Lock-Out Apathy Open Mike

Open MikeApparently the NHL did something, and then the NHLPA did something, and now nothing is happening. Whatever... ping me when it's over, this is your apathy Open Mike.

Have something to get off your chest? Perhaps an interesting opinion, an agenda to push forward or a question for the hive mind? This is the place.


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MLSE dropped ticket prices for one of their under performing sports teams - the TFC...so, is there a trend here? If Bell / Rogers can acknowledge that the customer deserves a break for one of their subsidiaries not giving value for their money, then what is stopping them for doing that with other areas of their business that is doing that.?? That is rhetorical. They would be bankrupt in a week !! Baseball, hockey, mobile, internet, customer service – not sure what they really do well, and provide value for our $$.

October 19, 2012 @ 9:34 AM


I'm too busy watching Sons of Anarchy to care about the NHL...we've finished two and a half seasons since the lockout started....next up, new seasons of Dexter and Boardwalk.

Watching my son play hockey and my daughter play ringette are feeding my sports fix for now!

October 19, 2012 @ 9:52 AM

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I hear ya... Right now I'm enjoying baseball playoffs and on Saturday I'll be watching my favourite hockey player of all-time... my son.

Go James Go!

October 19, 2012 @ 9:55 AM


Why are kids now called James and not Jim anymore? Anyone under 20 is a James not a Jim. Same with William and Bill.

October 19, 2012 @ 10:17 AM

Mississauga Phil

I too have been enjoying Sons of Anarchy nad Dexter, as well as the walking dead. If thjis keeps up too much longer, I might be taking Mike's advice and check out The Wire.

For my sports fix, I've been watching, and participateing, in lots of road hockey with my boy and his friends on the street.

I'll second that Go James Go

(I figure Mike's boy has a better chance of winning something than the Leafs, lock out or not)

October 19, 2012 @ 10:20 AM

Mississauga Phil

Oh, and I have to agree with Argie on the whole nickname thing...one of my boy's friends is named Christopher, and he looked at me like I had 3 eyes when I called him Chris last week....what up with that???

October 19, 2012 @ 10:22 AM

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I frequently call him Jimbo or Jimmy James, but he prefers James.

If I were him, I'd want to be a Jimmy, no doubt about it.

Of course, on a related note, I was Michael at his age and then became Mike, so sometimes it works backwards.

October 19, 2012 @ 10:23 AM


I hope the NHL shuts down all year. I just don't care anymore and they will never see any of my money anymore.

October 19, 2012 @ 10:36 AM


Further to my brother Gary's note, I will not buy anything from any company that sponsors hockey...if they ever come back. I want to see how they split 50/50 of nothing.

October 19, 2012 @ 10:37 AM

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Good luck with that one... so many companies sponsor hockey. No more using MasterCard, no more drinking or eating anything owned by Coke, no more Tim's, no more... you get the idea.

I can't get over how different I feel today vs. 8 years ago. I can't believe they're screwing us like this again.

I say shut it down for two years. Go ahead. Blow it up, lose the weakerthan franchises, add a couple in Canada and don't even think about doing this again.

October 19, 2012 @ 10:40 AM


Mike...I guess the real message is...so many people just don't care. I already stopped patronizing a lot of the sponsors.

October 19, 2012 @ 11:16 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

I must admit, I love following my Leafs. I've been doing that since I was a wee lad and it brings me great joy... even though my team is horrible and hasn't given me a playoff game since 2004.

Having said that, this lock out has me feeling so apathetic. I won't sign any petitions, I won't join any rallies, and I won't beg them to get a deal done. They can sit out for five years if they like... I'll find other things to do.

But, when they come back, I'll watch again. I'll do this because it's great fun for me and life is short. I like fun.

I'm betting most Canadians will come back, but good luck getting the Florida / Nashville / Phoenix fans back.

Stupid NHL... always shooting themselves in the foot. Like I said, whatever...

October 19, 2012 @ 11:23 AM

Mississauga Phil

@ Mike - There are fans in Florida/Nashville/Phoenix???

