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Jamie

Is it even worth the pain and agony to watch the Raptors tonight? Does anyone think there's a chance to make this a series?

April 24, 2015 @ 8:37 AM

Al The Royal Pain

If anyone here lives in the Stouffville area, my band is playing at the Sgt. Pepper's there tonight. There was a last minute cancellation and we got the call.

The T.O. Mike special applies, if a commentor from this site comes to a show and introduces himself to me, the first beer is on me.

Here is some video of what you can expect from one of our shows:

April 24, 2015 @ 8:37 AM

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@Jamie

I don't believe this team can come back after losing the first two at home.

April 24, 2015 @ 8:44 AM

Stan

I need new podcast recommendations. Canadian, preferably.

I liked Torrens and Taggart for a while, then got bored of the schtick. I tried Humble and Fred but couldn't stand the juvenile humour and 'woe is me' garble. Not to kiss Mike's ass, but I really like Toronto Mike'd, but need more because I have more than an hour a week of podcast time to fill.

So tell me what I should try. Go!

April 24, 2015 @ 8:46 AM

4x4 Time

I have watched all of the Netflix series people have commented about in previous posts - Downton, Orange, Luther, Bloodline, Killing, Broadchurch....Any other ones you have enjoyed?

April 24, 2015 @ 8:51 AM

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@4x4 Time

On her mat leave, my wife really enjoyed Wentworth. It's a better, grittier, Aussie version of OITNB, and it came first.

I don't know if you got the free preview of Shomi I got from Rogers, but there I enjoyed Black Mirror and Transparent.

Currently, I'm too busy with playoff action to watch anything but Mad Men on Sunday nights.

April 24, 2015 @ 8:54 AM

Al The Royal Pain

@Stan

Not specifically Canadian, but an interesting podcast about all things internet is "Reply All". Also, if you're an entrepreneur at heart, you might enjoy "Start Up".

April 24, 2015 @ 8:55 AM

Bob

On Netflix, make sure you watch Arrested Development. And The Unbreakable Kimmie Schmidt.

April 24, 2015 @ 8:56 AM

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@Stan

A lot of the best podcasts coming out of this country are CBC shows.

Quirks and Quarks
Ideas
Under the Influence
Spark
Tapestry

They're all pretty awesome. And thanks for listening to mine, too. :)

April 24, 2015 @ 8:58 AM

Argie

It might ultimately help the Raps, but this 3 day break between games is a pain in the ass.

April 24, 2015 @ 9:07 AM

GUNTer

I watched a great doc this week called Supermensch The Legend of Shep Gordon.
Shep was a star manager in Hollywood for Alice Cooper and many other major players. He also developed the idea of TV Chefs, amongst many other things. The way he got his start was hilarious - he broke up what he thought was a man beating on a woman, turned out it was Janis Joplin and Jimmi Hendrix getting it on beside the hotel pool. Jimmi asked him "are you a Jew" and he said yes so Jimmi told him to be someone's manager. HAHAHAH
They give the history of how he promoted Alice - making him everything that a parent would hate - hence their children would love. Manipulating everything - fascinating.
Highly recommend.

April 24, 2015 @ 9:09 AM

Lynne

I don't think Edwin Encarnacion gets enough credit. Love the guy!

April 24, 2015 @ 9:29 AM

Lynne

@GUNter
The Shep Gordon doc is definitely a must-watch. That was my era....
Kudos to Mike Myers!

April 24, 2015 @ 9:31 AM

Cell Block

If you want to see (a visual diagram) what your Canadian Charters of Rights and Freedoms will look like. Or more precisely how it will be emaciated after Bill C51. We are on the precipice of a police state. I realize this isn't as important as The Orioles.
http://lautens.blogspot.ca/2015/04/our-disappearing-charter-of-rights-and.html

April 24, 2015 @ 10:14 AM

Anon&on

@Stan
Canadaland
Jesse brown's media criticism podcast is entertaining, informative, and a
real head-shaker sometimes.

The Sniffer is a short non-CBC quasi extension of the ideas covered on the cbc radio/podcast Spark.

April 24, 2015 @ 10:31 AM

Argie

Another example of a moronic decision by a judge: Granting bail to Omar Khadr. Lets see how that goes.

April 24, 2015 @ 11:06 AM

Cheryl

Well, my Orioles lost again last night. It's absolutely terrible. They lost and got swept. They did have a comeback, but the Jays scored seven fricken runs at the beginning of the game. This losing has to stop. It really does. Anyway, Diamondbacks didn't play. Royals and Angels both won which helps my pool and Cardinals beat Nationals which would have been a win either way. Anyway, Habs will win tonight. There is just no way I will win that pool. Ottawa tried to make it a series, but they won't. Habs are too good. They just had a bad game the other day. Habs are winning the cup.

April 24, 2015 @ 11:14 AM

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@Cheryl

What do you think of my idea? Drop the Orioles, adopt the Blue Jays and you can save the MLB subscription fee and listen to every game on terrestrial radio for free.

April 24, 2015 @ 11:16 AM

Jack Layton

NDP is leading the election polls in Alberta at 38%

April 24, 2015 @ 1:03 PM

McNulty

Because the polls in Alberta have never been wrong.

April 24, 2015 @ 1:47 PM

Al The Royal Pain

Here's a topic for the hivemind. I used Uber for the first time a couple of weeks ago and I've got to say, I was extremely impressed. I may never take a cab again.

I felt the same way when I used AirBnB for the first time last year on a trip to Lisbon. I will never stay in a hotel room again.

When this internet thing started 20 years ago, I never would have imagined the impact it would have on the way we did business. I can't wait to see what the next 20 years will bring.

April 24, 2015 @ 1:48 PM

Al The Royal Pain

...I'll also never rent another DVD again, buy another music CD again (although I may buy a vinyl record or two)...and I'll definitely never EVER pay for porn again. ;P

April 24, 2015 @ 1:53 PM

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@Al The Royal Pain

I used AirBnB exclusively when visiting Italy a couple of years ago. No more hotels for me!

And David Marsden of all people showed me Uber and I fell in love with it.

My mind is still blown away by the fact I can broadcast "radio" programs from my basement. It's like Pump Up The Volume!

April 24, 2015 @ 1:53 PM

Al The Royal Pain

@Toronto Mike

Other than sports, I barely listen to terrestrial radio anymore (podcasts are my radio) and I'm pretty close to cutting the cable/satellite at home as well. I just need a little more time to play with Kodi/XBMC to find a reliable source to stream my live sports and I can kiss Bell and Rogers good-bye.

