Thanksgiving Open Mike

Open MikeHappy Thanksgiving long weekend, everyone.

You can say anything you want in these here comments. Voice an opinion, ask me a question or issue your Jerry Maguire-esque mission statement. Go crazy, go nuts.


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Oh Lord, on this blessed day, we thank Thee for giving our family one more crack at togetherness.

October 5, 2012 @ 8:35 AM


The 5 is so light and fast. I can't wait for it to demolish my home wifi.

October 5, 2012 @ 8:51 AM

Not Dean

Turkey for us, crickets for Crumble 'n Debt:

"There are no responses to this message."

Sounds about right...

October 5, 2012 @ 8:52 AM

Lyle Lanley


How ya like those Apple Maps?

October 5, 2012 @ 8:54 AM

Mississauga Phil

@ Not Dean--- You're a tool

October 5, 2012 @ 9:32 AM


Cheddar Cheese on top of apple pie: abomination or divine sensation?

October 5, 2012 @ 10:21 AM


I know its early and only one debate thus far but Obama showed the world what he's made of - and that would be not much. Without the aid of his trusted teleprompter, he "ummed" and stuttered his way though the debate while Romney impressed everyone - even liberals.

I expect the same in the next debate. Go Romney and throw this empty suit out of office.

October 5, 2012 @ 11:04 AM



Definitely not the Obama we’ve come to expect...I was stunned by his performance. Seemed unsure of himself and what he was saying. But it happens when you really can't defend your past record in office.

Romney, however, was free to make all the unsupportable promises and plans as he wished unchallenged….

October 5, 2012 @ 11:40 AM

Jason W.

@ Not Dean - just how jealous are you of H and F? First of all, why would Broadcast Dialogue be interested in crickets, and secondly, the Yellow Board isn't the best resource for what's relevant. Basically, you're a bit of a dick it seems.

October 5, 2012 @ 11:43 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


I'll pass on the cheddar cheese on apple pie.

October 5, 2012 @ 12:38 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


I missed the debate, but from what I've read it sounds like Obama was off his game.

I doubt it matters. He'll win easy. He'll likely bring his A game to the next couple of debates, not that he needs to.

October 5, 2012 @ 12:40 PM


@Lorne - I like cheddar cheese just like vanilla ice cream...a la mode.

October 5, 2012 @ 12:41 PM

Not Dean

media fan = Freddee Pee

Everyone on the Yellow Board knows it, hence the crickets.

** chirp **
** chirp **

October 5, 2012 @ 1:22 PM


..and a lot of people assumed that George Smitherman would easily beat Rob Ford

...If Obama can't bring his "A" game to the table it might be a tighter race than we expect

October 5, 2012 @ 1:33 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


That Rob Ford one got me, b/c I couldn't image our collective votes would work in his favour. I was wrong.

But knowing the Electoral College the way I know it, it's a different animal. Obama can't lose.

October 5, 2012 @ 1:43 PM


Wayner & Mike,

I agree it will be close and Obie might even win but my point is that he can't think on his feet. Give him a speech and a teleprompter, he's gold - without those aids, he's a chump.

Yes, he inherited a mess but under his watch things have actually got worse. All he had to do was improve things somewhat but he hasn't.

October 5, 2012 @ 1:48 PM

Mississauga Phil

Mike is right, Obama is winning hands down....Romney is an out of touch idiot...

Speaking of idiots...hey "Not Dean" did you and Freddie P. work together and he took the last crueller out of the donut box or something...why the hate??

My guess would be you are someone who tried and failed to make it in radio so now you are left taking pot shots at people more succesfull than you...

October 5, 2012 @ 1:49 PM

Mississauga Phil

@ Argie - he got that unemployment rate under 8%, without any help fom the fact they did everything they could to make him fail...if Obama had said "free puppies for all" the GOP would have complained about the fleas....

