Super Bowl XLVII Open Mike

Published by Toronto Mike on February 1, 2013 @ 09:20 in Open Mike

super bowlThis weekend is Super Bowl XLVII. It's the 49ers and Ravens at the Mercedes-Benz Superdome in New Orleans, Louisiana. This Open Mike is all about the big game, or anything else that's on your mind.

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But I do want score predictions. Let's see if anyone nails it...

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194 Responses to "Super Bowl XLVII Open Mike"

Declan
February 1, 2013 / 09:39

49ers 40 - Ravens 10

Argie
February 1, 2013 / 09:43

I know by me posting this, it will to piss off the a lot of people but here goes anyway. In the past 40 years within the US, since Rove v Wade (which granted the right of women to abort their unborn baby), there have been over 55 million abortions.

Obviously some were due to concerns the doctor detected during pregnancy but most were simply the result of the mother and/or father not wanting to go through a pregnancy.

Regardless of whether you're pro choice or pro life that figure of 55 million should repulse you.

Jamie
February 1, 2013 / 09:44

Bal - 24 SF - 17

Pete McPhedran
February 1, 2013 / 09:46

I predict that once again, I will not watch the Super Bowl, not care who wins and not see nor care about the half time show.

#Aaaargoooooooooooooooooooooos

--Pete

Toronto Mike
February 1, 2013 / 09:50

@Pete McPhedran

Not fair. You can make that prediction come true. You have that power!

Toronto Mike
February 1, 2013 / 09:51

@Argie

Not to get too heavy, but the repulsion level is very much tied to wether you believe a first trimester fetus to be a peson, right?

Argie
February 1, 2013 / 09:54

Mike,

Not all of the 55 mil were from the 1st trimester. I admit, I dont have the breakdown of what stages the babies were aborted.

Toronto Mike
February 1, 2013 / 10:00

@Argie

My point is, your belief a 12 week fetus is a person makes the 55 million figure atrocious to you.

It would be like asking me how I feel about the murder of 55 million 6-week old children. I'd be horrified.

Argie
February 1, 2013 / 10:04

So Mike, I assume you're not horrified by the fact there have been 55 million abortions? OK, thanks.

Dave Williams
February 1, 2013 / 10:07

RIP Ed Koch. Even though he was a member of the Democratic Party, he did one great job as Mayor of NY.

Argie
February 1, 2013 / 10:14

Dave,

He did a great job promoting the city but it was scary city when he ran it. New Yorkers can thank Giuliani for cleaning up the mess that Koch and the dude that followed him left.

Ben Vidal
February 1, 2013 / 10:27

Has anyone seen the new Torontostar.com that isn't an improvement it's actually terrible.

@ Dave Williams: I don't understand what even though he was a member of the Democratic Party is supposed to mean?

@ Argie: It's all about perception Argie. I'm sure there were good reasons for many of the abortions and I'm sure there were poor reasons for the others. What about people who took the day after pill? Are those counted in there? does it really matter? I think when it comes to the world especially to the US they have much bigger fish to fry than the abortion debate. First fix your economy and infrastructure. fix your education system. Deal with gun violence. Deal with pollution and about 50 other things before you worry about abortions.

Blind Dave
February 1, 2013 / 10:28

Ravens 31, SF 27

I have no issue with abortion in the early stages. The world is over-populated as it is, and there are far too many unwanted children out there.

Another 55 million Americans, with the state that country is in? Not a pleasant thought.

Dave Williams
February 1, 2013 / 10:30

@argie; that number is horrific. If that number of people died of a certain disease, the world would be screaming epidemic.
A very sad figure.

Cheryl
February 1, 2013 / 10:37

Pro choice is pro choice. Let people have abortions. I have no problem with that. Children dying is not good, but if it's an unwanted pregnancy, a kid is a big responsibility and if you don't want that big responsibility, go for it.

Grocery Gateway screwed up again. They didn't have a couple things. I called Customer Service and complained. I get put on stupid hold forever and then someone comes on finally and tells me that I should call after I place my order as if that is going to help. I could call and get put on hold forever as well. I emailed the manager who told me that they do the best they can. Sure they do. Anyway, they promised me that there will always be stock in the new store when it opens. Well, guess what. there isn't. Grocery Gateway has poor customer service. Primus, ING Direct, and Westjet all have really good customer service. Grocery Gatewawy should go to them to learn about good customer service.