P.S. Keep up the great work on the podcast!

April 24, 2015 @ 2:02 PM

Ben Vidal

@Al: Where did you stay in Lisbon. Im in spain in a week and taking three days in Lisbon. I have yet to book accommodation.

April 24, 2015 @ 2:10 PM

Irv

@McNulty

Re: Alberta polls. If you're referring to the last election where the Wildrose was in the lead & then the PC's won, well that's completely different. The polls WERE right. Wildrose was in the lead. What happened was that one of their guys said gays belong in a "lake of fire". Another, whose riding was primarily East Indian, made some claim about how "white" was a better choice. Then Danielle Smith did nothing. The result was fast and furious. The "Progressive" Conservatives went back to the fold. And the Liberal/NDP vote moved to PC.

This time around it's very different. Jim Prentice is seen as arrogant (to say the least). The PC's passed an election law & the next election wasn't due for a couple years. They turned around and broke their own law..then calling an election figuring they'd sweep it up again. Then Prentice passed a budget where all Albertans were required to cut back..EXCEPT the major oil companies. Then shit hit the fan and BOY it hit the fan.

And the Alberta NDP isn't really left wing at all. Their leader, Rachel Notley, is a real fire cracker & not cut from the usual "workers of the world unite" left wing stuff. She's PRO oil sands only she says it's in the industries best interests to clean up their act. When pressed about potential corporate tax increases she said that we all had to pay and that included corporations. She then reminded the interviewer that the resources of Alberta belonged to the people that live there, not foreign oil companies.

I find her intriguing because she has many shades of Peter Lougheed in her. If you don't know who that is, he's the father of modern Alberta. He took tax dollars to kick start the oil sands. His name is on hospitals, arena's, roads, foundations, etc. He raised royalties from 17% to 40% back in the day saying just what Notley said. The oil belongs to people in Alberta. Very smart woman. I admit I'm stunned at this but I can see why.

Tell ya, if she ever runs in Ottawa she would fucking WIPE out the Liberals. Jack Layton ain't got nothing on her. And ya know what, she just might win or come damn close.

The PC party is dead.

April 24, 2015 @ 2:17 PM

Al The Royal Pain

@Ben Vidal

We got this amazing condo right in the heart of Lisbon on one of the main pedestrian streets full of cafes and restaurants. it had 3 bedrooms, it was clean and professionally designed and for 3 nights the total cost was cheaper than if we had to stay one night in a hotel that wasn't nearly as centrally located. We booked well in advance though so we had a lot to choose from.

Here is the link to the one we stayed in:

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/991682?guests=4&s=-gDo

April 24, 2015 @ 2:21 PM

McNulty

Ok, Irv.

You don't always know everything.

The day before the election Forum Research had the WildRose party winning. Two days before they had the WildRose party winning.

On April 21, 2012 Angus Reid had the WildRose party winning.

So the polls were wrong.

April 24, 2015 @ 3:04 PM

Irv

@McNulty

And local polling showed a sudden change & had the PC's on the comeback just days before the election. The PARTIES local polling definitely showed it (golly, did I have access to that????) The polls for most of that election were right & the Wildrose Party would have won it. The "lake of fire" comment came shortly before the election. Again, the progressive side of the Conservatives shifted back home & the urban "left" vote push their support behind Redford because that devil was better than the other devil.

Polling isn't an exact science & never has been. It's akin to radio ratings. You don't look at the exact numbers, you look at the trends. Internal polling showed the PC''s on the comeback near the end. Even in major public polls there was Wildrose erosion.

My primary residence is in Vancouver (Haro Street, stop on by). I have a rental unit in Calgary because it's cheaper than a hotel when I'm in YYC. So I spend some time in Calgary & having lived in the city for nearly 20 years of my life I have a "feel" for it. Change is coming. And change is good. Those polls are pretty accurate.

BTW, if anyone is interested in my Calgary apartment, as of May 1st I wont' be needing it anymore. Location: Beltline. Rent: $1821.00 a month + power + parking. No ensuite Washer/Dryer. No hardwood but the balcony is huge. Includes a BBQ & a rack of HP DL380 Gen8's, (servers) and a CISCO 861w router. Free. I took a job working with a police service (not in Calgary). Oh, and there are 4 summer tires for a Toyota you get too. I'm not hauling them across the mountains.

April 24, 2015 @ 3:54 PM

Argie

@Al
I actually rented a DVD a few weeks ago. The file we downloaded from the interweb was crap and we couldn't find a better copy so we went off to the nearby video store. He's an independent and sometimes gets movies a week before they're released.

April 24, 2015 @ 4:16 PM

McNulty

Sigh.

Irv always has to be right.

The published polls said the Wildrose would win. They did not win. Therefore those polls were wrong.
My comment is therefore correct. The polls in Alberta got it wrong.

And you can talk all you want about insider information because you're so cool and "in the know" all you want. But it doesn't change the fact that the polls were wrong.

April 24, 2015 @ 5:18 PM

dale

I Have a REAL Dilemma tonight. What do I watch on TV.

Habs & Sens
Raps & Wizards
Jays & Rays
Pens & Rangers
or
Jenner & Sawyer on 20/20

Either way it will be a COMING OUT decision - LOL

April 24, 2015 @ 5:38 PM

Glen

@Stan


I prefer listening to Canadian podcasts as well. I like hearing my country reflected back to me.

2 podcasts that I enjoy are:

Stop Podcast Yourself . It's a comedy podcast hosted by 2 guys from Vancouver who interview touring stand-up comedians performing on the West Coast. The podcast is silly, irreverent, and makes me laugh. If you want in-depth political discussion this isn't it.

http://maximumfun.org/shows/stop-podcasting-yourself


Tip Tap Tip. It's a podcast hosted by a Calgary couple who discuss everything and anything under the sun. The show is alot of fun.

http://tiptaptip.com/


Both podcasts come out on a weekly (ish) basis and can be found on iTunes.


April 24, 2015 @ 6:14 PM

Irv

Wow, I was "cool and in the know" was I? LOL. Did it ever occur to you I might have been involved in a professional capacity? #duh.

As for polls being right or wrong. They are not exact. They cannot be exact. Polling is used not so much for a moment in time measurement, but to study the "trending". The polls initially showed WR surging (and they did). In the final week polls showed the WR party declining at the hands of the PC's. Therefore, the polls, created to analyze the direction support was trending were correct. Moments in time are mostly meaningless slick.

PS. Yeah, I did work for politicians before. Not long ago I consulted with one for personal security, both physically & technically. I see lots of interesting things.

Did you require my services?

