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Cheryl

I'm first again. I love being first. How about those Indians. That was so awesome. They are the best. Corey Kluber is so awesome. Homers by Edwin Encarnacion, two by Eric Gonzalez, and another by Franky Lindor. This is really awesome. My Orioles didn't do so well though. It was pathetic. Well, my Orioles and Indians play each other this weekend. My Indians will win. My Diamondbacks didn't play last night. Well, we have football. My Ravens, Browns, and Cardinals are going to win because they're the best. Curling as well. Kean will win the Oakville Fall Classic.

September 8, 2017 @ 8:47 AM

The Voice of Reason

It appears that Doug Ford may run for Mayor again. The taxes on my condo are insane. Not expecting a reduction, but hopefully Ford can bring responsible spending back to the city.

September 8, 2017 @ 9:08 AM

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@The Voice of Reason

The only thing that can make me cast a vote for John Tory is a Ford.

September 8, 2017 @ 9:11 AM

bsmntdwllr73

Big rock and roll weekend coming up, what with the annual Taste of the
Kingsway Festival about to kick off. Can't beat all that free cover band action,
featuring tributes to CCR, The Eagles, Foreigner, U2, and the almighty AC/DC.
Now I know that there is nothing like the real thing, but when you're on a very
tight budget and wrestling with extreme tedium, you take your (cheap) thrills
where you can find them!

September 8, 2017 @ 9:30 AM

Rick C in Oakville

Heard on Newstalk 1010 that the feds won't let the cannabis be sold with other products, basically cutting out pharmacies, and the LCBO.
Going to create another level of mismanaged bureaucracy(think CCBO, a CEO, VP's, etc). They also said they won't be selling consummables this way, even though there is a whole section of society that would prefer to take it this way. I am not a user but might try edibles for my insomnia and sciatica.
Just shake your head at how levels of government can really put in a whole bunch of road blocks, this is probably no where near becoming a reality.

September 8, 2017 @ 9:33 AM

Hamish Grant

Marijuana sold for medicinal purposes will be sold through pharmacies. The LCBO-run storefronts are for the recreational product.

Consumables aren't on the table because as of yet there isn't a reliable way to measure the amount of THC in the product.

The key with legalized marijuana is that everything involved in its production has to be legal as well, following established guidelines. You will for instance know the relative strength of the product you're buying, and it will be possible to determine where it came from, and how it was produced. You don't have those guarantees with illegal product.

Online sales are a big plus to this plan as well.

September 8, 2017 @ 9:56 AM

bsmntdwllr73

Just sayin', but why doesn't the federal government legalize cocaine, crack, and
heroin while they are at it, too?!? Imagine all the great things that could be done
with the all that new-found tax money!! I'm no medical expert so I can't speak to
the medicinal properties of the wacky tobacky, but based on all those fly-by night
dispensaries that have sprung-up whack-a-mole style downtown, there is clearly
a strong consumer demand for this product. But who says that the consumer is
right in this regard? The hardest thing in life is to go through it completely sober,
even when everything around you is turning to absolute crap. People need to grow
up and act their age! And please, don't preach to me about Free Will (that's a Rush
Song) and what the market will bear, those are just rationalized excuses for acting
like an idiot!!!

September 8, 2017 @ 10:07 AM

Hamish Grant

What the illegal dispensaries demonstrate is that there is a demand among biker gangs for easy money. There have to be cost savings involved in operating with a veneer of legitimacy in an actual storefront, compared to the usual 'in the shadows' method.

As far as the harder drugs are concerned, let's see how things go with marijuana before we look at substances that are significantly more difficult to manage.

September 8, 2017 @ 10:26 AM

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@bsmntdwllr73

Tomorrow night I'm at Lowest of the Low at the Danforth Music Hall and on Sunday my wife is off to see Lauren Hill and Nas.

September 8, 2017 @ 10:32 AM

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Weed's a very soft drug... I personally think it's a better choice than an abundance of alcohol. Let's not lump mary jane in with highly addictive drugs like heroin or meth. Nobody is even seriously talking about legalizing heroin or meth.

September 8, 2017 @ 10:34 AM

bsmntdwllr73

I guess I failed at my feeble attempt at humour in the Jonathan Swift
(" A Modest Proposal") mode!! Long ago, my father's mid-life reckless
drug use destroyed my nuclear family and the after-effects of his
selfishness/sickness will stalk me until the great beyond. So please
kindly do consider me in the JUST SAY NO TO ALL DRUGS camp!!!

September 8, 2017 @ 10:38 AM

bsmntdwllr73

@Mike,
I hope you and your wife enjoy your more legitimate concerts!!