As for Superbowl, who cares. I don't as my Cardinals are out. My Habs play tomorrow and Sunday. I'm listening to my Habs. My favourite player finally signed. good to have him back, PK Subban. It's about time he signed. Hopefully he will score lots.

Argie
February 1, 2013 / 10:39

@Ben,

That 55 mil doesn't include the morning after pill. I don't know what the number is for that but that's not an abortion anyway.

Sure, there are many other issues plaguing the US but how is not the murder of 55 million unborn babies in 40 years not important?

@Blind Dave

The US and the western world are not reproducing at the rate to sustain itself. I would think those 55 million that you would rather see dead would actually help things. Oh yeah and the fact that its 55 million unborn human beings well, that's another reason too.

That's OK, be sad for that neighborhood dog that died last week but don't worry about the 55 million.

Dave Williams
February 1, 2013 / 10:42

@Cheryl, I agree that the Habs are Canada's Team, but The Super Bowl is an event regardless who is playing. The SB is an example to the world of American excess and wealth.

Dave Williams
February 1, 2013 / 10:44

@Argie, is there a number out there on Americans adopting children from foreign countries?

Jamie
February 1, 2013 / 10:51

@Ben The star mobile site is even worse. It used to be one of my go to site's on my Iphone but now it's just a mess.

519 Rob
February 1, 2013 / 10:57

Let's go with San Fran 31 Baltimore 20

Gary
February 1, 2013 / 11:04

I just went to the new Toronto Star site....it is awful.

Toronto Mike
February 1, 2013 / 11:08

Many moons ago, maybe 6-7 years ago, I interviewed for a gig at Torstar Digital that would put me in charge of the site redesign and have me act as a liaison between Torstar Digital and the old 1 Yonge Street corporate folks.

I took another job instead.

Btw, my prediction is Bal 24, SF 17.

Blind Dave
February 1, 2013 / 11:13

@Argie

While my heart does go out to victims of tragedy -- especially when children are involved, I don't consider abortion to be a tragedy. I respect your opinions, and do not take them personally in any way. We are just on opposite ends on this one.

As for dogs and cats, you nailed that one bang on. There was a story the other day of some mot**rf**k*r who left his dog outside all night, chained, in -45C wind. I would, without an ounce of sorrow or remorse, do the same thing to him to teach him a lesson.

Toronto Mike
February 1, 2013 / 11:19

@Argie

I agree with @Blind Dave on this one. I respect your belief that abortion is murder, but I disagree. In my heart and mind, that's not 55 million murders. We're just on opposite sides on this one.

Argie
February 1, 2013 / 11:22

Ravens 28
49ers 26

Glen
February 1, 2013 / 11:28

Next year will mark the 25th anniversary of Rogers Cnetre (Skydome). Yes, it's that old.


The reason why I mention this is they are talking about putting in real grass inside the dome. No more playing on green concrete.


Let's play ball!!!

Toronto Mike
February 1, 2013 / 11:39

@Glen

Real grass would be awesome at the stadium formerly known as SkyDome.

The Argos really need to move out of there anyway. There must be a better place for them to play. Anyone have any ideas?

Andrew
February 1, 2013 / 11:44

Putting grass in at the Rogers Centre will be a massive upgrade. There is no drainage on the field of play, anywhere. In fact, the old media media bulkheads were built into the concrete floor because they were never concerned about water.

And then you gotta talk about the lighting system to keep the grass alive when the roof is closed because the building isn't water proofed!

I'd love it though...

Cheers,
Andrew

Lorne
February 1, 2013 / 11:58

@Argie: You wouldn't happen to have the actual source of that study? I tried looking, and the only source for that number I can find are right-wing blogs, Right-To-Life "organizations", twitter posts, etc, etc.

There are some actual numbers on the one website they cite (without actually citing):

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

With that, that's the last I'll feed the troll.

Lorne
February 1, 2013 / 11:59

@Rosie: The prize pack for the milk giveaway from mytorontoscoop.com just arrived! Looking forward to trying out their chocolate milk.

It also came with a foam cow stress ball. =)

Thanks again!

Matt
February 1, 2013 / 12:05

I'm going 28-24 Niners.

Elba
February 1, 2013 / 12:28

SF - 35 Bal - 30

The new Star website completely underwhelmed me.