April 24, 2015 @ 6:15 PM

Guy

Don't you hate pants?

April 24, 2015 @ 6:58 PM

James Edgar

@Guy yes. Except when riding my motorcycle. they are pretty important then.

Airbnb is awesome it's what we used in Italy for our honeymoon in October. Unless you want to rent something in Ottawa in June apparently. Greedy bastards up there :(

I had a question for the hivemind as it were but i forgot dammit !

Great thing happened earlier My 10 year old stepdaughter was humming the riff from Smoke on the Water. so I AM having a good influence on her! last week it some Jimi hendrix :)

April 24, 2015 @ 7:16 PM

FWIW

I find Irv's posts to be very insightful.

April 24, 2015 @ 8:24 PM

argie

Two things I'm sure of: Babcock will be coaching the leafs next season and Bruce Jenner is not right.

April 24, 2015 @ 9:59 PM

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Important context to Argie's views on on Bruce Jenner is the fact he's very religious. That's key.

April 24, 2015 @ 10:03 PM

argie

@mike
That's besides the point. Jenner has a lot of issues and hopefully he gets the help he needs.

April 24, 2015 @ 10:35 PM

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@Argie

That is the point. Most irrational and hateful judgement comes from people hiding behind religious fervour.

In regards to Jenner, I think she's very brave.

April 24, 2015 @ 10:39 PM

argie

@Mike
Nothing to hate or judge here, just sympathy.

April 24, 2015 @ 10:42 PM

dale

By my own choosing I watched Sawyer & Jenner a heartfelt story for a person who decided to make a choice in his 60's living the life behind a curtain for all his life. As a religious person Jenner made a statement about life & good for him/her.

Jenner hit a home run today.

Everyone has to live their life to the best they can & want to be.

April 24, 2015 @ 11:13 PM

Speysidephil

Personally I think Bruce has a mental problem. His friends? Are enabling him.
This is not normal !
Bring it on.

April 24, 2015 @ 11:19 PM

Speysidephil

Personally I think Bruce has a mental problem. His friends? Are enabling him.
This is not normal !
Bring it on.

April 24, 2015 @ 11:22 PM

dale

What is normal?

Perception of normality is different with everyone & think their life is "normal".

A wife, 2 kids, a pet, a house with a white picket fence is "normal" - HOWEVER IT IS WHAT GOES INSIDE THIS HOUSE THAT MAY NOT BE NORMAL.

April 24, 2015 @ 11:42 PM

Irv

I'll miss you Argie !. And just for you slick.

April 24, 2015 @ 11:59 PM


***

For ISIS #Anonymous

April 25, 2015 @ 12:11 AM

Irv

Argie, I know how you feel about ISIS, so I added your name to the Anonymous mailing list.

April 25, 2015 @ 12:14 AM

Irv

To the mod:

things are not always what they appear. Sometimes the closest people in life are enemies.

For you. #tchau.


April 25, 2015 @ 12:30 AM

Cheryl

The thing is with the subscription, I want a choice. If I drop the Orioles, I don't get Diamondbacks either. As I said, the subscription doesn't cost that much and if I got the video as well, it would cost more and then going to games would cost something per game. I like my internet radio. Well, Orioles did lose again. No good. Diamondbacks lost as well. I got a few wins in my pool though with wins by the Cardinals and Angels. Nationals lost. Royals game got suspended probably because of rain and it was tied at 2. My Habs lost. Oh well, they will win tomorrow. I'm not the first one to drop out of the playoff pool. I'll probably be next though. Ottawa was just making it a series. They're not going to win. Habs in six.

April 25, 2015 @ 7:55 AM

Rick C in Oakville

@ Al, nice playlist, great job on the Black Keys guitar riff!

April 25, 2015 @ 7:56 AM

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@Speysidephil

Archaic mindsets like yours are why she waited until she was in her 60s to be herself.

April 25, 2015 @ 8:01 AM

4x4 Time

Thanks for the TV show suggestions...
I heard Ms. Notley speak on TV when I was in Calgary in March, and I agree with Irv, she was impressive in her ideas and thinking.

April 25, 2015 @ 8:24 AM

J9

Not to make light of the current situation in Baltimore, but anyone else picturing the cast from The Wire out on the streets there? Especially Herc and Carver from the earlier seasons.

April 25, 2015 @ 8:42 AM


GUNTer

stories like Bruce J's break my heart. im so happy for him that he has the ability to move forward living a life more in line with what he should always have been living.
maybe in a 100, 200 years this kinda thing will just not be making the news.

what the fuck is 'normal' anyway. im a girl married to a man. we have a dog. is that fucking normal? whose to say????

this shit bugs me. live and let live.

April 25, 2015 @ 11:18 AM

Al The Royal Pain

@Rick C in Oakville

Thanks!

April 25, 2015 @ 12:11 PM

DUTCH

So what happened to Hebsy, he get into a dustup with Bubba? That Eric Gage is just creepy.

April 25, 2015 @ 12:37 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

I don't know exactly what happened to Hebsy, but I did ready out to him and learned he's "fine."

April 25, 2015 @ 7:50 PM


ambrosia delite

letter to the editor I did not write.


It bothers me that a government can force a law on its people when the majority of the people oppose it. How much has the government marketed this bill to the public? We know what the media tells us. I am yet to know of someone in my walk of life that agrees with this bill. Nobody likes it. How does a PM go on TV lying in interviews saying Canadian's want this. Is Harper above the law? Why doesn't the media have polls etc about C-51? Politically fed media? Sorry Mr. Harper but taking a strategic poll in some area of the country does not represent true Canadian views. Manipulating data is a crime isn't it? But lying to a country is just shameful. To me Harper is scary and getting scarier the longer he is in power. I am in despair to see what my kids futures will be. I don't want to be an extension of the USA either. I want a true, strong and free Canada.

Canadians deserve better and I hope Canadians are smart enough to vote Harper out. I liked this article and I reject this bill wholeheartedly.

April 26, 2015 @ 7:45 AM

Cheryl

Orioles won. It's about time. They won it in extra innings. David Lough hit a walk off home run to win it in 10 innings. My Diamondbacks blew it thow again. Another loss. Elsewhere in my pool, Royals got rained out so they didn't play. Cardinals and Angels also won, but Nationals lost. I got three wins and two losses in my pool. My Nets also won. It's going to be Nets in six. They'll come back. Habs will win tonight. I told you they wanted to make it a series so the Habs were nice and let Ottawa beat them a couple times, but by tonight I'll be out of the playoff pool. One guy is already out as he had the Pens. If I didn't get sucked into taking Ottawa, I would still be there because the Habs are going to win the cup.

