School's On Open Mike

Open MikeThat was a fun little scramble this morning getting the kids to school. How was your morning?

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dizi izle

No kids... no reason to worry about school strikes... life is good.

In my life, it's all about me, and I like it that way. :P

January 11, 2013 @ 9:10 AM

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@dizi izle

You have the right to live a childless life. I've chosen a different path...

And that meant going to bed last night thinking the kids would just hang with me today while I worked from home. Then, at 7:30ish I wake up to learn that school is open.

You should have seen my son when he realized I wasn't joking at 7:30 when I told him he had to get up and get ready for school. He was not amused.

January 11, 2013 @ 9:15 AM


How ironic that the two biggest goofball stories revolve around a person with the last name "Spence".

One is a portly women who has become the only person in history to actually gain weight while on a supposed "hunger" strike and the other a serial plagiarizer.

Oh and the name of the movement "Idle No More" is dripping with irony.

Like I've always said, it was the best of times, it was the worst of times. That's right, that was me.

January 11, 2013 @ 9:17 AM


I think you mean "It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times."

January 11, 2013 @ 9:20 AM

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I was just thinking these comments need more Simpsons references.

January 11, 2013 @ 9:23 AM

Nigel Trousershrapnel

Public relations nightmare for the teachers. Any support they might have had is quickly evaporating. Using the kids to prove a point and then jerking around their parents is definitely the move that will bite them in the ass. Fighting with a lame duck government is dumb dumb dumb. The threat of a $2000 fine opened some eyes, but it's not about the money.

January 11, 2013 @ 9:24 AM


@Argie - careful pal. One Spence is an indigenous person and the other is black. Repeating negative facts about them means you are a racist.

I saw the news that Humble & Fred are going to be back on the air with some Astral properties. Awesome for them, sincerely. I hope it works out this time, but I selfishly am disappointed about the podcast - they admitted it was suffering in quality during their stint with K-ROCK, so I'm expecting the same thing will happen again. Anyway - don't want to rain on the parade. It is very cool how they've parlayed that podcast.

January 11, 2013 @ 9:50 AM



I love fandangled monkey's.

January 11, 2013 @ 9:51 AM

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Humble and Fred fans will be interested to learn they've signed a new deal with Astral. This replaces the deal they previously had with Rogers.

The Astral deal is neat in that it will put excerpt of the podcast on certain Astral-owned radio stations in the GTA, like Funny 820 in Hamilton, Funny 1410 in London and News Talk 1010 CFRB here in Toronto.

It's also why they're going to have to stop swearing or this deal will become an editor's nightmare. Congrats to my pals Humble and Fred!

More here:

January 11, 2013 @ 9:53 AM

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Sorry, I wrote my comment before seeing yours.

The difference here is they're going to try and cut their terrestrial radio bits from their podcast. So it won't be like two shows, it will be one longer show (a cleaner show that the CRTC won't freak out about) and they'll carve chunks out of that. It's very different from the K-Rock model, in which they recorded two separate shows each day.

January 11, 2013 @ 9:56 AM


The teacher's union gets the bulk of the blame on the issue regarding today. I guess the high school teachers will be at work next Wednesday. There is no political will at Queen's Park to use any kind of enforcement against the union, who knew damned well that the timing worked in their favour to, at the very least, create confusion and stress because of the short timeframe. Regardless of the outcome in the court yesterday (this morning), damage was inflicted on the public. Teachers now know that what their union wanted them to do was illegal, and that their union leader "knew or should have known" that. As with similar issues, expect an appeal from the union. Great use of the teachers' dues. It's all about the students.

January 11, 2013 @ 9:56 AM


I still chuckle every time I see the words teachers and union together. Some professions cry out for a union (steel workers, electricians, construction, coal miners, etc). A union is not needed for a guy who goes to work in a sweater vest at 9 am and leaves at 3:30.

Oh, and he also gets 2 months off in the summer.

January 11, 2013 @ 10:05 AM

519 Rob

What a schmozzle of a morning.