September 8, 2017 @ 10:40 AM

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@bsntdwlr73

I actually assumed you were kidding, but saw a follow up and decided to shut it down. :)

And I won't be at Lauren Hill and Nas. I wasn't invited!

September 8, 2017 @ 10:50 AM

bsmntdwllr73

@Mike,
Thanks for having my back! As for your not being invited to the
Nas concert, the odds on Ms. Lauryn Hill taking to the stage are
probably lower than Axl Rose's onstage percentage back in the day!
At least you know that he will be on time and maybe even early when
you go the upcoming Guns concert!!

September 8, 2017 @ 10:54 AM

H.o.E.

Well, particularly if it's free, I'd rather go see some of those tribute bands than pay hundreds of dollars to see the present remnants of some of the real bands, and it looks like the weather should be good for the whole weekend.
http://thekingsway.ca/events/taste-of-the-kingsway/#events
I saw "Elton Rohn" a few weeks ago. Even though I never bought an Elton John album or saw him live, I still recognized every song, even things like Elderberry Wine, Bad Side of the Moon, Ballad of Danny Bailey, and Teacher I Need You. I just looked at Ticketmaster, and the cheapest ticket option it listed to see Elton John in St. Catharines was $408 !
For the most part, I was never a big fan of the bands that were big enough to now have tribute bands, and the bands I liked the most were a notch below that level of popularity, even if they did play arenas and football stadiums in their heyday. For example, I see that Carl Palmer (now the last living member of ELP) is playing shows in Markham, Brampton, and Oakville in October, and I might go see one of those.

September 8, 2017 @ 10:56 AM

H.o.E.

Something that almost never gets mentioned in Canada -- When you have a situation with 'vice' businesses (drugs, prostitution, gambling) being supposedly officially illegal, yet at the same time unofficially tolerated to some extent through a lack of enforcement from courts and police, you also have a very strong potential for a corrupt system. When you have only token (no pun intended) enforcement against selected violators while a blind eye is turned to others in the same business, are some tolerated because they are favourites of the authorities who are possibly being given envelopes of cash to determine who they target or leave alone? It looks bad regardless of how much of it there really is, and invites it even if it may not be perceived to be a problem at the moment. More than one part of Australia has already been through this type of thing.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-12/four-corners-moonlight-state-afp-protected-chris-masters/8607314

September 8, 2017 @ 11:31 AM

bsmntdwllr73

@H.o.E.,
Would have liked to have attended the Elton Rohn gig at the CNE but
I took in the B. Cummings show at the Bandshell instead. Was only
able to catch Mr. Rohn's last song that night, "Crocodile Rock", and was
thoroughly impressed with his performance. He is obviously a much more
melodic version of the real deal at this point! in fact, I saw Billy Joel and Elton
John in a tandem concert back in '95 and they both were horrible that evening.
Add twenty years on and while their indelible melodies are timeless, both of
these incredible pianists should have dropped the mike decades ago!! As for
your mentioning Carl Palmer of ELP fame, I have his three live CDs dedicated
to his former band's'oeuvre and they are incredible. Should be a great concert!!

September 8, 2017 @ 12:23 PM

The Voice of Reason

Elton Rhon, is a killer tribute to the original.

@bsmntdwllr73

I concur, saying no to all drugs. With MJ coming out as legal, we will have a generation of lazy burnouts coming behind us.
Trudeau has failed Canada yet again.

September 8, 2017 @ 4:10 PM

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@TVOR

Newsflash: kids are already smoking dope. Did you know anyone in high school who wanted to score some weed but couldn't?

Me neither.

And for the record, I don't smoke anything... and I've asked my teenagers to do their dad a personal favour and refrain from trying it until their little brains have fully formed.

But legalizing weed won't make more kids smoke it. Of this I'm certain.

September 8, 2017 @ 4:18 PM

The Voice of Reason

@Mike

Peer pressure has always pushed teens to try things they may not normally do. If it is legal, definitely more kids will sample. If heroin was legal more people would try it.

Good call with the kids however, no drug is good for forming brains.

September 8, 2017 @ 5:24 PM

Jason from Sudbury

I read online that Rus Holden is retiring after 50 years at Rogers. That's impressive.

September 8, 2017 @ 6:06 PM

chris

JJ Watt is such an inspiration to all of those affected by Hurricane Harvey wanting to raise money food & supplies to all.
He created a website to donate & 100% would be given & has now collected over $30MM of $ & supplies for relief efforts. He is even loading up trucks & cars with everyday people leaving.
A great Humanitarian overall & my accolades to you.