April 26, 2015 @ 8:03 AM

andrew

So proud to be a Torontian.

Laffs, FC, Argos, Jays & now Raps.
All teams are losers fortunately Toronto people aren't.

Go Flames Go

April 26, 2015 @ 8:05 PM

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@andrew

I'm rooting for the Ducks.

April 26, 2015 @ 8:07 PM

Clem

Fortunately, Connor McDavid will not have to suffer the fate of playing for the laffs.

April 26, 2015 @ 8:21 PM

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@Clem

As an Oiler, he might wish he was a Leaf.

April 26, 2015 @ 8:22 PM

Clem

@Toronto Mike....I can't think of one NHL player that would prefer to be a leaf. Mats Sundin didn't even want to end his career here.

April 26, 2015 @ 8:29 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Clem

Over Edmonton? The vast majority of NHLers would rather play in Toronto than Edmonton, trust me.

April 26, 2015 @ 8:32 PM

Clem

@Toronto Mike; I highly doubt that. Can you even recall when an impact player was signed in Toronto? Correct me if I am wrong, but the Leafs have full access to free agents every summer and the best they come up with every year is a 3 or 4th line player.

April 26, 2015 @ 8:35 PM

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@Clem

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying players want to play for the Leafs, I'm merely saying players would rather play for the Leafs than the Oilers. Of this I am certain!

April 26, 2015 @ 8:37 PM

Clem

Mike, I neither an Oilers or a Leaf fan, but the Oilers signings over the years have far surpassed the Leafs free agent signings. When the poster boy is David Clarkson, it is clear that Toronto is not a destination for real NHL talent. Must I mention Jeff Finger as well?

April 26, 2015 @ 8:44 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Clem

Give me an example. What free agents are choosing Edmonton?

April 26, 2015 @ 8:48 PM

Clem

Justin Schultz and Andrew Ference would both be in the top 3 defencemen in Toronto. I didn't see their agents banging on Torontos door.

April 26, 2015 @ 8:53 PM

Irv

People would sooner play on the Leafs than the Oilers? Show me some evidence. Edmonton is "hockeytown" and the fans are loyal & they're patient. And they don't possess the arrogance of Leaf fans who start planning the parade after winning two games in a row. Further, the Oilers have nurtured & produced some great players even of late. The Leafs? LOL.

PS. I see Stajan played a big part of Calgary winning last night. Golly, remember when trading him for the pylon, err Phaneuf was "great". I believe it was a 7 mi/year salary for a 1 mil/year salary. *LOL*.

Calgary deserves it. They've accomplished a great deal with a roster that's mostly unknown. They show up, work hard & actually want to win. Unlike the Leafs.

April 26, 2015 @ 8:57 PM

Jason from Sudbury

Habs win and Price gets a shutout! Just like I predicted, Habs take it in 6 games.

April 26, 2015 @ 8:57 PM

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@Clem

You're going to have to do better than that. At least Clarkson was, by all analyst's accounts, the top free agent available when he signed here.

April 26, 2015 @ 9:01 PM

Clem

Calgary is a prime example of what a team needs to do to succeed. Sadly Toronto has a history of building a team that cannot win. For decades, we have heard the Harold Ballard issue, then the Ontario Teachers Pension plan issue.
The truth is that Toronto does not attract quality talent the odd time that they had a decent chance to draft a quality player, they rush the talent to the NHL only to trade them off quietly within a few years.

April 26, 2015 @ 9:03 PM

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@Clem

The bigger problem, IMHO, is our refusal (until now) to do a proper rebuild. Burke wouldn't torch the earth because he knew that would take 5 years. We've never blown it up to do a proper rebuild which is why we kept finishing between playoffs and draft lottery.

Hopefully, in five years, we have a competitive hockey team we can be proud of. It's going to take that long, but it's our only hope.

April 26, 2015 @ 9:06 PM

Clem

@Toronto Mike

You really have consumed the kool aid on this one. The off set your argument, I will use the Montreal Canadiens, The Los Angeles Kings and the Detroit Red Wings as prime examples of teams that have never had a lottery pick and have built themselves into perennial playoff contenders. I also must remind you that the Leafs could have retained the 2nd overall draft pick, but traded it away to Boston for the wonderful Phil Kessel.

April 26, 2015 @ 9:12 PM

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@Clem

I said Burke's plan was flawed. He traded away the draft picks because he felt we were close enough we didn't need to do a proper rebuild. He was wrong.

I've sipped no kool aid. I think we need to start from scratch here, draft well and develop our young talent. This formula worked well for Chicago, Pittsburgh, Montreal, etc.

April 26, 2015 @ 9:15 PM

Clem

@Toronto Mike

The Leafs expectations have been historically low. In most circles they are considered sad sacks. It was not just Burke, but every other GM they have had since the NHL expanded and the leafs could not sign players as 13 yr olds eg Tim Horton and George Armstrong. I challenge you to name just one home grown talent that the leafs have developed since 1967 that could be even a borderline HOF candidate.
The Leafs are comparable to the Chicago Cubs, but at least once in a generation, the Cubs give their fans real hope.

April 26, 2015 @ 9:21 PM

dale

@Mike

You're grasping at straws. Edmonton has been better at signings than Toronto. Nonis took a "chance" on Clarkson & LOST, but won when he got rid of him at trade deadline.

Shanny has to make his big bucks now going into the draft - No GM or coach.
I was a Rep coach many years ago, can I apply Brendon. LOL

April 26, 2015 @ 9:22 PM

Speysidephil

Burkes Flames are in the Playoffs and looking to go further.
Sure looks good on Burkie.
Have to agree with Irv, Edmonton is much more attractive than playing for the Leafs.

April 26, 2015 @ 9:25 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

I think you're all misinterpreting my two arguments.

1. I believe most NHL players would rather play in Toronto over Edmonton. I never suggested the Clarkson signing was a good move for the Leafs, I merely stated that the best available free agent chose to play in Toronto.

2. I believe our best bet at actually winning a Stanley Cup is to torch this shamble of a team to the ground and rebuild. There may be some useful parts, like Morgan Rielly, but we'll need to draft well and develop talent if we ever want to be competitive again.

April 26, 2015 @ 9:26 PM

dale

@Mike
Who other than Clarkson as a free agent have the leafs signed in the last few years - Yea Winnick, Bolland, Santorelli & where are they now - gone. Great signings for less than 1/2 season. No big namers.

If you believe best bet is to rebuild from ground Zero - I will be 6 feet under before this happens a Cup.
At least I saw 67 Leafs & will treasure that memory.