I agree with those that have said that what little 'good will' the teachers had is slowing evaporating.

Along the same lines, I had a good laugh on the FB page of the Teachers Federation yesterday.

They (of course) had their rant about how the government is this, and the government that...when a few 'regular' folks decided to chime in.

One of their posts had a few grammatical and spelling errors. Nothing major, just the regular stuff you screw up when posting without spell check.

Well, the teachers started on this poor person, insulting them over their bad spelling and grammar.

Before I had a chance to post it, someone else quickly came to this persons defence, pointing out that the teachers, who are supposed to be advocates for eliminating bullying were doing the EXACT same thing.

Stay classy, teachers.

January 11, 2013 @ 10:08 AM


I feel for the teachers... they're great. I know many personally.

But their union? Not so great.

January 11, 2013 @ 10:30 AM


Can you really call it a hunger strike when you eat soup?

January 11, 2013 @ 10:32 AM

karim kanji


Yeah, today was my version having the quarterback calling an audible. What started as a day that was going to be spent at the Ontario Science Centre turned into something totally different.

Who to blame for this mess? The unions or the government? Regardless, the teachers, students and parents get stuck in the middle.


January 11, 2013 @ 10:32 AM

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That's exactly what it felt like.

I modified the day expecting the kids to be around and then called the audible in the morning.

Then at 8am I remembered lunches and then realized they had a lunch day at school pre-planned.

My son glared at me and said "they can't do this - I'm not going".

He went.

January 11, 2013 @ 10:37 AM

Blind Dave


I laughed so loud at the hunger strike comment, my wife had to come and see what was going on. There's a valid reason I call it "Idle Forevermore."

We got walloped with a pile of snow yesterday and last night. Waist high drifts, cars abandoned on streets, and many highways closed. I had to wade through one of those drifts to get to my snow scoop, as it was buried too!

January 11, 2013 @ 10:40 AM

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@Blind Dave

Snow, you say?

12°C here tomorrow...

January 11, 2013 @ 10:46 AM


love this spring in january

January 11, 2013 @ 11:04 AM

Jason from Sudbury

Newfoundland is also getting hammered with a storm, already 40 cm so far, could be 100 by the time it's all over along with 100 km/hr winds. Just talked to a friend that lives out there, he says it started yesterday afternoon at about 3 and it hasn't stopped.

January 11, 2013 @ 11:15 AM

Dawn Keibals

Two positive things for the next 2 days: The Phoenix Bums will loose tonight & it will be sunny & warm tomorrow!!

January 11, 2013 @ 11:15 AM

Jason from Sudbury

Newfoundland is also getting hammered with a storm, already 40 cm so far, could be 100 by the time it's all over along with 100 km/hr winds. Just talked to a friend that lives out there, he says it started yesterday afternoon at about 3 and it hasn't stopped.

January 11, 2013 @ 11:15 AM

Jason from Sudbury

Not sure how but somehow my comment got posted twice.

January 11, 2013 @ 11:17 AM

Dawn Keibals

Two positive things for the next 2 days: The Phoenix Bums will loose tonight & it will be sunny & warm tomorrow!!

January 11, 2013 @ 11:17 AM

test comment


January 11, 2013 @ 11:19 AM


Ok, totally unrelated to news of the week (Spence with plagiarism, Spence with meet/no-meet the GG, BB fired, NHL strike over, teacher's strike, AWOL chef, etc.), but I heard about a new conspiracy this week - that the Sandy Hook massacre was an inside job. Government and/or New World Order planned in order to start gun confiscation or some such insane nonsense. Sometimes news like this makes me want to get off this train.
Then a Simpsons quote brings me back.

January 11, 2013 @ 11:23 AM


I miss the days when Open Mikes were all about Rob Ford.

When's the decision on his appeal coming down?

And @Gump: if you believe Sandy Hook was an inside job you likely believe the moon landing was filmed in hollywood.

Some people just don't believe anything is as it seems.