September 8, 2017 @ 6:40 PM

Ben V

Wrong again VOR. I'm in Portugal right now where all drugs are legal. I don't see people strung out on every corner. Or heroin needles all over the place. It's not like there aren't problems, but Portugal is no worse off since they did so

Mike is also right, weed is more easily purchase than alcohol for most teens. It's also widely used and less harmful than regular cigarettes or alcohol. The only people that think legalizing weed will create a generation of stoners are the same people that would be prone to believing babies get here by giant storks.

September 8, 2017 @ 6:54 PM

markosaar

Minor correction but drugs aren't legal in Portugal...just decriminalised. Still illegal, but now people get fines and/or treatment over minor possession, instead of having their lives ruined.

It was done in response to an overdose crisis, and they went from a rate of ~77 overdose deaths per million to ... 3.

September 9, 2017 @ 1:01 AM

Cheryl

Marijuana legalized. That means more people are going to be smoking it, yuck. They shouldn't do that. Well, how about those Indians. Well, they beat my Orioles. I thought they would. Edwin Encarnacion homers again. He's on a roll. My Diamondbacks lost last night even though JD Martinez homered again. Patrick Corbin lost another game. In curling, Kean lost the first, but won the second. I wish they would keep the original name, Team Kean. They had to change to this Woodstock something or other. I don't know why they had to do that. Ready for some football. Ravens, Browns, and Cardinals will all win.

September 9, 2017 @ 8:12 AM

Anonymous

@ Cheryl team kean had to change their name because they are running from the law due to alleged illegal activities.Actually this week their name is Woodbridge...next week it will be Woodstock.

September 9, 2017 @ 8:44 AM

bsmntdwllr73

Last nights' concerts at the Taste of the Kingsway were quite enjoyable, even if
the dude singing for the CCR act looked like he swallowed John Fogerty (it's
okay, don't hate on me because I made a weight joke, I'm an Original Chubster,
so it is quite permissible!!) anyway, the British Legends act featured strong tributes
to D. Bowie, P. McCartney and the Bee Gees. I haven't seen such immersive dedication
to one's craft since Ben Stiller went "full 'tard" (words as written in original film script!)
in Tropic Thunder!!! hopefully tonight's AC/DC tribute will feature more music from the
superior Bon Scott era but probably not. Either way, it should be an interesting 75 minutes.
P.S., never thought that The Voice Of Reason and I would agree on anything! I think that it might
be time for me to rethink my position!!!

September 9, 2017 @ 9:26 AM

Ben V

@Markosaar: You are correct. I consider them one in the same but you are right decriminalize. Currently in Barrio Alto, more artistic area of lisbon and was speaking to people in a bar who were openly smoking mj. The police here won't touch you for any drugs unless you are being a public menace for something else. They are more worried about opiods and the increase in that vs heroin.

September 9, 2017 @ 10:27 AM

The Voice of Reason

@Ben V

One society (Portugal) is not a great case study.

Colorado has had not traffic related deaths due to marijuana than in any past study.

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/25/colorado-marijuana-traffic-fatalities/

Coincidence? I think not.

September 9, 2017 @ 5:05 PM

Urooj Islam

Toronto Mike guest Richard Syrett doing half the show of tonight's episode of Coast to Coast AM on Ty Cobb!

That's cool!

September 10, 2017 @ 12:52 AM

Ben V

@TVOR: Did you actually read the article you posted?

"Authorities say the numbers cannot be definitively linked to legalized pot". The article also goes on to state that the measurement of weed in the blood stream does not take into affect when it was last used because that could have been 24hrs ago.


At the same time I don't remember anyone saying "smoking pot is safer than alcohol when it comes to driving" nor did anyone suggest people shoud drive and smoke pot. Make it a crime like drinking and driving.

September 10, 2017 @ 5:59 AM

The Voice of Reason

@Ben V

Of course I read it. The article was clearly slanted to fight the point of legalization. The statistics, no matter how they are presented still do not lie.
As pot use increases, so do the crimes that are associated with the drug.

The drug permanently impacts the brain, especially with people under the age of 25. Legalizing this is just adding to the costs in healthcare down the road.

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/marijuana/what-are-marijuanas-long-term-effects-brain

September 10, 2017 @ 7:51 AM

Cheryl

Kean definitely chaged their name to shopwoodstock.com. I didn't know it was because of the law. Well, how about those Indians? That's great even though they beat my Orioles. Edwin Encarnacion and Franky Lindor homered for my Indians. Tim Beckham homered for my Orioles. My Diamondbacks lost though. Fernando Rodney blew a save. Well, Woodstock lost last night. They won and then they lose the last game. They don't qualify. That's no good about Kean losing. Football today. Ravens, Browns, and Cardinals will all win.

