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The Voice of Reason

CNN's ratings are increasing while their credibility and reputation are torpedoing....why?

Because of their audience.

They now target the lowest common denominator in political news consumption. Idiots who crave sensationalism in their news...Truth is irrelevant, maybe even eschewed.

It's like the old afternoon talk shows, like Jerry Springer and Maury Povich. They didn't start out as chair tossing brawls complete with the requisite DNA test results. They started out rather tame and focused on a range of human interest stories ...until they saw how they could boost their ratings...appeal to the dummies.

That's CNN...The Jerry Springer of news delivery.

July 7, 2017 @ 8:30 AM


TGIF folks..

July 7, 2017 @ 8:32 AM


I'm first, goody. How about those Indians. That was a great game. Edwin Encarnacion had four hits including a home run. That's wonderful. Jose Ramirez also hit a home run. Josh Tomlin pitched a gem. My Indians need to be consistent though. My Orioles lost another one. This sucks. Mark Trumbo hit a home run, but they still lost. That's no good. My Diamondbacks also lost. Jake Lamb homered twice, but they still lost.

July 7, 2017 @ 8:33 AM


Dad " Can I run the Oakville store ? "

July 7, 2017 @ 9:03 AM

James Edgar

VOR , you do realise i could copy your post Change CNN to Fox News and it would still make sense don't you?

I do understand being upset if the news is being sensationalised at least i do emotionally . I don't if i remember what CNN's (or any news organisation) reason for existing is. And it has nothing to do with news. Zero ,Zilch ,Nada. The reason CNN ,Fox any any other news organisation right down to your local newspaper exists is to make money for the Investors. that's it that's all.

And that's exactly the same reason every business that was ever started is in existence from the largest multi national to a lemonade stand set up by a child.

I find it quite funny that people who claim to be conservatives and so pro enterprise get there panties in a wad when some company or person for that matter realises that sleaze sells and they can benefit from that. It's the logical conclusion of Laissez-faire capitalism after all.

July 7, 2017 @ 9:08 AM


8 days until the birthday podcast everyone has been asking for!

July 7, 2017 @ 9:11 AM


I was just able to listen to someone else's HD Radio and hear 1010 (CFRB) and 1050 (TSN / CHUM) for a few seconds each on the HD2 channels of 99.9 and 104.5 FM. The sound quality is better than on AM, and presumably a few more people with the HD Radio receivers in places on the fringe of the GTA can now receive 1050, although I doubt this will do anything to improve 1050's lowly 0.8 rating, particularly after dumping some of their best-known personalities to cut costs.

^ Speaking of DNA tests (but not Maury Povich) -- Has anyone done one or more those (AncestryDNA, 23andMe, FamilyTreeDNA) and been able to figure out how some previously unknown person on another continent is related to you? I was able to with three different people in England and Australia, one third cousin and two second cousins once removed, who had common ancestors in the 1800s.

July 7, 2017 @ 9:16 AM


Been following the sad story of Gary Sim who was cycling home last weekend when right-hooked by a van and killed.

The problem is the police report wrote:

It is reported that:

- a man, 70, was riding a bicycle, westbound on the north sidewalk of Alliance Avenue, approaching Jane Street

The one media story on this, and keyboard warriors, picked up on the sidewalk detail and derailed the whole conversation. Seen some absolutely vile stuff mocking him as a "cyclist advocate" who rides on the sidewalk, and implying he had it coming.

At first glance to me is that it's hardly a substantiated report. The reporter did no further digging, just based her article on the police report. The police report uses vague language in "it is reported that", and the investigation is ongoing. Nearly 400 comments arguing the sidewalk issue on the ensuing reddit thread too; I haven't see a cyclist debate like that there in a while.

I've now since seen his wife and daughter deny he was on the sidewalk, they chalked it up to "some confusion".

I hope further investigation gets published and clears the air.

July 7, 2017 @ 9:19 AM

James Edgar

@ H.o.E. I've been thinking about one of those DNA tests. I'd like to see if i could get back in touch with any on my cousins in Scotland. We lost touch in the early 80's when my dad's last sister passed away.