January 11, 2013 @ 12:09 PM

Blind Dave


Yup, I heard about that. I have all sorts of family in the Toronto-Barrie-Orillia area.

My niece just asked why the hell I live out here. It's something to do with a red-headed hottie...

January 11, 2013 @ 12:14 PM

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I have a question for everyone.

Did you get a flu shot?

Anyone who reads this blog or listens to my podcast know I'm a big proponent of the flu shot. The flu outbreak this season is particularly bad and it's never made more sense to get the flu shot. Heck, you can walk into a Pharma Plus and get one from the pharmacist and it will cost you nothing.

So tell me, did you get one? And if not, remind me why...

January 11, 2013 @ 12:17 PM


@ Mike - No flu shot. Never have. I'm not fundamentally opposed or anything like that, but I never consider getting one. I'm probably jinxing myself by commenting on this, but I work in downtown T.O. I ride the GO train there and back everyday. I'm exposed to hundred and hundreds of people, in close proximity daily, and I just do not get sick, ever. I don't have kids to worry about, and my wife gets the shot every year anyway. That's about it.

January 11, 2013 @ 12:44 PM

Pete McPhedran


The 5-odd people that I know and talked to that got the flu shot this year and get it every year, got the flu this year worse than anyone I know.

I couldn't figure it out at first, but then I remembered, oh yeah, they gave them last years flu.

Don't get a flu shot, it's the governments way of tracking you through the airport.


PS for those that don't know, that last paragraph was sarcasm. And also, no, I do not get a flu shot.

January 11, 2013 @ 12:46 PM

Blind Dave

Nor I.

January 11, 2013 @ 12:49 PM

Nigel Trousershrapnel

I get the flu shot every year. The reason being that my mother is 86 and vulnerable to many ailments, so if an annual needle might prevent her getting sick, it would be selfish of me to do otherwise.
Having said that, I don't care what anybody else does regarding the shot. Get it or don't get it, nobody's business but your own.

January 11, 2013 @ 1:02 PM


Yes, I got my flu shot back in November, but then got a bad cold last week. It's getting better, but cough is still there. I get the shot every year though. Well, my Suns better win tonight. They really have to. I'm tired of them losing and losing. No teacher strike affects me. I'm single and childless. I don't go to school. It means nothing. My trainer gave me a late Christmas present. He got me a baseball glove and a baseball. He says he will show me how to use it when the weather is nice. I hope I don't find playing baseball boring. I know watching it sure is boring. It just drags on. Oh well, I guess if I get bored playing it, I can sell the ball and glove. I don't know. He said we will play catch or something like that.

January 11, 2013 @ 1:06 PM

Blind Dave


Try it, you might like it! I know lots of folks who don't watch sports on tv, but love to get out there and just play and have fun!

January 11, 2013 @ 1:26 PM


Like Corey, I'm probably jinxing myself here but I don't get sick - except maybe a few sniffles here and there. I think if you're old or have current health issues, it might be a good idea to get it but for the rest of us healthy, good looking people, its not necessary.

Besides, isn't the flu scare a new world order conspiracy perpetrated by the Zionist, Masons and the UN???

January 11, 2013 @ 1:30 PM



Not fond of all the crap that goes into the flu shot.
Not that you should believe everything you read or watch on the internet, however, there might a be a grain of truth in there somewhere.

Also, the flu shot usually contains last years flu.

I never get the shot and rarely get sick. If you keep your body in balance by eating 60% alkaline foods (vs acidic foods) your body should be strong enough to fight off anything coming your way.

This post comes to you from inside my plastic bubble.

January 11, 2013 @ 1:54 PM


No flu shot for me.

January 11, 2013 @ 2:31 PM


I was really hoping that McGuinty would do a "Ronald Reagan" and fire any teachers that walked off the job today.

January 11, 2013 @ 2:34 PM


Flu shot is pointless.. For the second year in a row (and possibly 3rd) they get the wrong strain and you're protected against something that isn't even a threat.