Corey
February 1, 2013 / 12:44

Ugh. I almost hate to weigh in on the abortion thing, because it's so contentious, and I've found myself to be so conflicted over it at various stages of my life. I've been on both sides, but over the past years, when I give it thought it comes back to this for me: The argument that a fetus isn't a human being baffles me. We know full well that if left undisturbed, or unless naturally aborted via miscarriage, that collection of cells is going to become a human being. There's no chance of it becoming a loaf of bread, or an orange - it's going to be a person. This is indisputable. Terminating a pregnancy therefore is, to my thinking, depriving a being of it's life. Secondly, for every 1 child available for adoption, there are something like forty couples on waiting lists. How many of those aborted pregnancies could have instead gone to people with the desire and means to raise a healthy child? What are we depriving ourselves of if you imagine what percentage of the 1,000,000 abortions that occurred in Canada over the past decade might have turned out to be exceptional contributors to our society? On this issue I can't help but imagine some future generations looking back at our history in disbelief.

Mississauga Phil
February 1, 2013 / 12:45

@ Argie - this is going to really surprise you, but I'm closer to your side of the fence on this one than not.

I am pro-choice in the sense that I think an abortion is a personal choice. However, I am pro life in the sense that I would never personally choose to be a part of one.

My wife got pregnant about 2 months into our relationship. Her mother's argument was that she didn't know me well enough to know if i'd stand by her and that a 22 year old raising a baby alone is not an easy thing. Her mother wanted her to seriously consider an abortion.

This broke my heart and I immediatly drove to her mothers house and explained that regardless of what happend between her and I, my child would want for nothing and I'd be the best father possible.

We are still together and have a healthy, happy 5 year old who is excelling at school (in SK...reads at a grade 3 level).

For all I know, my son will develop a cure for cancer, or invent faster than light travel...or he may not, either way I could not imagine my life without him....

But I still maintain that it is a personal choice...walk a mile in someone else's shoes before you judge.

Toronto Mike
February 1, 2013 / 13:23

This is why we call it pro-choice as opposed to pro-abortion. Nobody is pro-abortion. Good on Mississauga Phil for being there... that's awesome.

But I'll be damned if we're going to jump in a time machine and go back to telling a woman she has to give birth. It's her body and her choice. You don't have to agree with it, but you should defend the right.

Now who wants to debate the right to die or the legalization of pot?

Dave Williams
February 1, 2013 / 13:30

Now who wants to debate the right to die or the legalization of pot?

@Phil, your cue.

Sam in Pickering
February 1, 2013 / 13:30

49s 17 - Ravens 12

Toronto Mike
February 1, 2013 / 13:32

I like this Ed Koch quote:

"Listen, there's no question that some New Yorkers think I'm gay, and voted for me nevertheless. The vast majority don't care, and others don't think I am. And I don’t give a shit either way! What do I care? I'm 73 years old. I find it fascinating that people are interested in my sex life at age 73. It's rather complimentary! But as I say in my book, my answer to questions on this subject is simply Fuck off. There have to be some private matters left."

Victoria
February 1, 2013 / 13:39

SF guys 27, Baltimore guys 17

Victoria
February 1, 2013 / 13:40

And please don't let Argie and Dave take away our right to choose.

Dawn Keibals
February 1, 2013 / 13:42

San Francisco 30
Baltimore 20

Bet it !!

Mississauga Phil
February 1, 2013 / 13:43

@ Dave - I dropped the pot debate a long time ago.

You sir are the one who tried to use the death of 18 children as a platform to start it up again....

Mississauga Phil
February 1, 2013 / 13:44

@ Mike - BTW if you aren't a liscenced partner of the NFL, you could be getting a cease and disist letter for using the term Superbowl....I believe you are supposed to call it "The Big Game"

Toronto Mike
February 1, 2013 / 13:45

@Mississauga Phil

I do believe you're correct!

Toronto Mike
February 1, 2013 / 13:49

@Dave Williams

You know, the decriminalization of Cannabis in Canada is inevitable.

I say it happens in the next two years. It's the right thing to do.

Jason
February 1, 2013 / 13:54

I support the right to choose to be pro-life.

Mississauga Phil
February 1, 2013 / 13:59

@ Mike - the funy thing is, I hold nothing against Dave for his views on pot...to each their own..