September 10, 2017 @ 8:22 AM

Ben V

@ TVOR: You've clearly overlooked the stats in that article on drunk drivers. The amount of deaths associated to that farrrrrr outnumber anything related to mj. Yet booze is legal everywhere and cigarettes. The worry you have over weed is unfounded.

My use of Portugal as an example isn't the only country there are at least 5 more that have decriminalize or have legal amounts you can use or carry and their youth haven t fallen into the abyss.

I have yet to see a stat that smoking weed has more adverse effects than long term ciragarettes alcohol or fatty food consumption, but thank you for the fear mongering and welcome to the 21st century.

September 10, 2017 @ 11:37 AM

Cheryl

Well, Kean didn't win. I will keep calling them Team Kean no matter what. What about those Indians? Another great win even though it's over my Orioles. Franky Lindor and Roberto Perez homered. Chris Davis homered for the Orioles. My Diamondbacks won as well. JD Martinez hit a couple more homers. Paul Goldschmidt also homered. Great win. My Ravens won as well, but my Browns and Cardinals lost.

September 11, 2017 @ 8:27 AM

The Voice of Reason

@Ben V

Facts speak louder than "fears". Most friends that I have that used marijuana as a teen upgraded to harder drugs. Most that were casual drinkers never touched the hard drugs.

Here is a reference for you to consume.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4582548/Proof-cannabis-DOES-lead-teenagers-harder-drugs.html

September 11, 2017 @ 9:32 AM

bsmntdwllr73

I had a great time at the Taste of the Kingsway Festival over the weekend and
saw/heard a lot of great interpretations of some excellent music. Saturday night's
AC/DC cover band were awesome even if For Those About To Rock was omitted.
There were a bunch of younglings getting their serious rock on and it was heart-
warming to see, as my very first concert experience was the Osmonds back in 1978
at the old CNE Grandstand (no shame there, folks!). Yesterday I saw tributes to
Foreigner and The Eagles. The former was pretty good but the latter act was beyond
belief, and The Eagles aren't even one of my go-to bands! And lastly, I read Mike's tweet
about Ms. Lauryn Hill appearing onstage on time, so I will gladly eat my words over my
disparaging remarks in this regard the other day!!

September 11, 2017 @ 9:33 AM

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@bsmntdwllr73

As you know, my wife was at last night's Lauryn Hill show, and she had a blast but did say she rearranged her songs to a point where they were unrecognizable. Even big Lauryn Hill fans were left wondering what song that was.

Nas was great, I'm told... now I need to learn why Lauryn is pulling a Dylan here...

September 11, 2017 @ 9:57 AM


Anecdotal proof

@VoR ..

Your anecdotal observation of your friends does not prove anything; it's just your personal observation. It could just as easily have been said "friends of VoR are more prone to upgrade to hard drugs".

The Daily Mail is a poor source to back your "claims".

"Wikipedia bans Daily Mail as 'unreliable' source"
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/08/wikipedia-bans-daily-mail-as-unreliable-source-for-website

September 11, 2017 @ 10:01 AM

bsmntdwllr73

@Mike,
I don't want to start any blasphemous rumours surrounding Ms. Lauryn Hill,
but she was entangled with the legendary Marley family for quite a long time
(one of Bob Marley's kids is one of her baby daddies!), so perhaps she over-sampled
some of their may trademarked THC products!! As for the drastic rearranging of her
back catalogue, I believe that this goes back to her MTV Unplugged session back in the
early aughts. At least with Bob Dylan he always has a great back-up band propping up
the music even if you don't know what the phuck(!) he's singing!!

September 11, 2017 @ 10:08 AM

The Voice of Reason

@Anecdotal proof

Don't let the facts blind you, but our prisons are full of people that started off using marijuana.
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/chapter/drug_prison


I am sure you will respond with something like, "Every person that has consumed water, has or will die at some point"

September 11, 2017 @ 10:09 AM


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@bsmntdwllr73

Her fans seem very happy with last night, so maybe this guy who stayed home to watch the kids and the Tom Petty doc on Netflix should shut his yapper.

September 11, 2017 @ 10:16 AM

bsmntdwllr73

@Mike,
Please shut this MJ madness down immediately!! I would almost prefer
Trump or Ford Family BS to this nonsense!!

September 11, 2017 @ 10:18 AM

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@bsmntdwllr73

Next we'll be discussing whether Canada should bring back capital punishment or outlaw abortions.

@all

I hereby declare that those who don't want to consume marijuana don't have to. For the adults who choose to enjoy responsibly, I welcome the day this is not criminal behaviour.