October 19, 2012 @ 11:48 AM

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@Mississauga Phil

Haha... maybe they're all ex-pats.

October 19, 2012 @ 11:49 AM

Not Dean

media fan on SOWNY, logged in as mediafan, is Fred Patterson, 50% of the dead weight on the Crumble N' Debt podcast.

Loving you...

October 19, 2012 @ 1:00 PM

Mississauga Phil

@ Mike - I remember the owner of the LA Kings saying he bought them because he was told that there were 3 million ex-pat Canadians in the Greatter LA area, but he lamented "who knew none of them liked hockey?"

@ Not Dean - What did that have to do with anything anyone was talking about?? Seriously man...did you offer an HJ to Freddie and get shot down or something? Why all the hate?

October 19, 2012 @ 1:13 PM


I little less need for a Bell Media Revenue Analyst today. (The Bell purchase of Astral Media was rejected yesterday.) And that's good.

October 19, 2012 @ 1:17 PM

Not Dean


October 19, 2012 @ 1:17 PM

Lyle Lanley


Has the CRTC finally grown a pair?

October 19, 2012 @ 1:36 PM


This will never happen but the league needs to decrease the number of teams. They also need to get rid revenue sharing, the salary cap and salary floor.

Crosby and Ovie being the stars of the league would earn about 12-15 mil in their next contract and 4th line grunts & goons would make about $200 grand. It would be similar to the Euro soccer leagues. It works fine in those leagues.

October 19, 2012 @ 1:37 PM


From what I see, Canadians worship hockey. Americans prefer Nascar, Football and just about everything else.

Put more teams in Canada. It just makes sense.

October 19, 2012 @ 1:59 PM


This isn't to join the "Not Dean" asshole in bashing H&F, because I actually love the podcast, and start every work day commute with it, but I need to vent. Are there any other regular listeners that have noticed that intern Phil, who otherwise seems like the most likeable fellow on the planet, is the absolute worst fake laugh-er alive? I wrote the guys about this a while ago - I'm convinced there's been a deliberate decision to make the studio seem more vibrant and energetic by encouraging the interns to laugh uproariously at even the slightest amusing comment, and Phil has taken on that request with gusto. Unfortunately he's terrible at it. I'm honestly near the point of abandoning the podcast because I find the laughter so obnoxious, aggravating, and completely unnecessary. I can't help but key in on it now and it's become a huge distraction, and something that definitely wasn't a part of the earlier shows that got me hooked in the first place. Or am I just crazy?

October 19, 2012 @ 2:00 PM



OMG, I stopped listening for the same reason. Phil sounds like a sweet guy and I hope he never reads this (I've never seen him comment) but he laughs so fake at everything including the non-funny stuff.

And there's lots of non-funny stuff! :)

J/K - but I did stop listening. Phil got on my last nerve and I had to bail.

October 19, 2012 @ 2:11 PM

Alan G

Couldn't care less about the players and owners. I do feel bad for all the people who earn a living working in or around the various arenas. A lot of them have no jobs to go to or other establishments like bars and restaurants are seeing their revenues decrease because there is no hockey. Greed hurts the innocent.

October 19, 2012 @ 2:35 PM

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@Corey and @Stef

I was there on Phil's first day, and although I don't go on the podcast much any more, I've been on a couple of times the past few months.

I think Phil's laugh is real. I think he just does that. I don't think he's been ordered to laugh big like that all the time.

October 19, 2012 @ 2:50 PM

Sam In Scarb

@Alan G...so very well said..15 years ago I would go out of my way to watch or go to a Leaf hockey game.. (Former season ticket owner)Now after 2 lockouts..ect I would never ever again go to a Leaf game again (even if free, still costs $100.00 parking,food,libations )..and on TV well there is alot of great sports on the tube..
And to all you nay-sayers IF IT IS ONLY A 100.00 BUCKS you must be very rich..give the Hun to me or the Food Bank!!!!!!!!!!!!!