October 5, 2012 @ 1:51 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

Recorded weeks before I started Toronto Mike'd, I appeared on this new podcast by Mike Wixson and a super funny dude named Caz:

October 5, 2012 @ 2:10 PM


I won't go as far as "chump" but when he loses his eloquence it is painful to watch

..perhps if he was able to point to a boomimg economy under his watch the results would have been different

October 5, 2012 @ 2:10 PM


Who uses a beloved television show that generations have grown up with as an example of egregious government spending? How on earth could Romney basically say to 40 million people that he would happily give Big Bird the boot? And to assume students can just borrow money from their parents for university? I read in some of the pre-debate commentary that Obama's prep team was working very hard with him to try to manage his utter dislike for Romney; apparently he cannot stand him and they were worried he would not be able to conceal that in the debate. Well I can see why. Obama took too much of the high road though, I think many would have liked to have seen him attack back. I agree with Wayner; it's so painful to watch him search for words.

@Lorne love cheddar cheese on apple pie. more than ice cream

October 5, 2012 @ 2:47 PM


Wow, who would have thought Rosie would be for Obama?

October 5, 2012 @ 2:55 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


Is safe to assume most Canadians would prefer Obama wins over Romney.

Our left is way left of Obama. Romney is off the charts here. Compared to Romney, Harper is a pinko.

Regardless, Big Bird doesn't sound like a wise target for Romney. To quote the Baltimore Sun, cutting Big Bird trims the deficit by roughly -- nothing.

October 5, 2012 @ 3:04 PM


Like Romney, Argie spews unsupported "facts". Obama is not a great President but Romney would be worse.

With actual facts, they can not say how America is worse under Obama. Obama has just been pitiful at getting GOP support. However, the GOP have not been open minded about anything.

You just can't lower taxes and expect everything to fix itself. It takes working together and raises taxes and cutting spending. The GOP (as they are today) won't do this. The Democrats lack a spine and backbone to do what is right with cutting spending.

Blame Obama all you want but it is the collective fault of both parties.

October 5, 2012 @ 4:50 PM


Well, Smitherman should have won. He would have been a much better mayor than Ford is. Oh well, now Smitherman isn't doing a lot these days though. Apparently he's just taking it easy, but maybe he'll run for Mayor again and he'll get my vote. Well, my Cardinals lost last night. That's Arizona Cardinals in football. They won their first three games and then go and lose big. Oh well. Grocery Gateway has lots of items that became out of stock. That's no good. All the manager says is be patient. They're still getting things set up at the warehouse, but this has been going on for weeks and weeks. Anyway, I'm thankful I have Primus instead of Rogers or Bell. You guys really should get Primus. They're great. Once you get Primus, you won't be disappointed, and you'll pay a lot less money. They hardly everygo down or anything. I can't say enough good stuff about Primus.

October 5, 2012 @ 5:00 PM

Suburb Steve

Congrats to T.O's Rush (Geddy, Alex and Neil) on their nomination to the RRHOF. Long overdue. I won't hold my breath on them getting in. The hall has long been a joke with the omission of great acts that are passed over year after year. Regardless, it's still pleasing to see three Toronto suburbans finally get a sniff (and not snuffed!)

You can do a lot in a lifetime
If you don't burn out too fast
You can make the most of the distance
First you need endurance
First you gotta last.

- Neil Peart,
First you've got to last

October 5, 2012 @ 5:03 PM


Argie, I thought it was an empty chair, but I like the suit much better.
If Romney's an idiot, then Obama is a Moron! I'd take an idiot anyday.

October 5, 2012 @ 5:32 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

Re: Baseball

I watched zero baseball games this year that didn't involve my Jays, and I didn't follow my Jays as closely as normal.

But now I'm watching the Cardinals and Braves in a wildcard game and I'm loving it. I love playoff baseball.

October 5, 2012 @ 6:33 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

Oh... and I don't have a rooting interest, but I'm cheering for the Cardinals because:

1. In R.B.I. Baseball on the Nintendo, I played as the Cardinals b/c they were speedy
2. I'm still made at the Braves for 1992

October 5, 2012 @ 6:35 PM


@ Lorne - no cheddar cheese, and it has to be "mom's" apple pie. My favourite dessert ever.

October 5, 2012 @ 7:11 PM


suddenly the playoffs don't seem so important.

Terrible news, cant imagine what he is going through.