January 11, 2013 @ 3:15 PM

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The flu shot is about 50%-60% effective, but it's the best show in town. It's better to take something that's 50%-60% effective than nothing at all. Getting the flu shot is far from pointless.

January 11, 2013 @ 3:26 PM

Blind Dave


My wife works in the system as a school assistant. When we had labour troubles out here last year, the teachers took a lot of flak, but it's the union that pulls the strings. The teachers must do as they are told, regardless of whether they are a hawk or a dove. No one will cross the picket line and disobey the union.

Most of the teachers I know personally are damn good at their job, and they do their job for the reward of teaching the next generation. They are, overall, a very dedicated group of people.

And yes, I'm all for unions for coal miners, construction workers etc., but not for teachers and the like.

Um, I just realized this is the second time in this Open Mike that I've agreed with Argie. Hey dude, stop making sense! :)

January 11, 2013 @ 3:27 PM

Mississauga Phil

No Flu shot here, haven't had wrose than a cold in 5-6 years.

January 11, 2013 @ 4:00 PM


Well, maybe I will like getting out there and playing baseball, who knows. I just know that watching it is so boring. One guy bats, and the pitches are really slow, and it could take up to 20 or more pitches to get him out, or it seems like that anyway. The game could go on forever and ever. Well, I hope playing baseball is going to be good. Anyway, my doctor recommends I get the flu shot. He thinks everyone should get it so I get it every year. I wish it would stop the common cold as well though.

January 11, 2013 @ 4:52 PM

Pete McPhedran

@Cheryl The flu shot will never protect you from getting a cold. That would be a cold shot and those are sold by Molson and they won't protect you from getting a cold.


January 11, 2013 @ 5:05 PM

4x4 Time

Oscar Peterson Trio - Night Train 45rpm LP...WOW!

January 11, 2013 @ 6:29 PM


I agree with all of those who have posted that the fiasco this morning with the no school/school situation is going to backfire on the teachers/teacher's union. At least Peel was on top of things and we were advised at 6 am that school was a go. My Halton friends found out at 7:30 that school was open. How do you react with that sort of warning?

And to top it off, my son watched a movie. Seriously? WTF.

I am on the fence about the flu shot, although we all had one this year. Our doctors are of the opinion that it doesn't matter one way or the other, I would guess because if the flu vaccine manufacturers choose the wrong strain, then you have wasted your time.

My advice for people? Wash your hands, have separate towels for each person in your household, separate tooth paste tubes as well. (This is on top of eating well, exercising, etc.) Knock on wood, my hubby was sick last week, so far the rest of us have avoided it.

Enjoy your weekend everyone!

January 11, 2013 @ 7:07 PM


Due to my fear of jumping into the fray of the pro/anti flu vaccine argument, I haven't commented before.
But here is science :

If you fear that big pharma is 'behind' the flu shot and is totally unnecessary then you should also believe that evolution is just a 'theory' and we lived side-by-side the dinosaurs 4,000 years ago.

Science isn't scary, ignorance is.

January 11, 2013 @ 7:14 PM


I said no to the flu shot at my check up. My Dr. asked. She responded to my 'No' with indifference.

I couldn't tell the kid this morning that he had to go. He played at a friends house.

I may give H&F another (5th, 6th) chance.

January 11, 2013 @ 7:29 PM


Mike - Your stat is wrong.. It's not 50-60 more effective.. In fact this year it about 5%.. Every year they guess at what strain on the flu will hit the certain area. This year they guessed wrong.. Again...

62% of most health care workers don't even get it.. Their a lot more knowledgeable in this field than we are. That should tell you something.