October 19, 2012 @ 3:04 PM



I wouldn't use the term "ordered" but I know it's a time-honored strategy in broadcasting (radio and TV) to amp up the volume and frequency of laughter. Like laugh tracks for sitcoms the thinking is if the audience hears laughter, they're more likely to join in. The example I use is the Derringer morning show on Q107. I listened to that long enough to hear all of Derringer's puns and observations multiple times over the years, to the point where I could predict exactly what remark he was going to make after certain songs. Am I really supposed to believe that Ryan Parker still finds those same old comments so hysterical he can't help but to laugh out loud every time he hears them? I enjoy the H&F banter - it's like hanging out with two good friends, and as with my real friends, sometimes the comments are hilarious, sometimes they just evoke a smile, but it's always enjoyable. They don't need to have laugh riot in the background, which is what I'm hearing these days (the KROCK news bits are especially over-the-top) and I honestly don't remember the laughter being this obvious at the beginning - why is it only recently bothering me?

October 19, 2012 @ 3:20 PM

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No doubt, Phil likely thinks he should do that big laugh after everything the guys say, I just don't think H+F necessarily want it. They certainly don't encourage it, but Phil's a different cat and at some point he'll wake up at 4am and realize he needs to start doing something that pays money and he'll be gone.

The laugh became more pronounced when the metamorphosis was complete and Phil had fully exited the shell. It's not just you who notices this...

October 19, 2012 @ 3:25 PM


I'm posting as anonymous b/c I feel bad about this, but it needs to be said.

Firstly, Phil sounds like a very nice person. This is nothing personal just a listening preference.

The fake constant laughter is annoying. It's my least favourite part of the podcast.

But still a 100%er.

October 19, 2012 @ 3:35 PM

519 Rob

Here is my 2cents on the NHL lockout.
Bettmans job (which I think he is doing quite well) is to look out for the OWNERS best interest.
The Fehr brothers have a similar job - look out for the players, and get them every last penny they can.
The problem is, there is NO ONE whose job it is to look out for THE GAME.
For what it's worth, I vote Gretzky as NHL President (or some similar title). His job would be to make the decisions that best reflect what the game actually needs.

October 19, 2012 @ 3:52 PM

Blind Dave

519 Rob said it best (above). To suggest that any of the owners or players care about the game and the fans is nonsense. They only "care" about it or us if it affects their paycheques. Meanwhile, there is a pile of money to be had and everyone wants the bigger slice.

Hey, I like hockey, but I sure as heck don't need it. My heart is with the poor schmucks who depend on the game to eek out a living. But that's just collateral damage, so who cares, right? Certainly not the players and owners.

October 19, 2012 @ 4:02 PM

Slim Witman

Blind Dave very trew..feel very very sorry for the normal Joe's , jobs in parking ,concessions,restaurants ect BUT what just kills me is TML head GM has been werry,werry quiet..BUT when all is over...he will want the world to listen to him like he is the KING..YET NO-ONE in the Toronto media DARES TO CHALLENGE HIM what a bunch of wussies

October 19, 2012 @ 5:01 PM


Neighbor works for "MLSE" now Rogers/Bell in promotion & sponsorship dept. for Leafs, Raptors, TFC. In early Aug. he knew his work hrs. will diminish sometime in Sept. with possible NHL lockout looming.

He only works 1-2 days a week now. During the NHL season he gets sponsors, etc. to promote for each game. TFC is done & NHL probably done for this season also.

I just pity those who are employed by ACC like the ushers, concession stand people, ticket takers, parking people who are affected by these GREEDY BASTARDS - both owners & players.

WHO pays their bills in the long run, it's us fans & if we don't support them they both lose. Revenue lost for both.

See ya in WHENEVER.

October 19, 2012 @ 5:46 PM


@ Corey @ Stef @ Anonymous

I emailed H&F about this very same thing back mid August. I commented he was laughing uproariously in the background, funny or not, and sounded like a one man laugh-track.
The thing that drew my attention to the issue - he was laughing in the middle of bits, ahead of punchlines (at that time). I didn't think he wasn't being genuine, but I did think it came off as sounding 'fake'.