@ markosaar I saw a story about this and the sidewalk thing stuck out. I can't imagine he was on the sidewalk but even if he was, how can anyone seriously put forward the opinion that he had it coming if he was? Since when did an adult riding a bicycle on a sidewalk move from a misdemeanour to a capital crime? The driver in this case will almost certainly walk away without penalty (legally at least possibly not emotionally ) as they usually do , drivers of cars being above the law when killing cyclist (or motorcyclists ) most of the time. I hope I'm wrong but i have no reason to believe I am.

July 7, 2017 @ 9:34 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

A glance at Gary Sim's twitter account and it's clear he was an experienced cyclist who got out there just about every day. He had done some long rides recently, and seemed to pop up on the same trails I enjoy.

I wouldn't let the sidewalk detail taint any sympathies.

That area, Jane and Alliance, is one I cycle every Tuesday night while my daughter practices soccer. It's a really awful area to cycle.

July 7, 2017 @ 9:39 AM

Ben V

It's become abundantly apparent that "The Voice of Reason" Is an obtuse troll. His opening comment reveals his ultimate bias. Unlike Fox CNN fired 5 people after a story was run that was found to be untrue. Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly lied with impunity and they almost never put out a retraction or admit to wrong doing.

Calling CNN the Jerry Springer of newscasts is laughable at best and a complete re-imagining of the truth. Fox and it's so called "News" appeals to the lowest common denominator. No bigger example of this than the fact that Trump continually watches their show and recites lies propagated by that network.

I think I have yet to see a newspaper, new shows or other organisation dealing in current events that hasn't had to retract an article or investigation. I think you should actually contrast and compare the recent CNN retraction vs how Fox News handled a retraction within the last 6 months. CNN did so in a day. Fox news say on it for a week. No apology from Fox news. CNN employees resigned. None did at Fox. Oh and that vile human being Sean Hannity continues to go on about this abundantly false conspiracy theory to this day.

At the same time CNN doesn't shelter a serial misogynist and workplace a@#hole, by settling numerous lawsuits for 10+ years. But that's irrelevant to the point I was making above I guess... Or was it?

July 7, 2017 @ 10:18 AM

Rob J


Without CNN, the president would never have been elected. They literally aired live every one of his speeches during the campaign, covering him as if the other more qualified Repub candidates didn't exist, and then had a raft of Trump toadies on afterward to 'analyze' his rantings which they normalized.

Rather than bash CNN, he should "pop a Tic Tac and move on it like a bitch" in gratification.

July 7, 2017 @ 10:25 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

I'd rather read TVOR's nonsense about CNN than his nonsense about The Hip.

Although I believe there is a third option...

July 7, 2017 @ 10:30 AM

Ben V

Can we just not have any nonsense; CNN or The Hip.

July 7, 2017 @ 10:46 AM


By any chance does that third option involve a good public tar and feathering or maybe
some old-fashioned flogging? Or how about just blocking this misguided lost soul permanently,
and help put the rest of us saner folks out of our collective misery?!?

July 7, 2017 @ 10:47 AM

The Voice of Reason


Nothing against "The HIP" just about their "grandstanding" for profit at the end of Gord's life.

To paraphrase James Edgar "sleaze sells and they can benefit from that"

July 7, 2017 @ 10:48 AM

the brother

Gord's final days will likely be very painful for himself and family and those earnings will help offset the expenses associated with his care and support for his family members after he is gone. So rather than framing it as an exploitation how about considering it as a means to sustain himself, his fellow band members and the broader 'family' that it takes to create the art of the Tragically Hip.

July 7, 2017 @ 11:08 AM

VoR fail

re: The Voice of Reason: "CNN's ratings are increasing while their credibility and reputation are torpedoing ... They now target the lowest common denominator in political news consumption. Idiots who crave sensationalism in their news ... Truth is irrelevant, maybe even eschewed ... That's CNN...The Jerry Springer of news delivery."

What an absolute load of BS.