September 11, 2017 @ 10:21 AM

bsmntdwllr73

@Mike,
Minus your lovely wife and her concert mate(s), I might have to question the
sanity of anyone who thinks that they will get an agreeable musical experience
out of L. Hill in 2017! I think that your time was definitely better spent watching
that Tom Petty documentary on Netflix. Sad but true story: Saturday is the third
anniversary of my mother's passing and the night three weeks previous when she
went into the hospital, I had a ticket to Tom Petty at the ACC but obviously had to
forfeit. I still have that ticket somewhere in the back of my closet.

September 11, 2017 @ 10:24 AM

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@bsmntdwllr73

I'm sorry about your mum. :(

September 11, 2017 @ 10:26 AM

bsmntdwllr73

@Mike,
Thanks! But it still would have been nice to see Tom Petty. Didn't
have the scratch to attend his recent show here in August. On the
bright side, I caught a terrific T. Petty tribute act, Full Moon Fever (Hmm!!),
at last year's Taste of the Kingsway Festival. Kind of sad that the free outdoor
concert system has come to an end as I'm not a fan of the bar/club scene.
Besides, most of the music I like (cough...dinosaur acts!...cough) usually wind up
at Rama or Fallsview, a royal pain in the ass to get to if you are sans car!!

September 11, 2017 @ 10:34 AM

The Voice of Reason

@Mike

Will try to veer from the marijuana discussion.

Great Sunday of NFL football however.

Notice TFC has not been mentioned often since last years championship here. Yet they clinched a playoff berth for the third consecutive year.

September 11, 2017 @ 10:53 AM

H.o.E.

The L.A. Coliseum looked to be about one-third full for the Rams season opener, and the Chargers may have trouble filling their soccer stadium of only 30,000 seats.
http://sports.yahoo.com/ton-empty-seats-greet-rams-start-second-season-l-215255016.html

Maybe they should consider greatly reducing the number of permanent seats in the new Hollywood Park stadium being built for both teams to use starting in 2020 to something significantly less than the planned 70,000.

September 11, 2017 @ 11:42 AM

The Voice of Reason

@H.o.E

Brilliant idea, lets move two NFL teams to a city that has proven it can't even support one NFL team.

September 11, 2017 @ 11:56 AM

H.o.E.

@bsmntdwllr73
I've taken buses to both Rama and Fallsview, and they are a p.i.t.a. as they make you stay there for an extra two or three hours in addition to the show you're going to see. Fallsview isn't quite as bad as I can easily leave and walk into the town, and I like the smaller venue and somewhat shorter bus ride. Rama is in the middle of nowhere and if you don't gamble there's nothing to do except sit around in the lobby or the Tim's. I now avoid going there unless it's something I really want to see. I doubt I will have any reason to go to either one, if and when they build something similar at Woodbine.

September 11, 2017 @ 12:16 PM

Cheryl

How about those Indians. That was a great win again. Carlos Carrasco pitched a gem. The winning streak continues. My Orioles had to lose though. Pathetic even though Mark Trumbo hit a home run. My Diamondbacks lost again. At least my Indians are so good. They will keep pouring it on.

September 12, 2017 @ 7:00 AM

The Voice of Reason

It seems NBC’s John Heilemann feels that Breitbart News is the most powerful news source in the US.
Presenting facts, both side of the argument and truth seem to be pushing the traffic to the site.

September 12, 2017 @ 8:15 AM

Bert

Just when you think TVOR can't say anything more unreasonable, he describes Breitbart as presenting both sides, facts and truth. Thanks for the morning laugh!

September 12, 2017 @ 8:48 AM

Anonymous

ROFL .. Breitbart & truth\facts mentioned in same breath.

the VoR, our self-admitted troll.

September 12, 2017 @ 9:35 AM

bsmntdwllr73

@H.o.E.,
I went to Rama two weeks in a row back in '04 to see Journey and Avg. Wh. Band/
Hall and Oates/Michael McDonald, and while both of these concerts were great, the
Greyhound trips were a horrific nightmare. It doesn't help that a lot of my favourite
music is made by dinosaur bands, who probably wouldn't nab a comparable fee in
Toronto proper. Besides, these concerts are often used as loss leaders by the casinos
to lure unsuspecting, clueless weekend warrior gamblers into their hallowed venues.
I definitely don't want to be any part of that scene. Plus, casino gigs are notoriously
shorter for obvious reasons! Also, not being a driver or having anyone who would
be willing to drive me up there, my only other option would be to hitch-hike and
after seeing what nearly happened to Wheels (R.I.P.!) on the original Degrassi TV
series, I took a solemn blood oath to never go down that path!!

