tax dollars at work.

@ James: Some teachers are making close to $90K thats not the majority. Afford a decent mortgage where? Lucan or Exeter Ontario? Head to Oakville and travel east 90K certainly doesn't afford you a life of luxury. Let alone affording someone the ability to pick up a nice little Barbados beach property.

August 19, 2013 @ 1:36 PM


I will agree with Phil and James that ON teachers have it pretty good. However, like any profession, some are worth it - and some not so much.

A high school principal like my "friend" makes well over $100K. That won't make her rich but it is a nice living. I have no idea if her second home is from family or not and I don't know what her husband does for a living.

I just thought it was ironic that she was posting her troubles to the world while stating she had the entire summer off and a second home in Barbados. Life doesn't suck so much for her after all....

August 19, 2013 @ 1:55 PM

Ben Vidal

@ Argie: Agree completely with your last statement, her profession had nothing to do with what I got from your story. Your last paragraph sums it up nicely.

August 19, 2013 @ 1:59 PM


@Argie you're right and all. I apologise, I'm cranky. Pulled an all-nighter for a work deadline.


The thing about teachers is that their starting salaries are out of whack with the private sector, and are guaranteed to be making something like $75K after ten years.

I'm jealous -- all my teacher friends own homes. It's rare amongst everyone else.

August 19, 2013 @ 2:21 PM


@Ben and Argie-

Yes - the point of the story is someone openly complaining about misfortune when they already are leagues ahead of most folks. Somehow it got turned into how our tax dollars being squandered on providing principals with pots of money.

August 19, 2013 @ 2:22 PM

Mississauga Phil

@ Ben - Yes..yes i do have a problem with tax incentives for big business.

However, 2 wrongs don't make a right. I have a problem with any profession that has it better off than 90% of the rest of us, and then cry poor and overworked every time their lush gov't contracts come up.

I've known teachers that have changed peoples lives, and I've known teachers who are so clearly in it for the sweet contracts and summers off.....

August 19, 2013 @ 2:24 PM

Mississauga Phil

@ Corey - But our tax dollars ARE squandered providing many with pots of money, not just principals, not even just educators, but this particular comment was regarding a principal complaining about ANYTHING after a 5 week vacation at their 2nd home in Barbados.

August 19, 2013 @ 2:27 PM


@Phil - right you are. We agree - the comment was about "a principal complaining about ANYTHING after a 5 week vacation at their 2nd home in Barbados."

So the "our tax dollars at work" bit was pointless. Good that we cleared that up.

August 19, 2013 @ 2:33 PM


My main problem with her update was that she rushed to facebook to tell everyone of the "devastation" of her house.

It won't be long before I see someone post "Just got back from the doctors. Yep, the tests are positive - I have cancer!!!".

August 19, 2013 @ 2:34 PM

Mississauga Phil

@ Corey - No, there was an absolutely a point to that comment

August 19, 2013 @ 2:35 PM


@Phil - okay, then I'm confused. What was the point? That you think that public sector employees get paid too much? As Ben pointed out, you can't make that conclusion based on Argie's neighbour's situation, so it would seem we've gone off on a tangent. But wait, this IS an Open Mike, so you could start a fresh comment like, "I think teachers get paid too much because (yada, yada)."

August 19, 2013 @ 2:55 PM

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