A Male God Sending Sperm Down to Impregnate Mary

religionSt. Matthew-in-the-city is a progressive Anglican church in Auckland, New Zealand. They recently created some controversy by erecting the following billboard.

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The Vicar of St Matthew-in-the-City, Glynn Cardy, said the billboard was "attacked by a knife-wielding Christian fanatic". That was actually the fourth attack on the billboard in two days.

Archdeacon Cardy earlier said the billboard was designed to let people outside the church realise that many Christians and church leaders did not believe in the literal virgin birth, and did not believe that was the true meaning of Christmas.

"We're out to critique the idea of a male god impregnating Mary and the literalism of the virgin birth.

"The topic is ... something the church has talked about for centuries, but what is new is that we have the audacity to laugh at something quite so ridiculous as a male god sending sperm down to impregnate Mary," he said.

At the risk of becoming rather unpopular during this Christmas season, I've got to ask. Does anyone actually believe that Mary miraculously conceived Jesus while remaining a virgin?


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Roshan

With full intention of insulting religious fundamentalists - does anyone actually believe that Jesus (if the dude actually existed) was the son of any god?

December 19, 2009 @ 10:07 PM

Argie

Jesus IS God. Confirmation will come when you die.

Merry Christmas!

December 19, 2009 @ 10:16 PM

Buffaloboymike

What came first Religion or Man?
Seriously what is wrong with treating religion like it probably should be a philosophy, Greeks got it right, their Gods are mythical beings each made up to tell a story and teach a moral/value where as Christians in the US and Canada look at the bible as the Truth....If thats the case then Santa must really have 8 reindeer who can fly and hes got a list of all the good little catholic boys and girls.

December 20, 2009 @ 12:35 AM

Dave

Can we all agree that it's in bad taste?

And really, how many times do you change a person's opinion by mocking them?

December 20, 2009 @ 5:21 AM

LEW

Tom Waits story of the virgin birth from Big Time is far more believable to me, and leaves us with a lot less baggage.

December 20, 2009 @ 5:53 AM

Buffaloboymike

Dave, how is it in bad taste when its coming from the Church itself, even the church is admitting that the virgin birth is a hoax. If it was someone from outside the church who wasn't affiliated, yeah its in bad taste, but I actually think its about time that the Church admits that some of the hocus pocus walk on water/supernatural stuff wasn't as it says. People take this stuff way too seriously and literally, this add basically says that its okay not to and to read between the lines, Mary was a virgin before Joseph poked her.

December 20, 2009 @ 7:54 AM

Buffaloboymike

Is it me or does Mary have Blue and White hair?

December 20, 2009 @ 7:55 AM

Dave

Buffaloboymike,

This billboard was made by a single church within one diocese that's within one denomination. They aren't speaking on behalf of anyone but themselves, with most of their diocese and denomination (the Church of England) disagreeing with them (adamently, I'm sure), let alone the rest of Christians in the world.

I found it eye rolling at best. All it does is rile up people who hold this belief.

December 20, 2009 @ 8:48 AM

Mike from Lowville

Bah Humbug!

December 20, 2009 @ 9:16 AM

Buffaloboymike

Actually, my wifes pastor laughed when we showed her, My wife is Lutheran, even her pastor said its wrong to take the Bible literally...Seriously a virgin birth literslly? Do you believe in Santa or the Easter Bunny? What about Superman?

December 20, 2009 @ 10:00 AM

Army

You know what you find out when you die? NOTHING! Tony Soprano. had it right when he said, "Everything goes black."

December 20, 2009 @ 10:09 AM

brad

god is dead

everything goes black

accept it and enjoy life

December 20, 2009 @ 12:01 PM

Anonymous

brad writes:"god is dead

everything goes black

accept it and enjoy life"

Funny you should write that. Stats always show people who believe in God and who live a religious life do have longer, happier, more fulfilled lives.

Stats on depression, suicide, drug/alcohol abuse, divorce, etc are much higher in the God hating, secular world.

Ironic, isn't it?

December 20, 2009 @ 2:19 PM


Argie

**Oops, that was me in the previous post.**

Actually its kind of funny and typical of a Christian church to criticize its own. Why do they do it? Because they can.

Can you imagine if a branch of Judaism or Islam were to publicly state something like that about its own faith??? The Jewish branch would be buried under by lawsuits, boycotts & letters to editors while the Islam would be buried, simply by a huge bomb.

December 20, 2009 @ 2:25 PM

Argie

mike,

Its all facts I wrote - no ignorance.

December 20, 2009 @ 2:26 PM

Ajax Mike

Argie, can you provide a link for the study or studies you refer to? I'd honestly be curious to see those, and to see if they include other socio-economic factors.

December 20, 2009 @ 5:54 PM

Buffaloboymike

Moral of the story is kids, dont take your religion too seriously or literally

December 20, 2009 @ 6:30 PM

Buffaloboymike

Dave,
Two lines suggest to me that it is more than just one church with this belief:
"many Christians and church leaders did not believe in the literal virgin birth, and did not believe that was the true meaning of Christmas."
and
"The topic is ... something the church has talked about for centuries"
"

December 20, 2009 @ 6:32 PM

Dave

I hope someone else is catching the irony of a person mocking people who blindly take the Bible as truth and then quotes this priest in Australia and their wife's pastor as fact.

I'm not saying they are the only church ever to hold this opinion, I'm saying they are in the great, great minority. Mostly what I'm saying, though, is they aren't laughing at themselves, they are laughing at other people.

Which isn't a big enough deal to deserve 3 different comments from me, however.

December 20, 2009 @ 8:18 PM

dan

i'm sorry but if it wasn't a virgin birth and He isn't the son of God were all in deep trouble. It's the only way back to what adam lost in the garden. God has to redeem us by his own blood. Sorry God just creates a blood cell in Mary and she's just an incubator who says "Be it unto me acording to thy Word" (Prophesied hundreds of years before.

June 9, 2010 @ 1:06 AM

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