@Mike,
Lauryn Hill does not deserve the designation of legend nor hall of fame
status, simply off the release of one good Fugees album ( I know there was
an earlier LP!) and one solo studio platter. In my honest, not-so-humble opinion,
Alicia Keys is a hell of a lot more talented, and she peaked creatively with her second
album nearly 15 years ago!! The best thing that Lauryn Hill currently represents is a
cautionary tale to budding singers that they should resist the lure of all tobacco/THC
products, unless they intend to be the next Tom Waits or a potential fill-in singer for
AC/DC!! Furthermore, at the Taste of the Kingsway Festival this past weekend, at least
two different acts paid musical tribute to noted 27-Club member Amy Winehouse.
As far as I can discern, Ms. Hill's music has largely been relegated to the over-exuberant
contestants of reality TV shows!! Speaking of The Fugees, whatever happened to that
original Ghetto Superstar, Pras?!? P.S., nice to see nearly-forgotten '90s CanCon rockers
Rusty name-checked on your Twitter feed!!

September 12, 2017 @ 9:44 AM

Javed Jafri

The Hall and Oates ref reminded me that early on they were a more creative act and got a fair bit of air play on progressive rock stations. Their Abandoned Luncheonette album was a staple on FM radio. There is a back story about the Luncheonette displayed on the cover of the album.

This is one of the tracks that got a fair bit of FM airplay:
https://youtu.be/CuARxcqowfE

September 12, 2017 @ 10:24 AM

bsmntdwllr73

@Javed Jafri,
Hall and Oates lost the plot a long time ago. I personally love their
War Babies album and I obviously discovered belatedly, as I was only a
little more than a year old when it was originally released back in 1974.
Also a big fan of 1979's X-Static because it featured "Wait For Me", my
absolute favourite song of theirs. I have seen them twice now and didn't
hear it either time. Still performed in 2017 but usually only in cities on the
U.S. eastern seaboard.

September 12, 2017 @ 10:33 AM

Jave jafri

@bsmntdwllr73
War Babies was produced by the multi-talented Todd Rundgren, so many groups including the Steve Miller Band, Fleetwood Mac, Jefferson Airplane/Starship and Journey went through a commercialization phase and in most cases as the music got more "pop" it deteriorated. One exception to that de-evolution was Mellencamp who actually got better after his initial mega success.

September 12, 2017 @ 11:18 AM

bsmntdwllr73

Just heard the most horrific version of one of my favourite one-hit wonders, "You
Get What You Give" (1998) by the New Radicals, and this little piece of Heaven on
Wax was massacred by some DJ character called Felix Cartal. What an awful bit
of audio driftwood!!!

September 12, 2017 @ 12:26 PM

bsmntdwllr73

@Javed Jafri
Have to respectfully disagree somewhat about John Mellencamp's
career trajectory post-mega success. Sometimes it felt like the music
suffered once Kenny Aronoff and several other key band members either
died, left or were fired. Lyrically he still has a lot of important things left to
say, but sometimes the music almost seemed like a slapdash afterthought.
Also, Journey's first three albums with Steve Perry were the best because
Gregg Rollie was still in the band. Jonathan Cain eventually gave them "Faithfully"
(my fave!!), but he also helped to usher in an overly-polished, less-rocking sound.
And finally, I can't help but feel as if Todd Rundgren is somewhat artistically similar
to Mellencamp (without the comparable commercial success levels), in that he has
basically spent his entire career doing whatever the hell he feels like, chart numbers
be (eternally) damned!! (Except for a few brief instances where he and a generally
indifferent public temporarily found themselves in harmonious alignment!)

September 12, 2017 @ 12:36 PM

Javed Jafri

@bsmntdwllr73
Todd Rundren has a long history starting with his band Nazz who's Open My Eyes is a psychedelic masterpiece. Then there was Runt and "We Got Get You a Woman". Classic albums followed like Something Anything and A Wizard and True Star. He was also an ace producer.

re Mellencamp I like the fact that he eschewed the corporate whims and directions of stuff like Jack and Diane and pursued more of a roots rock approach with greater artistic integrity.

The journey I was thinking of was pre Steve Perry when they were a quite a different band to what they became. Like this track:
https://youtu.be/zjc6DewAa2I

September 12, 2017 @ 1:52 PM

bsmntdwllr73

@Javed Jafri
My favourite Mellencamp albums are "Nothin' Matters and What If It Did" and "Scarecrow."
Big fan of almost all of Todd Rundgren's late '60s to early '90s oeuvre, especially the two
distinct Utopia eras. As for Journey, I'm also a disciple of the three original albums before
Steve Perry led them in another direction. Fun fact: Both Kansas and Rush toured with
Journey through this period and if one were to listen to "Carry On Wayward Son" and
"Tom Sawyer", there just might be a decent case for out and out plagiarism through
osmosis! (Just listen to "I'm Gonna Leave You" and "Nickel and Dime" by Journey for
the proof!!