Since then, I haven't let it bug me much. Obviously Phil has become very popular with the crew and the listeners. He's a big part of the show.
And I remind myself- he's an intern, just out of school. He's getting his experience on the go, for everyone to hear. I think he's made quite a splash in a short time. He's a big enough personality to have both fans and haters. Go Phil!

October 19, 2012 @ 5:48 PM


Well, I want my hockey. This lockout is so stupid. Bring them back already, but they're not. They just canceled games to the beginning of November.

October 19, 2012 @ 6:05 PM

Grocery Gateway

Dear Cheryl,

None of your items are in stock next week. Sorry for the inconvenience.

October 19, 2012 @ 6:46 PM

New Orleans Is Sinking

Thanks to all your hype Mike...just bought my first Hip concert tickets. If the show is half as good as Rush last Sunday......it'll be one of the most non-productive work days for THIS guy on the 15th.

Go Cheryl!!!!!

October 19, 2012 @ 6:58 PM

Blind Dave

For animal/nature lovers. This is a pic from reddit. The caption reads, "The amount of tension in this photo is unsettling".

Hmm, I wonder what happened next...


October 19, 2012 @ 7:40 PM

Not Grocery Gateway

That was funny. lol

October 19, 2012 @ 8:16 PM


Satisfying my inner geek, watching Fanboy with my boys. Who should I see?
Romeo Parada from SOA!

BTW, I for one am looking forward to cheaper seats for TFC games in 2013.

October 19, 2012 @ 8:24 PM


Is reading the Globe and Mail online worth $20? Is there more to this.

October 19, 2012 @ 8:59 PM

Rick C in Oakville

@Patrick, I still need the physical paper in hand , can't stand reading newspapers on line ...Yet. They will force me some day.
As for Phil: We all have to realise to break into the media biz you need to stand out and he is just doing that, every day is like an audition to an intern. Sometimes the laugh can be aggravating, but he does contribute a hell of a lot to the show for free, and the knowledge he has stuck inside his cranium amazes me some days. Keep at er Phil and looking to meet you at the Nut Hut Shit show anniversary!!

October 19, 2012 @ 10:01 PM


I agree with everyone and the Phil laughter.. but he does sound like a really nice kid but he's just young.. it'll work itself out.

My son was hitting his own hockey when the last strike was on and after the year I was way more interested in minor hockey than I was in the NHL. It's something I've never recovered from, so this time.. I really couldn't care less. In fact, I would have been surprised if the 50/50 deal had gone through..

I love October baseball.. I had a discussion with someone today about the size of major league baseball and how expansion really weakened the league.

October 19, 2012 @ 10:20 PM


Patrick. No it's not worth 20 bucks.

PS, why no discussion of bullying?

October 19, 2012 @ 11:22 PM


@Not Dean

So tell us more man. How do you know this?

October 19, 2012 @ 11:28 PM


You say Phil is still not getting any money for what he is doing. How much do H & F get paid at this point and how much do they have to make in order to pay a staff member.

October 20, 2012 @ 6:02 AM


Well, I want my hockey back, but guess it won't come back any time soon. I hate baseball no matter when it is, June, July, August, September, October. It's just a boring game. Well, basketball starts really soon. Can't wait. go Suns.

October 20, 2012 @ 8:14 AM

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Phil is not paid... but neither is Kelly or Jason.

Humble and Fred are getting paid. There are paying sponsors.... Five Hour Energy, Steve Martel, etc. They pay with real money.

I have no idea how much they'd have to make in order to pay for staff... you'd have to ask them.

October 20, 2012 @ 9:21 AM

4x4 Time

NHL - Greed vs. Greed never ends well. In any negotiation, the one with the most leverage wins, and I think the owners have the trump card.

Blue Jays - Anyone else bored with the Farrel rumours? I mean the guy is average at best. If negotiations fall through with the Red Sox, I would fire him anyway. Sounds like he does not to be here.

LCBO - I get the LCBO raises tons of cash for the Provincial coffers and we sure need it. But like everyone else, I am amazed at liquor prices in the US. Last week in Florida, I bought some Rocca Della Macie wine my wife enjoys for $5.99 a bottle. Here it is $14.05. A 26er of Saphire Gin for $9.99. Anyone know how Alberta prices compare to Ontario?