April 26, 2015 @ 9:50 PM

Argie

No one of note wants to play in Toronto or Edmonton. Even Shanny (a Toronto native) lives in the US. Sad really.

April 26, 2015 @ 9:53 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Argie

Agreed, but if a player had to choose...

April 26, 2015 @ 9:56 PM

Irv

You can blame whoever you want for the failure of the Leafs, but they've mostly been failures for the past half century. In the end the owners make the choices of who to hire as managers & coaches (who in turn sign players).

Edmonton nurtures it's rookies. It can't afford to keep them when they become great players but the fans recognize that. They appreciate their hockey team just like Winnipeg does. Calgary does too. We're in Calgary all weekend and my rental is a few blocks from the "Red Mile". By 5 PM there was 100 meter long lines out front of every pub on the Red Mile. My wife and I were watching a movie Saturday and we could tell every time the Flames scored. Suddenly you'd hear the entire neighborhood cheering, cars honking and people shouting. It was so loud that I couldn't hear what was on the TV.

Sorry Mike, but Calgary deserves it's win. The Flames were a no name team at the start of the season & nothing was expected from them. They have over achieved & come with a coach that says it as it is. When they suck, he says so. When they win he gives them the thumbs up for their hard work as a team. As hockey should be.

And as for the Habs & the Sens. Well the Habs deserve their respect because all in all they're a solid team. And the Sens? Well when Ottawa signed back into the NHL, they sucked. And Leaf fans ridiculed them endlessly. And here we are in 2015 where the Sens make the playoffs. And Toronto doesn't. Guess who the real losers are.

If I was a hockey player and I had to choose between Edmonton and Toronto, I'd take Edmonton. At least you know they "might" have a chance at the playoffs. Toronto, no way.

April 26, 2015 @ 10:29 PM

Irv

Oh and further....

The whole "players would choose Toronto over Edmonton" reeks of a certain type of arrogance you'd sometimes find in Toronto. And too often it comes from people who have spent most of their life living in the same city. It's the same as that 'Murica rules" mentality you'd get from some 'Murican.

April 26, 2015 @ 10:51 PM

Clem

It appears that MLSE has created an acceptable losing culture. The Raptors are the latest team to disappoint us.

@Toronto Mike

I think Irv may have hit the nail on the head with his Murican rules analogy.

April 27, 2015 @ 5:42 AM

Cheryl

Yes, the Habs won. That was close, but Carey Price kept them in the game. Now three more rounds to go and they will win the cup. The only bad thing is I am now out of the pool. If I could have the Habs, I would still be there, but someone had already picked them and I was stuck withi Ottawa. Oh well, that pool is history. The Habs will win the cup. I just wish I would win the money. Big win for my Orioles. They won 18 to 7. That's great so they are heating up again. My Diamondbacks lost though. Elsewhere in my pool, Royals lost the suspended game and the full game. Also Cardinals, Nationals and Angels all lost. The only good thing was the Orioles win. I'm not really doing well in my pool. One guy has the Yankees, Mets, Tigers, Pirates, Athletics and Giants and he is ahead of me by quite a bit I think.

April 27, 2015 @ 6:21 AM

Cheryl

Okay. I just talked to the guy who has the Habs. He shocked me. He said he is no longer interested in the pool. He dropped out and he says I am welcome to have the Habs if I still want the Habs and I said of course I do so I'm not knocked out after all. Good. I'm going to win it now, win the money. I get $100.00 because the Habs will win the cup.

April 27, 2015 @ 8:00 AM

Argie

@Irv
Unfortunately for you"Murica" DOES rule. Even Obama couldn't eff that up.

April 27, 2015 @ 8:23 AM

Elba

Last night I watched an amazing yet sad documentary on the CBC's Passionate Eye called 65_redroses. I had followed her journey online and knew that she had passed away. What I didn't know was that the other two women who were also part of this doc passed away too.

@Mike, I mention this because I recall that you wrote about her blog here. I then realized that I have been following your blog (off and on) for at least five years. Wow!

Who else here are long-time posters?

April 27, 2015 @ 10:03 AM


Roger

We should all rally behind the Montreal Canadiens as they represent the best opportunity since 1993 to bring the cup back home to Canada.

April 27, 2015 @ 11:00 AM


Roger

Mike;

Why not? A championship of this calibre returning to Canada, will unit the country in a way that only the Olympics can provide,

You are a patriotic Canadian , are you not?

April 27, 2015 @ 11:06 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Roger

Yes, I'm a patriotic Canadian. I love rooting for Canada at the Olympics, but I only root for one Canadian-based NHL team.

In fact, I root against all other Canadian teams, because I'd like my Leafs to be the next Canadian-based NHL teams to win the cup. I hope the Habs are swept in four next round.

April 27, 2015 @ 11:08 AM

Roger

If the Leafs are the next team from Canada to win a Cup, none of us will be alive to witness the event.

As a positive person, and one that loves a united country, I for one am going to cheer on Canada's team.

Other than home town bias, what have the leafs ever given you other than misery and grey hair?

April 27, 2015 @ 11:12 AM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Roger

No NHL team will unite this country. Leafs and Habs fans typically hate each other, same with Oilers and Flames, and Leafs and Sens fans hate each other, too. And most of us hate the Canucks. The least hated team in Canada might be the Jets, but I doubt they're beloved by the western team's fans...

My point is, most people in this city are rooting against the Habs. I sure am.

April 27, 2015 @ 11:20 AM

Eekan Boo

Go Flames.

April 27, 2015 @ 11:57 AM

Roger

Mike, you should possibly take another poll. My informal results are showing a support that is unparallelled for Montreal. Typically, when Montreal plays in any other Canadian rink, including Toronto, there are just as many habs fans in the building as the home club.

April 27, 2015 @ 12:05 PM

Mel Preston

Winning solves everything. No one wants to play for the Leafs right now because they suck. Who wants all the pressure of this market when you are constantly losing? When they had a decent team in the early 90's and 2000's - players wanted to come here - either by waiving their no trade clauses or singing here : Joe Niewendyke, Gary Roberts, Brian Leech, Alex Mogilny, Cujo, Ed Belfour, Ron Francis etc .

And give me a break about the Habs. They had the 3rd overall pick 3 years ago in Galchenyuk. Habs have had the good fortune of having great goaltenders. Jacques Plante, Ken Dryden, Patrick Roy and now Carey Price. Generational goaltenders. Ottawa completely dominated yesterdays game - Price was the difference. If you swapped Edmonton and Montreal's goaltenders this season, Edmonton is in the playoffs and Habs are out. Look at all the 1 goal, OT and shootout games they won.