September 12, 2017 @ 4:38 PM

Anonymous

@bsmntdwllr73
Had forgotten about Utopia as I was writing about Todd ( and remember the New Cars). There is one track by them that I love called Princess of The Universe. There's a recording I made in 1982 off gonzo rock/alternative outfit WUWU FM from Buffalo and the way the station ID segues into the song is total Rock'n Roll.
You can hear it below. They go from Jonathan Richman into Utopia with the ID in the middle at 3:13 of the clip. The station ID is worth the cost of admission:
http://www.lettheuniverseanswer.com/2015/10/08/wuwu-fm-buffalo-ids-more-encore

September 12, 2017 @ 9:14 PM

Cheryl

My favourite song by Hall and Oates is Sarah Smile. I love that song and I also like One on One. Yes, John Mellencamp. My favourite album by his is American Fool. Great album, but so are his others and I really like Nothing Matters and What If It Did. I like John Mellencamp a lot and Bob Seger. How about those Indians. Great win last night with another home run by Franky Lindor. He's the best shortstop in baseball. My Orioles didn't win though. It's so pathetic. Zach Britton blew a save. My Diamondbacks also lost, but JD Martinez homered again.

September 13, 2017 @ 8:27 AM


Javed Jafri

My favorite Sara Smiles is a different song by Bram Tchaikovsky. He was once a member of the motors. I still have the 45.

@bsmntdwllr73
When I was talking about Todd I forgot about Utopia ( and remember the New Cars ). My very favorite track by them is called Princess of The Universe. Ingrained in my memory because I saved an air check on Buffalo rock/alternate outlet WUWU FM from 1980 where the tack is played and preceding the track is an exceptional WUWU station ID and the way the ID segues into the track is, for want of a better expression, pure rock'n roll.

Click on Javed Jafri and go to the site and type in WUWU ID's in the serach field and you can hear the ID at 3:13 of the clip between Jonathan Richman and Todd. The ID is worth the price of admission.

September 13, 2017 @ 9:22 AM

bsmntdwllr73

@Javed Jafri
Great Utopia track and I thought the New Cars were great, especially the three
new songs on "It's Alive!" And oh wow, The Motors and Bram Tchaikovsky!! I love
"Airport", "Love and Loneliness", and "Dancing The Night Away" (Cheap Trick did a
great cover of that last song in '83!). Somewhere in my storage unit I have several
Bram Tchaikovsky tapes and I really loved "Girl Of My Dreams" and "Soul Surrender."
You certainly have excellent taste in music!!

September 13, 2017 @ 9:37 AM

Javed Jafri

I think I have the 45 of Girl of My Dreams as well and thrilled that someone else remembers that great music. Also a correction the air check that I mentioned from WUWU FM with the ID and Utopia is from 1982 and not 1980.

September 13, 2017 @ 9:56 AM

bsmntdwllr73

@Javed Jafri
And what about "Starry Eyes" by The Records, later covered by
Too Much Joy in 1992?

September 13, 2017 @ 9:59 AM

bsmntdwllr73

@Javed Jafri,
I used to listen to Buffalo's 97Rock in the late '80s and early '90s on
Sunday nights just to hear Jeff Johns' Music Notes show. BTW, my fave
Utopia tracks include "Crybaby", "Mated", "The Very Last Time", and
"Set Me Free". I'm also a huge fan of Todd R.'s "Nearly Human" release!

September 13, 2017 @ 10:11 AM

Anonymous

The Records were great and I have a picture sleeve of the Starry Eyes 45.

CFNY was great at exposing that music and know they had an accent on "New Music" the thing about them for a long time was they they were not exclusively confined to modern rock. You could also hear vintage music.

The other thing is that as great as CFNY was ( and I miss it dearly) I found that Buffalo stations such as WBUF, WZIR and WUWU gave exposure to music which was largely ignored by NY. I am talking about sub genres like the original garage rock of the 60's and neo garage bands like the Fleshtones and Chesterfield Kings. Also roots rock and power pop. Marshal Crenshaw is a great example. He actually had a top 40 hit in the US and I would hear his Cynical Girl on WUWU but do not recall him being played on CFNY. Bob Mackowycz on his Sunday show on Q 107 would also cover this type of music.

September 13, 2017 @ 11:43 AM

Javed Jafri

oops forgot my name on the last comment and The walrus was Paul.

September 13, 2017 @ 11:47 AM

H.o.E.