Rolling Stones - What do you think of their new tune?

October 20, 2012 @ 9:39 AM


I was not paid to be on the podcast either.

October 20, 2012 @ 10:59 AM

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Contest updates:

The Halloween Haunt winner will be announced shortly, but I'm working on getting more tickets so there can be multiple winners. If I get my way, everyone who entered will win.

There's a new contest for free Steam Whistle price packs... pretty cool... enter now at http://www.torontomike.com/2012/10/free_steam_whistle_unsigned_pr.html .

October 20, 2012 @ 10:59 AM

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You had to pay me to be on Toronto Mike'd.

October 20, 2012 @ 11:00 AM


@Toronto Mike

Do you get paid to do your podcast?

October 20, 2012 @ 11:02 AM

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I'm not currently making a penny from my podcasts. I've done the first 8 episodes because they're fun and I wanted to give it a shot. I'm glad I did.

It's like a crash course in broadcasting. I've learned so much in 8 episodes.

October 20, 2012 @ 11:05 AM


@4x4 Time
I used to work in the beverage alcohol industry. First off, spirit or wine prices in Alberta can be lower, but are generally a bit higher than in Ontario. Part of that is a reflection of a smaller size market in Alberta and inefficiencies of having some very small retail stores. Surprisingly, the LCBO is the world's largest single beverage alcohol retailer, and they use that to leverage better pricing out of suppliers. Not that you would know that at the retail level. Go into some "control" states (government liquor stores) and you would be surprised to see prices that can be a bit lower and sometimes even higher than here in Ontario.

It's all about "sin" taxation and markup to generate revenue for government. It should come as no surprise that on some products, the distiller's bottle cost is higher than the product that is inside. I was product manager for some very popular Canadian whiskies. My company sold one bottle size to the LCBO for $1.85. That bottle was $18.95 by the time it reached the store. The markup is what leads the LCBO to campaign to the public about the $Billions colossal "dividend" it "pays back" to the Ontario government. That is one of the biggest loads of shite you will ever hear. Without the LCBO's huge markups, the "dividend" would only be in the millions.

I would have no problem with the Alberta beverage alcohol distribution system being applied in Ontario (government maintained wholesale ordering, warehousing and distribution to retailers, but unlike in Ontario, they'll order pretty much anything for a retailer), but like in Alberta, it would have to be set up and at least initially executed by a Conservative government that does not have as part of their agenda gouging and screwing the taxpayer for billions of dollars for unaccountable rampant spending. We won't name any names in Ontario, now, will we.

If you live in or near a wine district, you may want to take a little tour of them. There are some in Niagara that do not sell any or all of their product to the LCBO. I'm talking about good stuff, by the way. A product that is not sold to the LCBO means the full retail LCBO markup is not applied (there are some fees and taxes that have to be paid simply for the production of the products). That does not mean "cheap" wine. It means that when you pay $8, $10, $15 (or more, if you're so inclined) at that winery, you are getting an excellent wine that would be easily be double that or more in the LCBO. There are two wineries that regularly get my business when I am down that way. If I can help it, I won't buy Ontario wines from the LCBO. I'd rather support small, family run wineries that make a really good product, with proportionately more of my hard-earned, after-tax earnings going to that family/winery and less to the Ontario government.

October 20, 2012 @ 11:15 AM

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@4x4 Time

I'm sick of the Farrell talk. Let him go. If we get something for him, bonus!

In Paris bottles of wine were about 2.5 euros in supermarkets.

I haven't loved much Stones post-Hot Rocks. That isolated vocals track of Gimme Shelter is gold.

October 20, 2012 @ 11:19 AM

4x4 Time

@Douglas - Thanks, interesting reading!

October 20, 2012 @ 11:29 AM


Last month I was at a public washroom (Square One's bus terminal). All of sudden, I hear this very booming and surrounding voice: "Yeah! Between a rock! And a hard place. You better stop! Stop! Put on a clown(?) face." It was Mick.
I washed hands and got outta there. Waiting back upstairs at the platform, the next boomingly loud song went, "YOU MY... brown-eyed girl", by Van Morrison.