My issue came from him telling me I'm a bad father (which I know I'm not...and nothing some digbat on a blog can say will change that) for hoping to be close enough with my son as an adult that a beer and joint around the campfire would be a possibility...it's not like my kid is walking around in a rasta hat and bob marley t-shirt...My boy has no idea what pot is, and I certainly don't use it when he's around.

but what burned me up more than anything was during your post about the tradgey in conneticut, when no one in the room/media/world was talking about the perp using pot, DAve came up wiht this Gem:

Dave Williams
December 14, 2012 / 18:02

The sad thing about what is happening with the shootings in the US is that the deaths were not called for. This was a sick individual period. The sad thing is that this person was disturbed in many ways and was a regular marijuana consumer.
I wonder what Phil thinks about consumption now? But wait he wants to light one up with his kid someday, maybe there is a tie in here.

That is a direct cut and paste from the archive of this blog....

Dave Williams
February 1, 2013 / 14:02

@Victoria, I believe that is should be a woman/couples right to choose, but the 55 million is a sad number. It is obvious that education for planned parenthood is not working.
@Mike, decriminalization possibly, legalization, highly unlikely. Wait until someone sues their doctor in the US for malpractice for prescribing pot. That will be the beginning of the end.

@Phil, I cannot understand how you have so many Rob Ford negatives, but cannot even suggest a better candidate.
@Phil, maybe I misunderstood, but how did I attempt to use the death of 18 children to start up the pot debate?

Toronto Mike
February 1, 2013 / 14:06

@Dave Williams

Aye, but no prescription will be needed. It will be like buying cigarettes or beer.

Missisasuga Phil
February 1, 2013 / 14:18

@ Dave - I'll post this again - below is your comment on Mike's post on the conneticut tragedy

Dave Williams
December 14, 2012 / 18:02

The sad thing about what is happening with the shootings in the US is that the deaths were not called for. This was a sick individual period. The sad thing is that this person was disturbed in many ways and was a regular marijuana consumer.
I wonder what Phil thinks about consumption now? But wait he wants to light one up with his kid someday, maybe there is a tie in here.


No one else was talking about pot and you thought this horrible situation was a good time to take a dig at me about pot...

Oh, and I think Pinball would make a much better mayor than Ford...check the success ratio on hi charity...the man is fiscally responsible which seems to be your only criteria for mayor.

Toronto Mike
February 1, 2013 / 14:22

Open Mike Trivia

Name the actor to have a recurring role on Breaking Bad, The Wire and Flight of the Conchords.

Rosie
February 1, 2013 / 14:27

San Fran 31 Baltimore 28

@Jamie completely agree re: the Star's mobile site. It's awful. I dislike not being able to see what the top stories are. And on the tablet, the ads are really cumbersome.

@Lorne Oh I'm so glad it arrived! Yay!

I saw a report this morning on CNN that the stress of the S****bowl can kill you! The overeating, drinking and excitement triggers heart attacks. So try to take it easy while while you watch the Big Game everyone ;)

Argie
February 1, 2013 / 14:28

@Victoria

Don't screw up and you won't have to worry about it.

Mississauga Phil
February 1, 2013 / 14:29

@ Mike - David Costabile

Do I win a prize??

Dave Williams
February 1, 2013 / 14:30

@Phil, the boy was drugged up with a level that could have impacted his judgement, we may never know.
No one said you were a bad parent, but stating that you could not wait to light one up with your son is just sad period as most people would hope their children never use drugs, yet you seem to encourage it with that statement.

With the statement that Pinball would make a better mayor than Ford or anyone else automatically disqualifies you from any future political debates as you really have no concept of municipal business.
Seriously Pinball? I should not had coffee in my mouth when I read that...

Toronto Mike
February 1, 2013 / 14:35

@Mississauga Phil

Correct! Your prize is the pride in knowing you won.

I knew him from The Wire and Breaking Bad, but had forgot he was in Flight of the Conchords. That's a sweet Resume for David Costabile.

Toronto Mike
February 1, 2013 / 14:36

@Rosie

The stress of this Open Mike could kill you!

p.s. Way to get your prediction in before the game this time.

Missisasuga Phil
February 1, 2013 / 14:39

@ Dave -

1) You did call me a bad parent...I'm a big boy and your opinion of me is pretty irrelivant in my life, but you did say it.