If CNN has a "failing", it's their stance that they must provide views from both sides by bringing on Trumpers such as Kayleigh McEnany, Boris Epshteyn, Kellyanne Conway, Katrina Pierson, Scottie Nell Hughes, Stephen Miller, Corey Lewandowski, Michael “Says who?” Cohen, Jack Kingston, Jeffrey Lord, etc, etc. It's unfortunate but these are dregs that Team Trump offers up.

I've no issue with presenting views from both sides as long as it's reasonable & rational but the utter garbage & spin spewed by the likes of the above named Trumpers is vile. These are truly despicable people who are either seriously disturbed or who have zero morals, soul & integrity.

On many occasions, I've seen CNN anchors such as Don Lemon, Erin Burnett, Brooke Baldwin, Jake Tapper, Anderson Cooper or CNN analysts such as David Gergen, Gloria Borger, Dana Bash, Brianna Keilar challenge items on both the right & left.

Personally, I'd prefer CNN stick solely with their anchors\analysts and dispense with the party cheerleaders.

July 7, 2017 @ 11:28 AM

The Voice of Reason

@Vor fail

Perhaps the key concept is "self-hate"? Canadian love being Canadians; most Americans love being Americans; some British love being British. But some, especially towards the left, have come to embrace "self-hate". They are the ones who exhibit "white men guilt", who apologize for perceived sins of our ancestors, and who try to abolish British Citizenship in favour of EU citizenship. Perhaps it started with the Germans, who seem to been trying to over-compensate for the mistakes of some their ancestors in the 1930s. Then, around the Blair era, then The Brits were told to apologize for the mistakes of their colonialist ancestors, or for the slave trade. In the US, I presume that US school-children are taught by left-wing teachers that they should feel guilt for everything from cotton cultivation to busing. The fall of the Berlin wall (and the integration of Eastern bloc countries into the EU) has caused dismay in European socialists, exacerbated by the upsurge not in guilt and self-hate but in nationalism in those countries. The symptoms of the collapse of a common enemy are that the Left in Europe desperately needed to find some other imaginary monster: they seized on Climate Change, over-population, pollution, fascism, any number of phobias, Christianity. What Trump is doing is scoring open goal after open goal while half the opposing team is still in the dressing room discussing a change of game strategy.

Trump is probably taking a lesson from the leaders of the Poles and Hungarians, especially Orban. He could encourage all Americans once again to be proud to be American rather than invaders or descendants of plantation owners; and he might well try the same if he comes to the Canada, if Justin Trudeau has any spine. Doubtless this would be to the dismay of the Wankerati and the US Democrats. (Inherited guilt runs strong: remember, the Democrats have never forgiven the Republicans for taking away their slaves!)

July 7, 2017 @ 12:51 PM

The Voice of Reason

@The Brother

Great statement, I agree. I feel most of us would do the same thing in a similar position.
I hope Gord's suffering is minimal.

July 7, 2017 @ 12:54 PM

Rick C in Oakville

Wonder how Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is going to stick handle the Omar Khadr , $10.5million secret, (well now not so secret payout), hope he has a pair of fire retardent socks in his drawer, suspect his feet will be put to the fire soon enough.

July 7, 2017 @ 12:58 PM

Ben V

What goals has Trump scored?

July 7, 2017 @ 1:05 PM

The Voice of Reason

@Rick C

Putting Omar and the settlement aside, the whole sordid Khadr family should give pause to Canadians that times have indeed changed. When dual nationals show hatred and scorn for Canada's ideals - like Omar's mother does to this day.....and Omar's father uses Canada as a convenient place to rehab from terrorist's time to rethink the qualifications for gaining and RETAINING Canadian citizenship. The whole silly adage that a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian is just that - silly. There will ALWAYS be a few who game the need to EARN the RIGHT to be a Canadian. We want people who WANT to be Canadian. If there were fewer Khadr families, there'd be fewer Omar Khadrs.