October 20, 2012 @ 11:44 AM


@Douglas @4x4 Time

You're somewhat correct Douglas on prices but not always. Here's why:

Liquor retailing in Alberta is private. Because of this you have a different types of retailers. I'll use my last residence in Calgary (near downtown) as an example

I had 5 liquor stores within a short walk to my condo. One was CO OP, a billion dollar Calgary grocer. CO OP liquor stores are pretty nice. Said store even had a wine sommelier on staff. I was able to buy beer from Brick Brewing in Waterloo for a price CHEAPER than I bought it at the Brewery (I lived in Waterloo and lived just up the street from the Brewery).

Another liquor store is a chain store. They have dozens of stores. Their prices are indeed quite expensive. The store is big, has a good selection and is open till 2 AM 7 days a week. You pay for that convenience.

The other 3 stores are hole in the wall stores. One is expensive. The other two, which have no parking lot, have a decent selection. Esthetically, they aren't much to look at. But they have great prices. One store in particular sold Bowen Island beer for a lower price than I've ever seen it in BC. I've seen tall boy cans there for 1.85 for Heineken.

There is also places like The Superstore Liquor Store. These are warehouse liquor stores where volume gets you a deal. To save costs the beer is not chilled.

Having lived in both Ontario and Alberta, I'd take the Alberta system any day. Yes, you need to explore all your liquor stores to get an idea of price and selection. But once you understand that you know where to go. You also have convenience of stores being open at almost all hours of the day.

BC's system is a hybrid. A mix of both. Prices are about the same as Ontario. Liquor stores in remote places that are open late (deep in the mountains for instance) may have a markup, but that's what you pay if you want a beer at 1 AM in Revelstoke.

October 20, 2012 @ 2:04 PM


Finally and most importantly, the real Satan of alcohol in Ontario is the Beer Store.

I do not often drink anymore, but when I do I always drink microbrewery beer. I am a microbrewery beer snob. The Beer Store is the single largest impediment to microbreweries in Ontario. Each package size requires a huge payment to the Beer Store. This is prohibitive for microbreweries.

The number of microbreweries in BC vastly outnumbers that in Ontario. The population of BC isn't 1/3 of Ontario. It's commonplace to find microbreweries in small remote mountain towns.

A good example is the Begbie Brewery. This is a small brewery located in Revelstoke BC. Revelstoke is about 4000 people. It's a town that's 450 kms from Calgary and in the heart of the Selkirk Mountain Range. It's so isolate it has 2 radio stations (CBC and some Astral outlet that's not even live). On one side of the town, there is no cellular service from any carrier for 50 kms. On the other, there is no Rogers service for 90 kms, but there is Telus Service (through Rogers Pass). When I say isolated, I mean "Wawa" isolation, not Parry Sound. It has a brewery. And so do dozens of other small remote towns like Revelstoke.

BTW, if you're ever driving in BC, stop in Revelstoke for the night. It's an awesome cultured little town. You have to get off the highway to experience it. I've spent many days there when the highways were closed to avalanches.

OH, and it also holds the record for snow. 24 meters in 1974. The ski hill has 10-15 meters by end of season. I have photos of the town where the snowbanks are actually as high as houses. They dig out the stop signs so you can see them.

It's the "truth north strong and free" in all it's glory man.

October 20, 2012 @ 2:17 PM


I agree with Stephanie.

Before I had kids, I kept up with the NHL - and cared. Now that I have three sons in hockey, I put most of my energy in watching their games. It's so great to watch, especially the young ones. Shameless son promotion. My son's first hockey game, 22 second clip:


October 20, 2012 @ 3:21 PM


Don't feed the troll.

October 20, 2012 @ 7:05 PM



Not even if he's hungry?

October 20, 2012 @ 7:09 PM


Well, I don't have kids and I want my hockey. I don't have any sons who play hockey. Just get over it already so my Habs can start playing.