I'm cheering for all the underdogs. It makes Nashville's pick that Leafs own better. So go Wings, Islanders, Wild and Flames!

April 27, 2015 @ 12:06 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Roger

Those are Montreal ex-pats, mostly. Later today I'll write a new entry asking whether readers are rooting for Montreal. I think you'll find most are rooting for ABM: Anyone but Montreal.

April 27, 2015 @ 12:07 PM

Roger

Mel, the list of players that you provided (Joe Niewendyke, Gary Roberts, Brian Leech, Alex Mogilny, Cujo, Ed Belfour, Ron Francis) were all at the end of their careers and looking for a s final contract prior to retiring. The Leafs may have won a few games, but the crew you listed never made the Leafs serious contenders.
When the Canadiens drafted Price, the big talk in Toronto was that Justin Pogge was the second coming and that Carey Price was overrated. The facts are that Montreal has consistently placed their assets into scouting, where the Leafs have generationally sought out expensive players that were past their prime and hoped for the best.

Mike, as a fan that has attended several Montreal/Toronto matches, I would say that the majority of the Habs support comes from the likes of Mike Stafford than ex-pats.

April 27, 2015 @ 12:24 PM

update

60 Canadian Business Leaders Sign Letter Against Bill C-51
The Huffington Post Canada | By Daniel Tencer

Posted: 04/21/2015 4:34 pm EDT Updated: 04/21/2015 5:59 pm E

April 27, 2015 @ 12:25 PM

Roger

@Update

We have not been this safe since 1966. But all you gullible people who cower when you hear Harper political propaganda, be proud of Stephen Harper's new plan for his big-brother society.

April 27, 2015 @ 12:33 PM

Mel Preston

Agreed Roger - but my point was that players will come here if the team is competitive. And those teams from the early 90's and early 2000's won more than just a few games ...they made the conference finals a few times - that would have made them serious contenders. They could never find a winger to play with Sundin. Now they have a winger in Kessel but can't find a centre :(
Leafs just fired 18 scouts. The problem wasn't that they didn't invest in scouting ( that is one of the largest scouting staffs in the league) - the problem was that they were bad scouts.

April 27, 2015 @ 12:39 PM

Roger

@Mel;

Exactly my point. You can place a turd in a box and slap a guarantee on it, but at the end of the day it is still a turd.
The Leafs problems are exactly what they seem to be. Poor investment in players and management.
The Leafs are only existing today, because they have brain-washed minions like Mike. They know that if another team ever enters the market in the GTA, the leafs will finally start heading down the road of the business model that fails to work.

April 27, 2015 @ 12:45 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Roger

I've followed this team for as long as I can remember. They're my home team, and yes, I'm loyal to them. But I'm hardly a minion.

I stopped watching in February, I haven't paid for a Leafs ticket in over a decade, and I sure don't buy Leafs memorabilia when they're struggling.

So yes, I'm a fan, but I'm not brainwashed.

April 27, 2015 @ 12:50 PM

Mel Preston

Last year for fun I asked a rep at MLSE how long the waiting list was for Leafs season tickets. I was told 22 freakin' years!! This business model is almost bullet proof. How can a team that has sucked for so long still have a 22 year wait for season tickets??

It is an unbelievable brand really. Just a little success and fans will fill up Maple Leaf Square again and the city will be buzzing about the team.

A second team in the GTA might hurt the Sabres more than the Leafs I think. Over 30% of Sabres tickets are from southern Ontario.

April 27, 2015 @ 12:53 PM

Douglas

As far as this Toronto "over" Edmonton discussion goes, I agree with every word Irv has posted, especially his April 26, 2015 / 22:51 posting. Clem's right about Irv nailing it. The Oilers will accomplish more for years and years to come than the Leafs will. Part of me hopes that I'm wrong, but I just don't see Shanahan being able to change what is a losing culture with maximizing profit (I understand and appreciate that TML-MLSE is a business, as is any professional sports team).

My strongest disagreement to any point on this page goes to Roger's comment about Habs supporters on the road. Don't include the MTS Centre in Winnipeg on that one. It's fair comment that a lot of those Habs supporters are Montréal ex-pats, but their support of their former hometown team hasn't waned. Nearly all of my friends and clients who are no longer in the Toronto area are no longer Toronto fans. To quote one who now lives in Ottawa when asked about him dropping his from-childhood allegiance, "The Leafs have sucked for decades. Why wouldn't I stop supporting them?" Great question. Even for Torontonians.

April 27, 2015 @ 12:56 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Douglas

Of course Edmonton will accomplish more for years and years to come than the Leafs will. Isn't that a complete "duh" statement?

Who would argue the opposite? Edmonton's about to draft a generational superstar for goodness sake!

April 27, 2015 @ 12:57 PM

Roger

@Mike;

What have the Leafs ever done for you other than cause you pain and misery????

They certainly have never provided hope.

April 27, 2015 @ 12:59 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

@Roger

But that's sports, right?

I loved the lovable losers in the 80s and enjoyed 4 conference finals since then. I'll be watching again in October.

April 27, 2015 @ 1:19 PM

Speysidephil

I think all Leaf haters should be banned from this site.
Go Leafs Go!

April 27, 2015 @ 1:24 PM

Mel Preston

I'm with you Mike. I've had friends tell me I should root for a real team like the Bruins, Hawks or Wings. But I'm a loyal Leafs (Toronto) fan. Thats my home team. Yes they've sucked and for most of my life. But I can't just wake up one morning ( a la Cheryl) and start cheering for someone else. It would be empty. Even if I moved to another city in Canada, I'd still root for the Leafs. When they eventually win ( hopefully in my lifetime) - it will be epic. And I will enjoy it even more because I went through the rough times with them.

I'm excited for the off season. I'm excited about the rebuild. They have some good young pieces. Even if they still suck next year, at least we know they'll still have their draft picks and won't be trading them for Tom Curvers or Owen Nolan. And there'll be players here who give a sh!t.

April 27, 2015 @ 1:32 PM

Douglas

@Mike - I wasn't limiting the Oilers' accomplishments to just four years. If I could edit my post, I'd change it to years-decades.

@Speysidephil - I don't hate the Leafs. I just cannot and will not support them in any way, shape or form, joining the Toronto area masses who expect, want, and maybe even deserve, more from the local monopoly team, get regularly induced to be more hopeful from a spark or promise or two, only to be classically emotionally crushed year after year, decades-on.