2) I guess i depends on your definition of "drug" since pot is not a pharmaceutical, or require any refining (like say..heroin) you and I will have to continue to disagree on that one. I will just say taht I've been smoking pot for about 10 years now, and never had the desire to pick up a gun and shoot anyone...

3) I did not say pinball would be better than anyone else...just Ford.

And you have no idea what I have a concept of or not...trust me. I have a near genuis level IQ (I also have ADD so it kinda balences out)and I'll debate any topic you'd like, if you were interested in debating. However, I defend my point when asked to..any time I've asked you to defend a point you skirt the issue...

Rosie
February 1, 2013 / 14:40

@Mike no kidding I wish I didn't have so much work to do otherwise I'd be right into the abortion discussion. Next time.

By the way, I was thinking about all that stuff you were saying about "the tone of the game" influencing my prediction last year. This is BS. Sports is crazy- you never know what is going to happen. It's completely unpredictable. Think of all the Leaf games where the tone is awesome, and then we are all left crying in our beverages.

Toronto Mike
February 1, 2013 / 14:43

@Rosie

Fact: When leading 2-0 in an NHL game, you win the vast majority of times.

This is why Vegas doesn't let you bet on a game that's already underway.

Missisasuga Phil
February 1, 2013 / 14:44

@ Mike -So it's like the much valued "no-prize" that Stan Lee used to give out in the letters section at the end of every spider man comic??

I'll take it!!!

Dave Williams
February 1, 2013 / 14:56

@Phil, I know several Mensa members personally not one of them has ever had to pull the "I have a near genius IQ" card as most with high IQ's can demonstrate their intelligence clearly without the validatation of such a statement.
Either way, I am sure most people out their think that parents that want to light one up with their kids think that those parents are good parents.ummm hmmm.

Mississauga Phil
February 1, 2013 / 14:58

@ Dave - chirp chirp chirp...no substance just chirping :)

As I said, anytime you want to have an intellegent debate, you let me know....

Dave Williams
February 1, 2013 / 15:10

@Phil, I attempted to have an intelligent debate. I ask you seriously who you would have replace Rob Ford and why. You throw Pinball Clemons, I like Pinball, one heck of a football player and seems like a nice guy, but he hardly qualifies as a serious political contender for any seat let alone mayor.
Take the time, think about it, ask your friends, and lets see if you can come up with someone who will manage the city, not abuse our taxes, and try to attract business back into the city.

Mississauga Phil
February 1, 2013 / 15:13

@ Dave - No, an intellegent debate is one where there is a free flow of ideas, a point, counterpoint if you will.

You never get around to the counterpoint, I ask you about Ford and you just say how he's better than Millar, which I agree with you on, but being a better mayor than Dave Millar is kinda like being a better parent than Kris Jenner, not very hard.

I have asked you for defence of specific actions by Rob Ford, and not once have you come back with an intellegent response.

PLease leave me alone now...the grown ups are talking..

Sam in Scarb
February 1, 2013 / 15:17

A website down in the states is running a pool on thebiggamesundaynight which they have actually have come up with a very unique idea.
$ 50.00 winner take all...
Correctly guess the EXACT number of times Harbaugh will be said during the game. We are not taking O/U guesses here, we want an exact number.
A geek having fun!

Dave Williams
February 1, 2013 / 15:20

@Phil, and Kris Jenner is?....

Mississauga Phil
February 1, 2013 / 15:25

@ Dave - you know very well who she is. she is the mother of those idiotic Kardashian people. ANd yes i know your going to come back with something like "i don't watch that crap so i don't know who she is."

I don't watch it either, but i do own a TV and a computer so unfortunatly i am innendated with information i don't want....and i notice you skipped over all my other points again, as you have no response to them...typical of you. instead of answering a point you don't like (or can't answer) you just skip by it and make you point...hence no debate....

Dave Williams
February 1, 2013 / 15:32

@Phil, I think I provided several points why Rob Ford is doing a credible job running our city. You sir even agreed with some of those points previously. Your dislike for the man is based on negative left wing media, and you have bought into all the negative press on the personal side of Rob Ford.
You keep stating that I am skipping over your points. I have not even seen a point that you want me to debate. Present your points and I will reflect on them. If you do not have anything that he has not tried to follow up on for what is platform was, the debate is officially over...
PS...Pinball Clemons....lol

Dave Williams
February 1, 2013 / 16:02

@Phil, I am also interested in who you feel was credible polititan in any party at any point?