January 11, 2013 @ 8:20 PM

Rick C in Oakville

I have to agree with Corey and Argie on the flu shot. I don't get sick, and never have taken it. Never needed a sick day either, and everyone around me is coughing and sneezing, probably just lucky in the Gene pool selection I guess. I do need hair though.
As for the teachers debate, wasn't it quite convenient the way it all played out, I guess the teachers get a pay day too, even though most of my colleagues and family didn't send their kids to school because all they would be doing is watching movies and doing diddly squat. Glad my kids are beyond this fiasco. Some how I remember the Liberals going after one John Snobolen with his fabricate a crisis in Education, I think the Liberals have been stealing (Plagiarizing?) from the Mike Harris play book, Harris is looking like a red Tory now.
Argie, loved your posts on the Spence's, like Blind Dave I nearly wet my self laughing

January 11, 2013 @ 8:27 PM


I used to get the flu shot every year because of my Mom being in Nursing home my visits with her. The year the H1N1 virus reared its ugly head I decided not to get the shot as still some problems as not being effective enough.

Haven't had a flu shot since & other than colds & minor symptoms of the flu I haven't had a problem. I want my body to build up antibodies on its own to fight off the flu as opposed of injecting into your body. The flu shot only counter reacts to past years flu strains & not THIS years. If I was fine last year, why would I subject myself to this for a new flu strain this year.

January 11, 2013 @ 9:03 PM

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@dale and the rest

The amount of junk science in this thread is alarming.

The flu shot does not give you the flu. Not even a little bit. You're not putting the flu in your body.

And getting the flu shot does not prevent your body from building up any antibodies to fight it on its own.

Junk science is dangerous.

January 11, 2013 @ 10:25 PM


@Toronto Mike
Even this "junk science" has more than a shred of truth. Old, young and ill have reason to take the shot. The rest should take time and really consider.....

January 11, 2013 @ 10:31 PM

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With all due respect, I've never read a single factual and sensible reason to avoid the flu shot if you're not allergic to eggs. Not one.

If you're too busy to get one, okay... and if you're too macho to get one, I hear ya... but don't suggest it's somehow harmful or part of a conspiracy, because it's really not.


January 11, 2013 @ 10:44 PM

not me

Her hunger strike has been going for a while. I was expecting thinner looking press photos. I want to see hunger strikers looking starved. Guess I'm old school.

January 11, 2013 @ 10:53 PM


@not me

I actually think she's gained weight!

January 11, 2013 @ 10:55 PM


I've just been sitting here watching The National, and getting totally bewildered by the Idle No More protests happening. I heard one AFN representative state that the government's goal is to "reduce" the First Nations people to the same level as any other ethnic group.
We celebrate Canada as this amazing, tolerant, multicultural country, but apparently the aboriginals don't want to buy into that. It seems to me that they are the ones who advocate apartheid, but also want all of the benefits of a progressive modern society, and the rest of Canada is required to foot the bill.
We're all taught that these were the indigenous people, because they were here first. Many of us have an idea that north america was some kind of a utopia where people lived peacefully off the land for thousands of years before the European's arrived and destroyed everything. The truth is, of course that there were hundreds and hundreds of different, transient, warring tribes living in incredibly harsh conditions for thousands of years.
Yes, the European settlers did terrible injustice to these people - that is beyond dispute. But the Romans did terrible injustices to my ancestors on the British isles. Human civilization is unfortunately littered with conquering, murder and slavery. We evolve as a society and eventually grow together.
Pouring billions of dollars into this issue has achieved nothing. The reservation system is an abject failure. Whats the solution? I'm rambling now but I seriously do not understand what the AFN wants and I don't believe they know either.

January 11, 2013 @ 10:58 PM


@Corey - the AFN's demands are clear. They are:

The “high-level commitments” the chiefs are seeking from Harper include:

• a new institution through the PMO or the Privy Council Office to look at the implementation and enforcement of treaties;

• designating a minister, possibly Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver, to bring together First Nations and provincial premiers to figure out how they can share revenues from resource development;

• a new “fiscal relationship” that would allow federal funding to increase with inflation and be based on total population living both on and off reserves;

• a public inquiry into missing and murdered aboriginal women;

• ensuring there is a school in every aboriginal community;

• reviewing the sections of recently passed omnibus budget implementation bills that have to do with environmental oversight to see if the Conservative government complied with its duty to consult First Nations.