"This time is different." A classic line of mislead, misinformed at least, investors for many, many years (I work in the personal investment and planning profession). Leafs fans keep hearing a version of that line annually. The line is working out just as well for Leafs fans as it is for those investors.

April 27, 2015 @ 1:36 PM

Irv

Honestly, the hate directed at the Leafs is often directed at the entire organization including the fans. I'm not a hockey fan & I mostly don't pay much attention. But it's not hard to understand why people dislike the Leafs & their fans so much.

This blog is a good example. Years back during the Stajan/Phaneuf trade, it was viewed as entirely positive. I was living in Calgary at the time AND paid some attention to hockey. The typical Flames fan was happy to see Phaneuf traded because we KNEW the guy was an overpaid bum. But on here he was the "second coming of Christ". Years later now he's "the pylon". But you'll see no admittance to being wrong on this forum or anywhere else. And Phaneuf is just one example. How many "lousy" players or coaches are booted from the Leafs only to find success elsewhere? And if you DARE insult the Leafs, the thin skinned fans come racing to their defense.

The Leafs are failures because of their fans. Their fans blindly show up & fill the coffers of the business. There is no motivation to change. It's like eating at the same restaurant every Friday night but you hate the food..but you still show up anyway. As I write this in Alberta, I was thinking to myself. My god, the "Stanley Cup drought" in Toronto has been around longer than the Alberta PC's. And SHIT, even of the old grizzled rednecks of the past want to turf them out LOL.

April 27, 2015 @ 2:26 PM

Mel Preston

The hate for Pha9 is unwarranted. Is he overpaid - of course. But then almost everyone is. Boychuk just signed a 6 yr, $6M per year contract. Pha9 got what he would have on the open market. In fact, he probably would have gotten more. Look who's interested in him - Detroit, Dallas and Boston plus a few others. He has value - the problem is that in TO he's played with 3rd and 4th pairing guys and is on the ice against the opponents best players. He is miscast here. He is a very good #3 defenseman and will go somewhere else and play well.

That trade was still a good trade for the Leafs. Stajan has played 2 good games. His stats are much worse than Bozak's in almost every season. But I'm pulling for him. Hope he has a great playoff and rest of a career. He lost a child this year. How can you not pull for him.

April 27, 2015 @ 2:47 PM

update

@ Roger
Uh....the 60 business leaders did not write a letter for Bill C51... so how is reposting this information about the tideswell AGAINST Bill C51 tantamount to 'cowering?'

April 27, 2015 @ 3:09 PM

Roger

@Mike

Mike, I think you have really ran off course on my original comment. The statement was only to imply that we as Canadians should throw our support behind the best chance that Canada has to bring the Cup back home.
Most fans in Canada are quite aware that the cup has not been in Canada since 1993. Yes it was The Montreal Canadiens that last hoist did bring Canada that glory. When people reference the drought since 1993, they are referencing Canada, not just one team.
My point was that the Cup unites Canada like no other sporting triumph, why not show some patriotic spirit and cheer for the team that represents the country best this year.
Its okay Mike as you can still continue to support your Leafs.

April 27, 2015 @ 3:31 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

I'd love to see the Habs swept in round two.

April 27, 2015 @ 3:34 PM

Roger

@Update

I don't see any executives from the top 500 Canadian companies (by value). Are we to assume such firms already have some waiver from the government?

The Canadian tech sector majors should at least participate in this letter. But nothing from Shaw, Bell, Rogers, BCE? Oh, I forgot, those are the government too.

April 27, 2015 @ 3:36 PM

Roger

@Mike

You meant to say you would like to see the Habs sweep round 2.

Corrected that for you.

April 27, 2015 @ 3:39 PM

update.

@ Roger,
We are not in disagreement.

April 27, 2015 @ 4:01 PM

Jody Thornton

@Irv:

I hadn't listened yet, but wasn't that first track on Breaking Bad about three years ago? Good song if it's what I'm thinking of.

April 27, 2015 @ 4:24 PM

Jody Thornton

OK speakers are on now. Yes it was. I love that song (1977 I mean)

April 27, 2015 @ 4:25 PM

James Edgar

Wow a little heat on in here eh?

Ok My 2 cents.

I'm a leaf fan but like Mike i'm not directly giving them a penny unless they provide a winning team.
Unlike Mike I'll probably not give any money indirectly by watching them on tv either.
Also Unlike Mike I'm not hoping for a Habs collapse. I only dislike the habs if they are playing the Leafs :) Mind you I'm not that interested in them winning either. I'm definitely hoping the Flames go Deep i think their story is pretty interesting. Somebody said something about hard work and caring and that's my kind of team.

Last thing. STOP WITH THE MLSE JUST WANTS TO MAKE CASH BULLSHIT.
They are owned by Canada's two biggest telecoms. The Leafs measly profit of I'm not certain but my best guess as of this writing is about $70 Million is kind of a drop in the bucket for two companies whose combined profit is around $8 BILLION. Both will take a hit profit wise with the leafs sucking so bad people gave up watching in February (Or in my case October) .

however they would both profit handsomely if the leafs made into the playoffs and went deep the gates on Playoff games are pure profit and viewers in TO the countries largest market would be glued to their Televisions.

If they were half as greedy as people make them out to be they'd be pushing the players out on the ice at gunpoint to make them win.

Now if you want to argue that they are incompetent you'll get no argument from me. MLSE as a business is worth over a billion according to forbes . That's pretty good. If they had won even a couple of cups since 67 they'd be worth probably 3 or 4 Billion. So even their often praised business smarts are not.

April 27, 2015 @ 5:04 PM

andrew

I love hockey & baseball. I watch for the entertainment of the games. Of course & would like the Leafs & Jays to win, but realize both teams are terrible, I forgot the Raptors & TFC.

MLSE "we are making loads of $ & will try make our teams better next year". Next year never comes.

Habs & Flames - GO FOR IT.

April 27, 2015 @ 5:08 PM

update V2

Re: Cheryl's Orioles.

Viral post of the day. Baltimore Orioles COO John Angelos took to Twitter to defend ‪#‎FreddieGray‬ protests and writes a scathing critique of how elites shipped jobs overseas while a militarized police crushes our legal rights. SHARE if you support those who protest against police brutality!

Read his full response: http://usat.ly/1A65Q2G

April 27, 2015 @ 5:13 PM

GUNTer

@elba
oh that was such a good doc. I just did a search and sadly all the ladies in that doc have now died. the other two lived a few more years and each had a baby.