Kevin
February 1, 2013 / 16:18

Phil and Dave

Get a room you two.

Mike from Lowville
February 1, 2013 / 16:20

@ Argie. Does that mean her partner wear a little rubber thing? May the Lord strike ye down!!

Mississauga Phil
February 1, 2013 / 16:22

@ Kevin very true

I'm tapping out of this one. It's like debating a moderator from Fox News, they don't want to hear bad things about the people they like, and as such just keep yelling until the other side give s up....

Contgratulations Dave you win Rob Ford is the greatest mayor Toronto has ever seen...we should vote him for PM.....

Kevin
February 1, 2013 / 16:25

And my prediction:

San Fran 40, Baltimore 22

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February 1, 2013 / 16:31

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February 1, 2013 / 16:32

Dave Williams
February 1, 2013 / 16:33

@Phil, it appears that substance prevails yet again. Interesting how you could not come up with even one strong candidate. At least you could spell IQ....lol

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February 1, 2013 / 16:35

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February 1, 2013 / 16:41

Corey
February 1, 2013 / 16:51

@Mike

So how do you reconcile this:"It's her body and her choice." with this:"We know full well that if left undisturbed, or unless naturally aborted via miscarriage, that collection of cells is going to become a human being. There's no chance of it becoming a loaf of bread, or an orange - it's going to be a person."

To me it seems clear that just because our biology dictates that only females can carry offspring, we are allowing women the extraordinary power to end a life at their discretion. We skirt around this by employing a technicality to make it seem okay - determining that a fetus is not "alive".

Toronto Mike
February 1, 2013 / 17:07

@Corey

You wrote "we are allowing women the extraordinary power to end a life at their discretion".

That's the rub. You wrote "life".

Subsection 223(1) of the Criminal Code here in Canada states that a child becomes a human being only at the moment of complete birth. In other words, women don't have "extraordinary power to end a life at their discretion".

Guys, we're not seriously re-opening the debate on abortion in Canada, are we? It's 2013... let's move on...

Sam in Pickering
February 1, 2013 / 17:27

It's time to get back at the real issues, like Rob Ford spending $40K over the legal limit in 2010 campaign.

Froese Forensic Partners, which delivered its report to the city Friday afternoon, alleges that the mayor’s campaign overspent during his mayoral bid by $40,168, or 3%. Among the other apparent contraventions, auditors found 11 cheques totalling $6,000 that were made by corporations, which is both in apparent contravention of the act, and city bylaw that prohibits companies and unions from donating to election campaigns. In all of these cases, receipts were issued to an individual and reported as such but the auditors believe they are reporting contraventions.

Here we go again!

Corey
February 1, 2013 / 17:33

Geez, that's exactly my problem with the whole thing. We're okay with abortion because lawyer and judges and politicians have helped us dehumanized the whole thing. The moment of complete birth, I believe would be defined as complete emergence and severance of the umbilical cord. So theoretically, a baby whose head is visible could still be "aborted". Anyone here believe that a child 2 minutes away from delivery isn't human? It's absurd really. But because its written in the Criminal Code, we're okay with it. Homosexuality was a crime according to the Criminal Code until the late 60s.

Moving on...

Toronto Mike
February 1, 2013 / 17:39

@Corey

I don't know anyone who wants women to get abortions. It's not about liking it, it's about defending the right of a woman to choose to have one, and not judging them for it.

If my daughter comes to me in ten years and tells me she's going to get an abortion, I will try and talk her out of it and tell her the options. Heck, I might beg her to give birth and let me raise the child. But it's her decision, and I'll stand by her decision because I can't make it for her. I don't have that right.

Toronto Mike
February 1, 2013 / 17:41

@Sam in Pickering

I'm reading up on my daily Rob Ford scandal right now.

Sounds like another serious violation. I'll give him this, the man is consistent.

Ken U Barrett
February 1, 2013 / 17:55

Humm has anyone in the Toronto media investigated anything about Adam Vaughn?
Humm maybe the Toronto media not doing their job??Maybe i wonder..
Oh maybe just maybe it is just too easy to jump and pile on an existing story-line instead of oh maybe JUST doing your jobs as reporters and reporting facts
Now that might be an idea...
Oh sorry..the monkey story is more important.