Pat Neshek ‏@PatNeshek
Please pray for my family. Tonight my wife & I lost our first & only son 23 hours after he was born with no explanation.

October 5, 2012 @ 7:30 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


That's too bad what happened to Pat Neshek, losing his son after 23 hours and not yet knowing the cause, but he's back with the A's for their series against the Tigers.

October 5, 2012 @ 7:36 PM


Anyone have a simple good traditional stuffing recipe for(outside of bird)with no nuts?

Thanks in advance

October 5, 2012 @ 7:55 PM


Ohhh boy. Fans tossing bottles onto the field. Correct call IMO

October 5, 2012 @ 7:56 PM

John Broman

Not Dean IS somebody who badly wanted to be a radio personality and whose dreams have long ago crumbled. Hence the poisonous jealousy towards Humble and Fred - two guys in charge of their own destiny and having a damn good time while making cash. "Not Dean" just can't handle that. I almost feel sorry for him but really hope he gets the counselling he needs. Whenever he posts here it's just a bit more pathetic each time.

October 5, 2012 @ 9:26 PM

Rick C in Oakville

I am truly thankful for my family and friends, a time to reflect on those who really care about you and vise versa.
Happy Thanksgiving to all who frequent Toronto Mike.
And Not Dean too, even though he is a bit bitter over H&F.

October 5, 2012 @ 11:28 PM


@Digger02, courtesy of Alton Brown, from Good Eats special "Romancing the Bird". (Grab a *ahem* copy of that episode if you can, very informative)


October 6, 2012 @ 12:10 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

I'm very proud of Milos right now.

Another game for Milos!!!

October 6, 2012 @ 10:05 AM


Well, I'm not watching any baseball playoffs. No way. Anyway, hope the hockey lockout is over soon. They already canceled two weeks of the season. I hope they won't cancel anymore.

October 6, 2012 @ 10:31 AM


Get a Life!
No Hockey, Curling, Basketball
It's all good!!

October 6, 2012 @ 11:09 AM

Dave Williams

We could only hope that Mitt Romney will defeat Obama. The issue is not Republican vs Democrat, the issue is teh fact that The Obama government cannot reel in its spending. The US debt is over 16 trillion dollars, close to 50% of all tax revenue presently is for servicing of the debt. The Obama campaign in 2008 was to "change" what he preceived was a government that focused on the rich. What Obama has done, is increase debt, drive jobs out of North America, destroy is friendship with Israel, and create a helath care plan that forces people to purchase health insurance, even though these same people cannot afford car insurance, but continue to drive as they need to to work.
Hopefully, if Americans take the time to research who they are voting for, we as a continent will be better off as Mitt Romney is the only choice for an educated public to vote for.

October 6, 2012 @ 3:32 PM

twins from bolton

1 of my son twins going to University of Ottawa proposed to a great girl last night. I'm not surprised & marriage after they graduate in 2013.

The problem is the other "twin" is having problems accepting it as his lifestyle is complete reverse even though he attends college & living at home.

They were VERY close when they were young & when they started growing up they both had their own friends & started drifting apart.

When they both get together which is infrequent lately the LOVE they share is something to behold.

A Special Bond

October 6, 2012 @ 5:14 PM

4x4 Time

In June I got a new vehicle and it came with a 3 month XM Canada sat radio free trial. I had XM on my previous vehicle and enjoyed it and had every intention of keeping it. So XM contacts me, and they offer me a better deal ($99.99 a year) and I tell the guy, sign me up, and continue the payments on my credit card they were already using. Agreed, everything is cool.
Two weeks ago I lose the radio. I have called 6 times. Each time, I am talking with a person who I simply cannot understand. I am repeating and spelling out the activation code and we have no success. I have emaled XM several times asking for help, no reply.
I guess they are doing real well and do not need my business.

October 7, 2012 @ 9:06 AM


Well, sounds like XM has poor customer service just like Rogers, Bell, and Grocery Gateway do. Well, good thing I'm not dealing with this XM stuff. I don't need them anyway.