July 7, 2017 @ 1:08 PM


@ The Voice of Reason

Trump didn't rise to power because of left wing guilt. Trump rose to power the same way Hitler did. Find a group of people who feel they have been robbed of a better life they used to have (middle america) , give them a target to hate (environmentalists, big business, FOREIGNERS), promise to vanquish this enemy (build a wall, keep polluting, ) and ride hate to victory

The fact of the matter is the people who voted for Trump are for the most part middle america small town people. They worked at Plant X or Mine X and thought they had gainful employment for life. Unfortunately life doesn't work like that and they saw their jobs taken away (mostly to automation) and need somebody to blame. Trump made some promises to them about bringing plants and mines back to the USA and that won him the election

CNN, like herion addicts, are chasing the dragon. Sensationalist journalism and calling things "breaking news" has a positive effect on ratings... but in order to keep these ratings they need to keep breaking news, even when there isn't any. thus begins sensationalism and trying to make the irrelevant sound important.... but one everything is breaking news, nothing is breaking news

July 7, 2017 @ 1:51 PM

The Voice of Reason


I suppose Godwin's Law takes effect in this debate.

I just came up with The Voice of Reasons's Law, which is particularly applicable within North America. : As an online discussion continues, the probability of a reference or comparison to slavery or racism approaches .

If you live in any mid-major or larger city in the South, you know this law. If you live in Northern cities such as Toronto, Detroit, Chicago or New York, you know this law and its application.

Many naive and simply stupid people invoke racism or slavery every day and most of the time, it is used as an excuse for personal shortcomings or as a self-defense mechanism when you cannot achieve what you hoped to. Life is not guaranteed to be fair.

July 7, 2017 @ 2:53 PM


@ James Edgar
Here is a link to a neutral website that explains DNA testing for genealogy. I found the part about the different testing companies to be the most useful.

I think people who are from a British or Irish background are probably the most likely to have someone show up on a list of DNA relatives who is within the range of a second or third cousin, since most people taking these tests are from the U.S., Canada, Britain, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand.
They'll give you a list of hundreds of others who may be more distant relatives, but once it gets to fourth cousins and beyond, the amount of matching becomes very small, tenuous, and dubious as to whether or not you are actually related and would ever be able establish what family tree connection may exist.
I used AncestryDNA because they have the largest data base (now over 4 million people), then later I used 23andMe where I found one of the matches I mentioned above, although it would appear their price has almost doubled since then. I also transferred raw data to FamilyTreeDNA and MyHeritage, as doing so was free, and similarly Gedmatch, but didn't find any more matches close enough to figure out.

July 7, 2017 @ 3:14 PM


^ "who are within".
I should try reading what I've typed before clicking on "Post Comment".

July 7, 2017 @ 3:27 PM

Rob J

@ elvis

If 1 of your Top 10 songs isn't the theme tune for Y.B.S., I'll be disappointed.

July 7, 2017 @ 3:37 PM

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@Rob J

Great track!

July 7, 2017 @ 3:39 PM


@the voice of reason

Be careful! CNN is very sensitive these days. Dont make a meme against them or they will doxx you!

July 7, 2017 @ 3:55 PM

Urooj Islam

Elvis is doing a Kickin' Out the Jams episode?

Awesome, he has good taste.

July 7, 2017 @ 4:13 PM

Rick C in Oakville

I suspect Elvis will surprise most and have some Captain and Tenille, ABBA and some Kenny Loggins in his top ten.

July 7, 2017 @ 5:05 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

I'm sure Elvis is still upset I told him one song per artist. We were going to get 3 Elvis tracks, 3 Aerosmith, 3 AC/DC and probably All-Star by Smash Mouth.

By the way, he's kicking out his jams because it's his 41st birthday and he's very excited about it.

July 7, 2017 @ 5:07 PM

Rob J

Hearing Kenny Loggins reminds me of a Karl Pilkington Rockbusters clue: "What did the Scotsman say when he couldn't get at his email?" "Kenny Loggins"

July 7, 2017 @ 5:16 PM


Can someone answer these media questions?