Another Lurker
February 1, 2013 / 18:30

Sure Ken, ignore the fact that an independent audit found the mayor overspending in an election.

Facts are facts.

Dave Williams
February 1, 2013 / 18:32

@Mike, why is it the Ford is always tried in the media and the so called facts are leaked, but the complete story is never leaked? It gives headline readers like Phil ugly thoughts.

Toronto Mike
February 1, 2013 / 18:36

@Dave Williams

What are you talking about?

The audit by Froese Forensic Partners wasn't leaked, it was released today. The media would report on an audit showing the mayor over spent regardless of who the mayor was.

The complete story is in the audit, which was released to every media outlet today. Even the Toronto Sun is covering it, because it's their job to cover it: http://www.torontosun.com/2013/02/01/campaign-audit-shows-mayor-rob-ford-broke-election-rules

Rob de
February 1, 2013 / 18:43

Groundhog Day reminds of that hilarious Pete and Geets skit on CHUMFM where Geets is reporting live from the Wiarton. Just as Willie comes out to see his shadow the sound of gunfire is heard followed by Geets reporting "I got him, I got him".

Mississauga Phil
February 1, 2013 / 18:53

@Dave - chrip chrip chirp

@ Mike - Ford for PM!!!!

Lynne
February 1, 2013 / 20:30

SF - 28 Bal - 21

Rosie
February 1, 2013 / 20:46

Wow.

You do all know that not having access to legal abortion KILLS WOMEN.

Millions of women in countries with anti-abortions laws die every year from illegal abortions.

Reading some of these comments made me stop and thank God that I live in a country with no laws restricting abortion, and where a man has no legal right to veto a woman's abortion decision.

I love you Canada!

Gary
February 1, 2013 / 21:11

27-17....San Fran wins.

Lynne
February 1, 2013 / 22:58

@Rosie In 1951 my beautiful 23 year old aunt died of "appendicitis". That was code for a botched abortion. I see her gravestone every time I visit my parents in the cemetery. I would add that men seem to feel they have the right to "create life" and turn their backs on the results of their actions. Then they have the nerve to preach against a woman's right to choose. I would be willing to bet that for every 10 abortions there are 9.5 very relieved so-called men.

Handsome Rob
February 2, 2013 / 00:21

I HATE THE NEW STAR WEB SITE!!!!!!! AND THE MOBILE ONE IS EVEN WORSE, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

Ok, I'm good now.

San Fran by 6

Dave Williams
February 2, 2013 / 03:50

@ Lynne, my condolances about your aunt, but I feel you are wrong about the 9.5 comment. I do however wonder how many of the 55 million women regret their decisions to abort years after the fact.
@Mike, one the Rob Ford audit gets disected, we will see that this man again is being strung up by the media. The sad thing here is that the man keeps having to defend a never ending onslaught of BS, that is fabricated by the left wing media, atleast he had stood by his platform and has done a credible job at city hall.

Lynne
February 2, 2013 / 06:58

@Rosie - It's pointless with this idiots, isn't it?

@Dave Williams - If men got pregnant there would have been 110 million abortions.

And for every 10 abortions there are 10 women who never forget.

J9
February 2, 2013 / 07:29

@Rosie and @ Lynne.
Amen sisters.

To change the topic completely (please), what about that goofball in Alabama who kidnapped a kid off a school bus and is now holed up in a bunker?! It is now into the 5th day - pray to God that this ends with the parents being reunited with their child. And the goofball gets the mental health help he obviously needs.

Cheryl
February 2, 2013 / 08:04

My Suns and Coyotes both lost last night. It was a bad night. Oh well, my Habs will win today. It's an afternoon game against the Sabres. PK Subban is back and he is great. He's the best. He will score lots of goals.

Grocery Gateway's customer service sucks and they want me to call them after I place an order and wait forever on stupid hold. I hate waiting on hold. As I said, Grocery Gateway has to learn customer service from Westjet, Primus, or ING Direct. Those companies never put you on hold unless you want to be put on hold. The other option is you leave a callback number and get a call back when there is someone free.