April 27, 2015 @ 7:03 PM

Roger

@Elba

The best documentary full length Canadian film would have to be "The Triumph of the Wall". The story in many ways mirrors the Toronto Mike story. The film breaks down the lives of two men that struggle to complete a documentary and a stone wall. This task was projected to take 8 weeks and ultimately lasted well over 10 years.

April 28, 2015 @ 6:50 AM

Irv

@Jody

Actually yes that song was in one of the later episodes. She crossed into the English mainstream years back even though she sings in Spanish. At one time I was fluent in Portuguese (Brazilian) so I could patch together what she was saying. I like some of the stuff.

The last song Geracao Coca Cola = Generation Coke. It's Brasilian & sung in Portuguese. The band, Legiao Urbana (Urban Legion) is "The Smiths" of Brasil. You don't need to speak to feel the song.

I'm a big fan of music from South America though I admit my language skills are fading. I keep meaning to get Rosetta Stone & keep up just I never find the time. Brasil does some incredibly good film as well.

April 28, 2015 @ 8:31 AM

Cheryl

Yes, do cheer for the Habs. They will win the cup. I will win the money. Jerk for dropping out of the pool, but that's okay. Nets made the series even. That's wonderful. Nets are the champions. Orioles didn't play last night. There are riots in Baltimore. It's awful. I have no idea when they will play again, but the Orioles may not play again all season by the way things are going. It's awful with these protests. I don't know what will happen and if the Ravens will be around this year either. My Diamondbacks lost again. Royals won and Cardinals and Nationals lost. Royals are consistent winners. I didn't think they would be that good, but they are so I'm thankful I have the Royals in my pool.

April 28, 2015 @ 10:12 AM

Eekan Boo

Bring back the Tuesday Open Mike.

April 28, 2015 @ 11:42 AM

Roger

The "Ghetto Culture", particularly the "Thug Life Culture", has become a monster which has grown out of the control of America's black communities. And it shows by how it is overwhelming and overruling the black people who wish to follow Martin Luther King Jr.'s example of non-violent protest in order to reach the hearts and the minds of others.

The Far Left, particularly Progressives, needs to stop coddling and making excuses for this culture. It is like pouring gasoline on a fire here. In fact, one wonders if they, deep down, want some kind of "racial revolution" which parallels historical Communist revolutions.

A line has been crossed here. It's time to rein in those responsible for the injuries which have been caused by this.

April 28, 2015 @ 11:55 AM

Anonymous

Yes the brutal police killings of young people, the unjust imprisonment for profit (a new type of slavery), the police killing pet dogs, the police breaking grandmothers' legs, the police tasering people in hospital beds, the grinding poverty of an unjust system, the endless cycle of racism, does cross the line.

And the few dozen thugs who act out in blind rage against this horror show need to listen to their elders and build constructive social movements.

April 28, 2015 @ 3:00 PM

also

Speaking of which, over 10,000 peaceful, multi-ethnic protestors marched yesterday in Baltimore because #BlackLivesMatter. Did these constructive efforts receive the same press?

April 28, 2015 @ 3:26 PM

Gump

As per Seinfeld, I cheer for the Toronto Maple Leafs jersey, not the players...

April 28, 2015 @ 4:22 PM

D'ble Stnd'rd

Three weeks ago Kentucky fans rioted, burned cars, and attacked police after losing a game. But don't worry, they
were mostly white so it barely made the news.

April 28, 2015 @ 6:18 PM

Anonymous

Did somebody men

April 28, 2015 @ 6:37 PM

Anonymous

Did somebody mention 'thugs?' The city of Baltimore has paid more than $5 million to settle police brutality cases in the last four years.

April 28, 2015 @ 6:38 PM

andrew

Disgusting happenings in Baltimore - the city that Cheryl Idolizes.

Cheryl you must be proud of your city & their teams!!

Curfew at 10PM tonight & watching CNN - a lot marching - EFF the curfew.

So sorry so SAD.

April 28, 2015 @ 7:14 PM

argie

@Roger
Agree 100%.

April 28, 2015 @ 7:18 PM

Anonymous

Vancouver fans burn and riot. White thug culture has crossed the line.

April 28, 2015 @ 10:05 PM

Cheryl

Okay. There is an Orioles game at 2:00 today, but no fans in the stadium. I can't wait. I wonder what this will be like, no cheering or anything. Anyway, so the Orioles are still around and this weekend they are in Tampa Bay. Anyway, my Diamondbacks won last night. That's great. Also Royals won, Nationals and Cardinals won. Angels lost though. Four wins and a loss is pretty good.

April 29, 2015 @ 10:59 AM

Jimbo

This 'Hunger Games' Star Has the Perfect Response to Baltimore Rioting Backlash

Sixteen-year-old actress Amandla Stenberg spoke about the double standard at the heart of many media outlets' outlets and public figures' depictions of the unrest: When white people riot, it's viewed as "a costly nuisance," but when people of color do so they are "diminishing the validity of their cause" and "need to be quelled" by militarized police forces.

"Don't condemn our anger," Stenberg tweeted Monday night, also rejecting this notion. "Don't denounce our pain as savage. What's savage is the cruel inhumanity and brutality of the police. Condemn that."

April 29, 2015 @ 2:27 PM

Toronto Mike Verified as the defacto Toronto Mike

I'd love to see the Habs swept in round two.

April 30, 2015 @ 7:55 AM

Argie

"Sixteen-year-old actress ..." Well, that may explain why she says such nonsense. She would be better off just listening to her inane music on her phone and stay off the keyboard.

April 30, 2015 @ 10:09 AM

16 Candles

"Don't condemn our anger," Stenberg tweeted Monday night, also rejecting this notion. "Don't denounce our pain as savage. What's savage is the cruel inhumanity and brutality of the police. Condemn that."

April 30, 2015 @ 11:08 AM

Cheryl

Well, what a day I had. I had computer problems galore. First my internet went down for a while. Primus hardly goes down so I can't really complain. Anyway, then I kept getting this error message and it took a help desk person about an hour to figure it out. Anyway, things are fixed for now. My Orioles won yesterday. That was a quiet game, no crowd cheering or anything. Orioles won and Chris Davis and Manny Machado hit homers. As for my pool, I only got one loss. Royals lost, but Diamondbacks, Cardinals,and nationals all won and Angels won as well. Yes, the Habs will win the next round. Get used to it because they're winning the cup. Carey Price is that good. It would be nice if Subban didn't try to hurt people for no reason though like hurting Mark Stone, but still ove the Habs. They're winning the cup.

April 30, 2015 @ 6:06 PM

Clem

It appears Cheryl has one up on Toronto Mike.

April 30, 2015 @ 8:38 PM

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