How long is an average contract for a radio personality these days? TV?
Do they have ratings 'goals' they have to reach to keep their job, the same way a salesperson would?
How long will a station keep someone employed if their ratings are declining?

July 7, 2017 @ 6:34 PM


Hey Mike, is it possible to start an open Kick Out The Jams comment stream for people to post their top 10? And can you make a rule that comments/responses should be positive/conversation inducing if a person disagrees? I'd post my top 10 in the Open Mike, but it'd get lost in the political dick swinging discourse that your Open Mike's sometimes turn into. Also, I'd like to hear other peoples' lists to be introduced to some new music/songs without having to filter through other comments/discussions.


July 7, 2017 @ 6:40 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


I will invoke the Wilner rule... no shame allowed!

And no judgements shall be passed. If Don't Worry, Be Happy is in my top ten, it's MY top ten, not yours. I need me some Bobby McFerrin!

I'll post it tomorrow.... meanwhile, the following people will soon be visiting to kick out the jams:

Mike Stafford
Damien Cox
Fred Patterson
Ivar Hamilton
Sophia Jurksztowicz
Andrew "Audio Guru" Stoakley
James Duthie
Don Landry
Jeff Lumby
and some guy named Elvis

July 7, 2017 @ 6:44 PM

Rick C in Oakville

@Rob J, good one, being of Scottish decent, we love our self deprecating humour

July 7, 2017 @ 7:44 PM

Rob J

Glad you liked it, Rick C! Karl's Rockbuster clues (heard on Ricky Gervais' old XFM radio show and subsequent podcasts) are both hilarious and thought-provoking.

July 7, 2017 @ 8:04 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


I'll let people in the industry answer you (anonymous, maybe).

I can say I talk to lots of people in the industry and some are on contract (3-5 years) while others are full-time employees of the company.

July 7, 2017 @ 8:15 PM


"Take that, French Guiana!" ?
Do we really want to antagonize a place that launches large rockets in the direction of Canada?

It looks like the launches for polar orbits go north and are tracked by ground stations that include "Saint-Hubert and Saskatoon in Canada".

July 7, 2017 @ 11:12 PM


How about those Indians. Great game. Carlos Carrasco pitched a gem. Lonnie Chisenhall homered and Bradley Zimmer homered. Great for my Indians. My Orioles didn't do well though. They had a 6 to 0 lead and blew it. That's no good. My Diamondbacks won though. Zach Greinke won again. I hope Indians, Orioles and Diamondbacks all win today.

July 8, 2017 @ 8:30 AM


I have 11 songs on my list so far. This is a lot harder than I thought. Thankfully, I'll have the time to explain why a song made the list (and perhaps why one did not).

July 8, 2017 @ 9:44 AM


Mine would be ALL ACDC if you let me, Boon....

July 8, 2017 @ 2:08 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike


I'm about to start up an open call for commenters to kick out the jams... so get that list ready!

July 8, 2017 @ 2:37 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

Attention all commenters: post your 10 favourite songs of all-time right here!

July 8, 2017 @ 2:49 PM


How about those Indians. This rooky pitcher, Mike Clevinger is awesome. He pitched a gem. My Indians won. Also my Orioles won with homers by Jonathan Schoop and Mark Trumbo. That's great. My Diamondbacks lost though which was no good at all. Well, before the all star break, Indians, Orioles and Diamondbacks will win. Let's hope so.

July 9, 2017 @ 8:18 AM

Rob J

MLB All-Star Game coming up on Tuesday. Has it already been a year since the Rogue Tenor stole the show??

July 9, 2017 @ 1:02 PM


It's early.

July 10, 2017 @ 7:21 AM


My Indians lost. That's no good at all. Corey Kluber didn't pitch well at all. He had an off night. They better win after the break. Jose Ramirez hit another home run though. My Orioles won yesterday though. Manny Machado homered twice which is a great thing. My Diamondbacks lost. Well, so all star break. Ho hum. Oh well, this is going to be a very light week for sports, that's for sure.