October 7, 2012 @ 9:59 AM


@Cheryl & 4x4 time

While I sympathize with dealing with said idiots at those companies, what do you expect. Big corporations prime concern is not their customers it's their shareholders.

Truth is, if you really set your mind to it, you can get rid of a lot of these services. Cable can be replaced by Apple TV and a HD antenna (local programming). XM/Sirius can be replaced by any smartphone, a recording app & the radio station or streaming apps (CBC music, any radio station). I drive from Calgary to Vancouver on a very regular basis. My iPhone & CBC Radio 1/2 accompany me on the trip

As for cell phone companies, I'd do this. BUY the smartphone and make sure it's unlocked. Then call up a provider & get a price. When the quote you, say "I own the phone and this price reflects you guys subsidizing the handset, so I want a lower price". You'll get it. And you can cancel anytime & go to a different carrier. And you know what, it's AMAZING how much nicer they are in that situation.

@Dave Williams. You're a robot partisan. Mr Bush inherited a surplus from Clinton which he immediately turned into a monster deficit. All this happened when the economy was strong. It was a Republican congress which nixed the Glass Stegal act thereby allowing banks to hedge at ratios as high as 40:1...creating the "Casino Capitalism" as I like to call it.

These changes to the banking structure gave banks the ability to lend money with less regulation than Money Mart. The American public bought into it & went on a home buying binge with somebody elses money. Well all things must end & they did when Lehman Bros went bankrupt (sometime around Oct 2008). This further depressed US real estate prices. So began a out of control downward spiral. In the middle of it, Obama inherited the mess.

You remind me of a typical Republican. You know, the ones that screamed blue murder when Obama raised the debt ceiling? Of course they never once mentioned Bush requested Congress to do it NINE times. Or how Paul Ryan claims he believes in "small government" yet he supported the bailout of the car companies & the banking/insurance sector. Or how a group of Republican Congress voted against it's OWN bill recently..after Obama mentioned it at the DNC. Oh and let's not forget that TARP (Troubled Assest Relief program) was signed into law by...BUSH. As for health care, well Obama's plan was modeled after..Romney's plan when he was governor of Massachusetts

As for driving jobs out of America, the US consumer did that. They demanded lower prices. To offer lower prices companies simply moved offshore. The party that is most receptive to absolute free trade IS the Republicans. But have no fear, the coming energy shock will fix ALL of this offshore shit.

And in case you think I'm some raging Obama fan, I'm not. I hate all politicians, but I hate their robot partisans even more. And I mean "H A T E". Mr Obama is the better of two bad choices.

You see, I am right wing and I am conservative. Yet it's glaringly obvious that the Cons & Repubs have a serious problem. The Conservatives of today are simple minded Tea Party idiots that have NO business acumen & rely on simplistic slogans that appeal to stupid people.

Want an example? Conbots & Repubs state that the government should NOT be involved with private business. YET, it was Conservative Peter Lougheed who invested public money in the Alberta Oil Sands. Today those oil sands are what keeps this nation solvent. Without them we'd be in the same situation as the USA.

Mind you, a comment like this from you doesn't surprise me. After all, during the "weed is bad" debate, the information you used to defend you position came from a website of an American private "Detox" centre. That's akin to the drug dealers down on Hastings telling me their doing a service selling rock on the block

October 7, 2012 @ 12:00 PM


@Irvine (Oct7 12:00)
Reagan also had raised the U.S.'s debt ceiling... 18 times.
I also agree with your assessment of Ontario and elsewhere Conservatives.

@Toronto Mike (Oct 5 18:33)
I've been watching the New Yankees, OTA in widescreen, nearly every week, from Me-TV's Buffalo affiliate.

@Appropriate (Oct 5 15:18)
As to the PBS Big Bird as the Thanksgiving Dinner cartoon image: I say Great on Romney for his not Borrowing From China line this week!