"Kick Out The Jams" is a good name for that. Much like "Born To Be Wild", I think everyone and their brother has covered that song.

September 13, 2017 @ 3:00 PM

H.o.E.

I still haven't figured out exactly how transfers now work on the TTC when using a PrestoCard. And I'm not sure the TTC has either, as they're very inconsistent.

The simplest way would have been for them to just follow what the other local GTA jurisdictions (Mississauga, Vaughan, etc.) already did, and have it be a free transfer if you use it to reboard any time within two hours after you last paid. But of course this is the TTC, where doing anything that simplifies or may encourage more riders must be rejected, supposedly because they thought it would result in a decrease in total fare revenue. Some time in the last year Presto was giving out a small pamphlet that quite specifically stated the TTC had indeed started doing this exactly like the cities. But it was incorrect, as it is the case sometimes, but not other times. And the TTC also still refuse to accept any form of transfer from any other city's system or GO Transit.

From what I can see, the official line from the TTC states they still have exactly the same rules for transfers that they did before they started accepting PrestoCard -- that free transfers only apply for one continuous trip with no stop-overs, and that "the card readers do not recognize the two hour time based transfer".
http://ttc.ca/Fares_and_passes/Fare_information/Transfers/Time_based_transfers.jsp

But that is also definitely not true, and there certainly are situations where you do get a free transfer if it's under two hours since you last paid.
From what I can see:
If you initially boarded the system at a subway station, you never receive a free transfer if you next swipe the PrestoCard to enter another subway station, even when it's less than two hours later.
It does usually give you a free transfer within two hours if one or both times you swiped the card were on a surface vehicle (bus or streetcar), but then sometimes that also results in them charging you another $3 fare if the routes do not connect to each other, or some times when you use the same route to go back in the opposite direction you initially traveled. For example, if you get on a St. Clair streetcar going east, then next swipe the card to get on a St. Clair streetcar going west, you will be charged another fare no matter how little time has passed.

If they do eventually intend to somehow re-program the entire TTC PrestoCard system to work in the way they want (with no free transfers for stop-overs), that would seem to be immensely complicated. It would have to involve the system being able to automatically relate every single bus and streetcar stop to every other stop to set a different arbitrary time limit for connecting to each one, and also have to allow for variances for routes that run less frequently at different times of the day or week, and delays caused by unpredictable traffic and construction situations.

September 13, 2017 @ 3:10 PM

bsmntdwllr73

@Javed Jafri
Marshall Crenshaw's initial run on Warner Bros. records was pure genius,
especially the first two albums!!

September 13, 2017 @ 4:05 PM

bsmntdwllr73

@Mike
I vote to keep the KOTJ episodes under the Toronto Mike umbrella because
I think that they fit in well with everything else on the blog/podcast. Also,
when you finally run out of more worthwhile KOTJammers in the year
2027 or so, I humbly offer my services as the first civilian to get a shot
at the KOTJ pinata!! Maybe even a special-themed episode (Best/Worst
Cover Songs, One-Hit Wonders, 10 Worst Bob Seger Cover Songs!!!) Although
i should probably warn you, I will most likely be living in the newest version
of Tent City by that point (or perhaps in a CAMH compound!!!)

September 13, 2017 @ 4:59 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@bsmntdwllr73

I just created a thread on this topic. I urge you to copy and paste your thoughts there.. and I hope others will chime in as well. I'm considering breaking the KOTJ episodes out, but I'm also considering keeping them where they are...

http://www.torontomike.com/2017/09/should_the_kick_out_the_jams_episo.html

September 13, 2017 @ 5:04 PM

bsmntdwllr73

@Mike
I appreciate your faith in my ability to do something as simple as cut and paste
my previous comments but i'm a technical Luddite!! I'm lucky that I can even find
your blog or any other. Thanks Google! Perhaps I will just reiterate my thoughts in
the correct spot, then?!?

September 13, 2017 @ 5:07 PM


bsmntdwllr73

@Mike
Done and very glad to have done so!! Keep up the great
work!!!

September 13, 2017 @ 5:12 PM

Urooj Islam

Ann Rohmer has vanished again, wonder what's the reason this time.

September 14, 2017 @ 1:10 AM

Cheryl

How about those Indians. 21 in a row now. They will keep it going. Jay Bruce homered. My Orioles finally won again and so did my Diamondbacks. My Ravens play my Browns on Sunday. I want either one. Maybe the Browns will win this time. Hopefully my Cardinals will win as well.

September 14, 2017 @ 7:12 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Urroj Islam

Your Ann Rohmer update is here: Ann Rohmer update is here: https://twitter.com/torontomike/status/905236889254469632

September 14, 2017 @ 9:16 PM

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