October 20, 2012 @ 9:14 PM



There is still hockey being played. The Marlies & Bulldogs (Toronto & Montreal) AHL teams are on Sportsnet now.

TOO bad Toronto & is winning 5-0.

Game 6 of NLCS is tomorrow - can't wait.

October 20, 2012 @ 9:17 PM

Blind Dave

@Douglas @Irvine

Did you read about the 55 year old bottle of scotch that auctioned for $52,000?

Proceeds go to an organization called Wounded Warriors, which hopefully improves the lives of wounded vets and their families.

October 20, 2012 @ 10:37 PM

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There will be four winners in the Halloween Haunt give-away, each getting a pair of tickets.

I just want to have the tickets before I announce the winners. But stay tuned!

October 20, 2012 @ 11:05 PM


Well, that's no good that Montreal lost. Oh well, hopefully my Arizona Cardinals win today. That will be good. Sure wish we could have a baseball lockout instead.

October 21, 2012 @ 8:00 AM


@Blind Dave - yes, I heard about that on the news. Even for a good cause, that's nuts. Good thing the LCBO was not involved in the pricing.

@Cheryl - I think Major League Baseball actually learned something from their strike/lockout in the 90s.

October 21, 2012 @ 8:48 AM


Farrell is gone. I think he left about 6 months ago, but now it's official. See ya!

October 21, 2012 @ 9:50 AM


@ Grocery Gateway Friggin' hilarious! LOVED it.

October 21, 2012 @ 12:44 PM

Blind Dave

The Farrell thing was pretty much a given. It had taken on a life of its own and regardless of what you think of him, it was best for both him and the club to part ways.

I don't like using injuries as a cop-out, but this season was over the top for trips to the infirmary. If the Jays had had an average injury rate, it would have been interesting to see if Farrell could have got them to gel. I doubt it, but it would have been more of an indication of the potential and ability of the team as a whole.

October 21, 2012 @ 1:03 PM


My Cardinals lost today. That sucked. It really did. I don't know why they can't win anymore. Well, so does this mean no more baseball lockouts? Come on. Don't keep locking out hockey.

October 21, 2012 @ 6:12 PM

Woodbridge East Phil


Two things:

- I do read Toronto Mike very often. Avid reader dating back pre-podcast (yes Mike, I'll more of a fan than you think).

- I wouldn't listen to myself either. But like an Asian grasshopper I will incorporate everyone's feedback. You're my loves in life after all!

October 22, 2012 @ 6:46 AM

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@Woodbridge East Phil

You'd be a welcome guest on Toronto Mike'd any time.

When did you start reading Toronto Mike?

October 22, 2012 @ 9:00 AM

Woodbridge East Phil

@Toronto Mike

I believe Howard was dismissed from the Mix. I dipped in and out as a high schooler.

I'd love to know your schedule with Toronto Mike'd so I could make Rosie's day a little less interesting. :)

October 22, 2012 @ 9:27 AM

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@Woodbridge East Phil

How about October 30 at 5pm at Redfish?

October 22, 2012 @ 9:29 AM

Woodbridge East Phil

@Toronto Mike

Hmm... you guys record at my bedtime (seriously - K-Rock's worth the mixing up circadian rhythms)...

I'm sure I can pop in at least once before the end of the year, so stay tuned! :)

October 22, 2012 @ 9:52 AM

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@Woodbridge East Phil

What time is your bedtime exactly?

October 22, 2012 @ 10:26 AM

Woodbridge East Phil

@Toronto Mike

Well Mike, I go to bed at 5 pm, then I wake up in a cold shiver at 1:30 in the morning thinking I still have to walk 7 kilometres to the nearest bus stop...

On a serious note, we'll have to discuss this through e-mail... but I'd love to see you guys in action!

October 22, 2012 @ 12:19 PM

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@Woodbridge East Phil

What happened to the Mazda 2?

5pm is a crazy bedtime IMHO, even for an associate producer of a morning show.

You're the hardest working unpaid professional I've ever met. You're gonna go far, kid.

October 22, 2012 @ 12:22 PM

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