I would just starting firing 12% of all public workers and management wholesale. Then I would challenge every unit to negotiate an affordable settlement BEFORE its own turn at the Spending-Debt Borrowing knife. And if a teacher, for example, is willing to become a Prinicipal or take a Supervising role - still at more pay than teaching but at the newly lowered amount... they're hired! I can remember when the Bank of Montreal was led by a High School Dropout, when multiple appointed ex-gov't minister Smitherman was widely endorsed to become Toronto's mayor, and afterwards accepted a 6-figure role with Ryerson University, and way back when CBC News' top national anchor, Peter Mansbridge, was also a high school dropout.
We don't need no bloated education; we just need to stop shovelling I, er Future Others, Owe China papers into Today's Other people's pockets.
I live in an older apartment (for now), I ride the bus (when I am not walking for the first 5 Km), I don't have high speed anything. I buy my food when it's marked down or on sale. What? These are neccessities of which other people deserve?
I'll always support funding for the actual disabled a 1000 times over before one dime goes to the usual handouty. Every week brings yet another fresh misery news story of no money being allowed for a serious operation or something.

October 7, 2012 @ 12:56 PM


2nd comment:
My real intention was just to grumble about Chris Brown having his video shown on the Much Music Countdown this week. It was in their top five.
Do kids really worship the likes of Chris Brown's musical genre; or is Canada's only* gov't licenced and cable fee squatting channel (times three) putting only Chris Brown's genre on its service? Meanwhile I can't even watch APTN since it is on Rogers' Analog Channel 129; Vision is on channel 96. Most older TV's converters don't go above 70 or so.

* There are one or two secondary tiered digital music based channels. But don't expect any real challenger to be licenced.

October 7, 2012 @ 1:05 PM


OK, here's one for the record: I agree with the majority of what Irvine posted above. Hell hasn't frozen over/the Maple Losers have not won the Stanley Cup.

October 7, 2012 @ 1:40 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


Irvine has his moments...

October 7, 2012 @ 1:41 PM


@CQ. Why do kids love Chris Brown? Because examples of that type of douchebag behaviour are all around & it's accepted. Like the Toronto radio station recently had a contest to win $10K. The winner was a woman who later admitted to lying about being physically abused & raped. Or how about that British chef whose means of motivation is to scream "you're a fucking idiot" in people's faces. Or one of the many shows where parents dress up their toddlers like hookers & parade them around the stage in hopes of winning money. "Don't be bully" but hey it's OK if Mom and Dad watch bullies on TV.

As for Much Music, it should have it's license pulled (as should Much More Music). The licenses should be granted to the CBC to run 2 stations. One would be a pop music video channel. The other would be a Canadian centric "adult" video network with a strong focus on new Canadian music. Why the fuck should OUR spectrum be given away to these douchebag broadcasters? Resource based companies pay resource royalties so lets charge royalties to radio and TV. They're always bragging how much money they make.

As for politics in this country, they're all assholes. It's all about pitting one part of Canada against another. It's all about spewing total bullshit solely to satiate the hunger of their robotic (read idiot) followers. NONE of it is about building a better nation for ALL people in this country. Funny how the Federal government passed a bill that if there was a referendum 50% +1 would be required for that referendum to stand. YET, the SAME governments have a majority government with LESS than 50% of the vote. So Quebec can't go, but hey, we can railroad our own mandate through parliament & if you don't like it well fuck you.

What this country needs is proportional representation. And you know, maybe it needs a revolution. The type where 100's of thousands show up on Parliament Hill and DEMAND their politicians be held accountable. I, for one, am SICK and fucking tired of listening to people say shit like "oh, Mulcair hastened the death of Jack Layton". Or how a MP from Manitoba who champions the rights of children just happened to knock up his babysitter. Of course no one has ever come forth and said what her exact age was. Or having the NDP having one speech in Quebec while another in Alberta. Wasn't it Ghandi who said one of the seven blunders was "politics without principles".

October 7, 2012 @ 3:17 PM

4x4 Time

@Irvine - Thanks. I will check this advice out..

October 7, 2012 @ 6:03 PM

Dave Williams

@Irvine, you cannot keep blaming Obamas lame duck 4 years on President Bush. The fact is that Obama has turned out to be a weak leader period, the US has regressed in the last four years. The man is like a former snake oil salesman only he does not have the snakeoil to sell. If you think that the Americans in the last 30 years suddenly wanted cheaper prices, you are as lost as you have always been. And finally as for the weed debate, the debate was about a loser parent that could not wait to light one up with his son. The majority of decent people would not want their kids to consume alcohol or cigrettes, to hope you could smoke a joint with your kid someday is just poor parenting. That poor kid does not have a chance. My apoligies to Mississauga Phil as I had put the last debate to rest a while ago.