January 11, 2013 @ 11:30 PM

Dawn Kiebals

Thanks Phoenix Bums for last night (another stinker) Takin' granmama shopping for that new hat she has had her eye on.

January 12, 2013 @ 4:35 AM


Mike...did you ever work for a pharma company??

January 12, 2013 @ 7:09 AM


Jeffrey Simpsons column last week in the Globe and Mail sums up my opinion on the Idle No More Movement.

January 12, 2013 @ 7:37 AM


Quit calling them the Phoenix Bums. That's no good that you call them that. I'm tired of them losing. It's really awful.

Anyway, I guess playing baseball will be more fun than watching it. I guess I put the glove on my left hand and throw the ball with my right. Anyway, my trainer will show me how to do it, but not until the spring so now the ball and glove are just sitting here. If I decide I don't like it, I'll sell it or something, make a little money.

January 12, 2013 @ 7:57 AM

Rick C in Oakville

@Glen, thanks for the article, kind of sums it up plainly. The problem will be that every community will want something different, on their terms as each community has very different challenges. I don't see any settlement probably in my life time, and that given the history of my current family is about 40 years.

January 12, 2013 @ 9:24 AM

Jason from Sudbury

I've only had the flu shot 3 times, the last time being 5 years ago, and I got sick all 3 times, so no more.

January 12, 2013 @ 9:32 AM



Great post - agree 100%.


You forgot one more demand: More and more billions from Cdn taxpayers'.

I say to hell with them.

January 12, 2013 @ 1:37 PM


They say the hockey schedule will be made out this weekend. I don't understand why they can't use the one that was made before the lockout with the canceled games. Anyway, it will be nice to have some hockey back. That lockout was so dumb.

January 12, 2013 @ 5:58 PM


Too nice outside for the internet today.

January 12, 2013 @ 6:16 PM


Say what you want about Brian Burke, he didn't progress the Leafs to a playoff team, he is belligerent, opinionated & yet HONEST with his comments.

Should he have been fired - maybe but not a few days before the start of a season.

I have the utmost respect for Brian for what he has done in the Toronto community with his
involvement & dedication & that's what Burkie reminds me also with his time as GM of the LAFFS.

Another 2-3 years of torment - GO JAYS GO

January 12, 2013 @ 7:34 PM


Well, go Habs go and Go coyotes go. They need to win. I'm not a Leafs fan. They won't win the cup. Baseball is so slow and boring. I sure hope I like playing it better than watching it.

January 13, 2013 @ 7:47 AM



Its too bad he was dancing and prancing in the gay "pride" parade and not a Stanley Cup parade.

Its 4 years the Leafs will never get back.

January 13, 2013 @ 7:59 AM

Blind Dave


You could say that about most of the Leaf eras since 1967. What are the bright spots? One year of Roger Nielson, one run in the late 80s (Doug Carpenter?), the Pat Burns/Doug Gilmour time, and the Pat Quinn era.

The rest, unless anyone can add a bright spot I've missed, is a black hole.


The schedule has to be rearranged due to 1. more division play so it's less travel time in a compact season for most teams, and 2. I wouldn't be surprised if many arenas need to be re-booked, as the arena owners need to generate revenue too.

January 13, 2013 @ 1:23 PM


Oh, so that's why it has to be rearranged. Anyway, that's why the Coyotes playing some games in the east have been canceled. Anyway, at least hockey is back and I can listen to hockey. Leafs at Habs Saturday at 7:00. Can't wait. Go Habs go.

January 13, 2013 @ 4:47 PM


My concern about the flu is that it is a living organism that adapts, and quickly.

You get a flu shot this year, and what happens next? The same strain morphs into something far more virulent. At some point, the vaccine won't work anymore. You get the flu, and what is the worse that can happen? You get sick, throw up, violent cough for a few days and you're over it. Now, you've got a natural anti-body to that particular strain.

An injection of a vaccine is not worth the 3 days of symptoms. A vaccine that is more often wrong than right. I haven't had the flu shot since my wife was pregnant. I've had stomach flue's and wicked colds...but I'm fine. A vaccine would not have prevented them.