July 10, 2017 @ 8:26 AM

Rob J

The All-Star Game used to be one of the highlights of the sports calendar for me as a kid. Being a fan of an out-of-market team 3 time-zones away, it was an extremely rare chance to see Fernando. Sax, Guerrero, Hershiser, Lasorda, etc (at least till the playoffs started when CTV carried all the exciting action). The added bonus was hearing the call by Vin Scully and Joe Garagiola when NBC did the game. Obviously the glut of reg season games available on TV makes the ASG a little less special and the ratings will be pathetic, but I'll be tuning in.

July 10, 2017 @ 12:45 PM

Neil Clarke Warren

Sooo..the kids are out of school now for a week. CP24 has had any kids that showed up for the cattle call and have put them thru the demanding 1 hour and 23 minute training non paid course and passed cause well,some stayed awake.
Now,many new faces on air..
Disgusting,the 5th largest media market in North America deserves better !!
Ya, I get it non paid staff to save money..
Where's Annie ?

July 10, 2017 @ 3:58 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Neil Clarke Warren

Ann tells me she's resting her voice until August.

July 10, 2017 @ 4:16 PM

Neil Clarke Warren

@ T Mike soo you are the ONLY person left that believes anything that Ann says.
Then again you did say "Ann tells me" you did not say you believe it.

July 10, 2017 @ 6:47 PM

Rob J

The wild-eyed announcers of the HR Derby are acting like they've literally never seen a home run before tonight in a season where the homer has never been more prevalent. . Take a drink whenever the female voice screams "OH MY GOOOOODNESSSS!!!"

July 10, 2017 @ 9:18 PM

Rob J

At the risk of sounding like a 1950s drunk dad, the lead play by play guy (male) is the one who sent me scrambling for the mute button.

July 10, 2017 @ 9:43 PM


@Rob J

Agree the announcers for HR Derby this year are terrible. Where is Chris Berman "Back, Back, Back".

July 10, 2017 @ 10:09 PM

Rob J


Berman's carny-style approach was hand-made for an event like this, no doubt. I ended up going down a youtube rabbit-hole of some of the most famous homers in MLB history. Still get chills watching Gibson, Fisk, Thomson, Reggie, Aaron, Chambliss, etc. do their thing, making baseball's rich tradition so appealing.

July 10, 2017 @ 11:01 PM


A light night for sports. I could care less about the home run derby. I mean apparently it can make players not hit as well the rest of the games in the regular season. Anyway, my Cavs signed Jose Calderone. Is he still good? I hope so, but who knows. My Habs will win the cup next year. It's about time.

July 11, 2017 @ 7:22 AM


I miss regular baseball, and there won't be any for today or tomorrow either. I don't know how I ever managed without liking baseball before. Oh well, can't wait until Friday when we will get some again. The all star break is so long, that's for sure.

July 12, 2017 @ 8:43 AM

Rob J

A mic'd-up Bryce Harper chatting with Joe Buck about the NFL during the game last night was odd. Maybe Tyler Seguin can talk MLS with Jim Hughson during the NHL ASG next year.

July 12, 2017 @ 11:57 AM


Well, I'm tired of the jam stuff and the open Mike being intertwined together. That's no good at all. I mean when I go to Open Mike, this thing about the jams comes up. I finally got to the open Mike. Oh well, just something I have to put up with I suppose. Still no baseball. Why is the all star break so long? I mean during the hockey all star break, there is still basketball and during the NBA all star break, there is still hockey. Anyway, still no baseball tonight either. Why do they need today off as well?

July 13, 2017 @ 7:20 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

Hi Cheryl,

The Open Call to Kick Out the Jams! is completely sepearate from last Friday's Open Mike.

No intertwining! :)

July 13, 2017 @ 11:19 AM

Rob J

The Sun felt yesterday's Mayweather-McGregor appearance (not the fight mind you: just the scripted trash-talking) needed 7 pages of coverage. Hard to have empathy for a 'dying' medium sometimes.

Though it will give Simmons a guaranteed column the day after the fight, likely entitled "Suckered Again". He's probably already written it.

July 13, 2017 @ 11:43 AM

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