October 7, 2012 @ 6:28 PM


I dislike weed immensely but Dave, seriously, get a fucking grip.

And how can you support Romney and not be on weed? It doesn't make sense.

And before you get all "high" and mighty, would you like to respond to Irvine's assessment of the US situation? Or like most diehard left and right wing idiots, will you just ignore facts and say what you want.

October 7, 2012 @ 7:52 PM



You keep claiming to be a "conservative" yet all the crap that you write indicates to me you're more of a clueless, yet greedy occupier.

As for Romney I may not agree with everything the guy has to say but he is a winner. The only knock against him is that he's stinking rich. Why is that a bad thing?

Just face facts, your boy Obama was crushed in the debate. I wasn't surprised as I had no expectations for him.

October 8, 2012 @ 8:06 AM


"You do realize that "Irvine" is a persona right? I developed it solely to taunt & torture super opinionated people online." - Irvine, September 15


October 8, 2012 @ 11:00 AM

Dave Williams

@Mcnulty, the way Irvine assessed the situation in the US, is typical of anyone that chooses to rely on headlines and build there story without relying on any actual facts. The truth of the matter is that Obama, never created unployment before he was president and has seen more relevant work leave the US in the last 4 years than in the previous 20 combined. The man is a hype machine, he can read very well off a teleprompter, but he is a weak leader.
I suppose you would vote for Obama if you had the choice. It would just be another uneducated lost vote, but hey is that how Obama was voted in in the first place?
Get a grip son.

October 8, 2012 @ 1:00 PM


Well, you talk about big companies. Well, Primus has excellent customer service.and they're big. That's the thing. Anyway, Primus is the best. As for cell phone, I don't have one. Who needs one. I have voice mail so people can just leave me voice mail. That works wonders. Anyway, Primus does sell cellphones, but I w=on't want one. Oh, my trainer curls next weekend. Hope he wins. It's in Strowd.

October 8, 2012 @ 6:05 PM


Well argued, Dave. Thank you for supporting your claims with facts.

It's people like you are Argue that create the shit situation we are in today.

I don't care much for Obama but I can see through Romney and his bullshit. Obama is the best worst choice. Romney's plans won't work and Obama's may work just a little more.

The US lacks a good quality candidate because the worthwhile ones don't want to bow to the Tea Party or the left wing.

McCain learned this all too well when he sold out.

And before you get all bent out if shape, I'd vote Obama over Romney, and Harper over Obama.

But that won't happen.

October 8, 2012 @ 8:14 PM


Oh and why did Obama won in the first place?

1) Bush soured the GOP and people wanted something different.
2) Palin was a bad choice for VP. Quite possibly the worst choice.
3) People believed Obama would change things. He didn't. But they thought he could.
4) McCain wasn't the same guy who ran in 2000. That man would have won and rightfully so. If his pick wasn't Palin.

October 8, 2012 @ 8:18 PM


I liked Jon McCain...but he accepted Palin as a running mate. His decision making ability was questioned and his fate was sealed

October 9, 2012 @ 8:12 AM

Misissauga Phil

@ Dave W. - No apoligies necissary, I've made my peace with your ignorance.

However, my boy has been identified as gifted and put into whats called the "challange program" at his school...because he's five and reads at a grade 3 (8 year old) level....not bad for a kid that "doesn't stand a chance"

But you keep on spewing your really doesn't affect me, I love my son, he loves me and has already made me prouder than I ever thought was possible....

October 9, 2012 @ 8:28 AM

Dave Williams

@Mississauga Phil, being a parent that wants to eventually smoke drugs with his children does affect you. I pray for your boy and honestly hope that he could detour around the poor example that you are setting. There are some diamonds that come from the rough.

October 9, 2012 @ 10:34 AM

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