January 14, 2013 @ 8:38 AM


Well, I get a flu shot every year and have done so for the last while. My doctor highly recommends it so I never went without it.

January 14, 2013 @ 9:14 AM

Ben Vidal

@ Cambo: Clearly you don't know how the flu shot works. Thanks for perpetuating and ignorant personal view on the flu shot. Do you know what the flu shot is made up of?

As Toronto Mike has often espoused it's not about whether or not you get sick it's about those around especially the old and very young.

As for an injection causing 3 days of symptoms, I would argue that most people do not experience any adverse effects at all.

Lastly how do you know the flu shot wouldn't have prevented what you define as a cold?

This is precisely whats wrong with society everyone is an expert in a field they aren't even part of.

January 14, 2013 @ 9:37 AM

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That's some dangerous misinformation there.

Although the vaccine contains part of the actual flu virus, the virus is dead and cannot give you the flu. And getting the flu shot every year actually helps keep your immune system healthy and prevent you from getting sick. It certainly does not make you vulnerable to future strains.

And like Ben Vidal said, us healthy young people get it to reduce the chances we'll be carriers infecting the young, old and sick we encounter in malls, at work, etc.

And for the record, I didn't even have a sore arm when I got my shot. I had zero side effects.

January 14, 2013 @ 9:55 AM


Think you guess misunderstand what I was saying. Yes I know the flu shot does not cause the flu... or cause you to get sick. What I mean is for me, the is no value in the shot if I can withstand the symptoms for a few days. I'm not talking about the shot side effects.

But thanks for the character assassination just the same.

January 14, 2013 @ 3:55 PM

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Do you really think that was character assassination?

January 14, 2013 @ 4:09 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

Here's a nice write-up explaining the flu, from Mother Jones:

If the flu season has peaked, should I still get a flu shot?

Yes. A typical flu season is 10 to 12 weeks long—so if it just peaked, that means there's still another five or six weeks left. The caveat: The shot takes about two weeks to kick in, so even if you got the shot today, you could still come down with the flu, says Allen. Even if you think you've already had the flu this year, you should get a shot; it's possible (though unlikely) that you could still come down with a different strain.

Can you get the flu from the flu shot itself?

No. That's impossible, since the virus in the shot is not alive. You might get soreness, irritation, or even a fever after the shot, but that's your body reacting to the shot, not the flu.

If so many people get flu shots, how come there's still an epidemic?

This year, a little more than a third of the population got one of the 128 million flu shots that were distributed to clinics nationwide. That's pretty good—but unfortunately the shot is only about 62 percent effective. That's pretty typical for a flu shot, says Allen.

I'm young and healthy. It's not like the flu is going to kill me. So why should I bother with the vaccine?

Herd immunity. If you don't come down with the flu, there's less of a chance that your elderly neighbor, your friend's infant, or your coworker who's going through chemo will.

January 14, 2013 @ 4:17 PM


Don't care about unknown neighbours, won't visit elders until maybe Easter, no friends (also no infants), no co-workers.

January 14, 2013 @ 6:53 PM

Jason from Sudbury

When did the Fan 590 go back to cyndicated programming overnights? Just tuned in and CBS Sports Radio is on now.

January 15, 2013 @ 12:19 AM


My Suns lost another one last night. Why can't they win anything. That's terrible. Oh well, Just a few more days and we'll have hockey, thank goodness. My Habs will beat the Leafs.

January 15, 2013 @ 9:44 AM

Ben Vidal

Hey Mike,

No point discussing with Cambo he clearly doesn't get it. He will also continue to not get the flue shot under the belief that he doesn't need to and it won't affect anyone else. Let him live in a bubble

January 15, 2013 @ 10:46 AM


yes, let him live in a bubble. That's where he belongs. One of these days he will be sorry. Well, just three more days until we finally get some hockey. I can't wait.

January 16, 2013 @ 7:06 AM

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