The Star's new web site does suck though. It's a mess. As for the mobile site, I don't have a mobile device so haven't been on it. I'll never get a cellphone or blackberry or whatever. I don't need it. People can leave messages and I will get back to them. Why should I get a mobile device. I have no idea why I should. We did well without them for many years.

Argie
February 2, 2013 / 08:56

Obviously debating whether abortion should be legal or not is futile. I'm not going to convince anyone who is OK with 55 million babies killed by heir mothers and parasite doctors and I wont be convinced by weak arguments from clueless people like Rosie, Rick and my lazy union friend Lorne.

Here's what I was after. I was hoping the figure of 55 million would have an effect on these pro-choicers. Clearly it doesn't and even if that number 550, I now know it wouldn't effect their opinion on whether abortion should be legal or not. That's really sad.

Dave Williams
February 2, 2013 / 09:20

@Lynne, why the animosity, I think the number 55 million is obscene. If you show an obese person a physical example of the amount of actual sugar they consume, they usually get the point.
You clearly have a dog in this fight. My condolences to you personally.
Someday you will not be so bitter.

Lorne
February 2, 2013 / 11:40

@Argie: You're a boring troll. Try harder next time.

Rosie
February 2, 2013 / 12:16

To those of you who are so sad over that number, why? Were you personally going to provide food, clothing, shelter, healthcare and education to any of those fetuses?

To any woman who happens upon this thread of conversation, let it serve as a reminder that the battle for the right to an abortion was hard-fought. The Morgentaler Clinic website provides really clear information about abortions, in lots of different languages.

Thanks fellas for providing an opportunity to remind women what we are up against when it comes to protecting our right to choose. Have a great weekend! :)

Rosie
February 2, 2013 / 12:17

To those of you who are so sad over that number, why? Were you personally going to provide food, clothing, shelter, healthcare and education to any of those fetuses?

To any woman who happens upon this thread of conversation, let it serve as a reminder that the battle for the right to an abortion was hard-fought. The Morgentaler Clinic website provides really clear information about abortions, in lots of different languages.

Thanks fellas for providing an opportunity to remind women what we are up against when it comes to protecting our right to choose. Have a great weekend! :)

Argie
February 2, 2013 / 12:21

Lorne,

You are a weak lump. Yep, that about sums it up for you.

Argie
February 2, 2013 / 12:23

Rosie,

Please stop - your humour is killing me.

andrew
February 2, 2013 / 13:08

This debate about abortions is ridiculous.

There are methods of birth control & people not using them.
The only time I would agree with an abortion if there is problem detected with a fetus during ultrasounds or other similar circumstances.

Abortion is NOT an option for birth control.

Gentlemen wear your rubbers & Ladies take your pills or other available opportunities.

Dave Williams
February 2, 2013 / 13:33

@Rosie, if it takes two to make a baby, why should it not take two to make the decision to keep it? The number is sad in more than one way. If you cannot comprehend that emotion, you will never understand.

Liz
February 2, 2013 / 14:39

Hey Kids,

I just returned from a few days in New York State (Hamburg and Victor) and thought I'd check out the always interesting Toronto Mike blog. And, what do I find? A roiling abortion debate. What is this? A fucking Rush Limbaugh conference? Now I'm all bummed out - and it's usually just Cheryl's posts that make me feel that way.

@Rosie

"To those of you who are so sad over that number, why? Were you personally going to provide food, clothing, shelter, healthcare and education to any of those fetuses?" Well said.

@Argie

You're a seasoned shit disturber. And, you need a good smack. I'd be interested in learning what type of paid work you do? You know, when you're not demonstrating in front of abortion clinics waving pictures of clumps of cells.

I'm just heading out for a run - maybe I'll be able to think of something more productive to post (productive, not reproductive).

@ Toronto Mike

Just noticed the women (in the ad) peering out at me as I write this - they all have gigantic cans. And sore backs!

For the Humble and Fred listeners - thoughts about the podcast now that the fellas listened to the feedback from the 100 per centers? I'm a bit behind in my listening (to their podcast and Mike and Rosie's latest one) but did catch some of the Seamus O'Regan interview and just loved it. I could listen to the three of them chat it all up for a good long time. As Howard says, "I loved the shit out of that!" They might not be saying fuck for breakfast anymore but I sure am glad Clean for 2013 isn't an absolute.

Now until next time, why don't you abortion lunatics take a break. There's a ton of other shit out there for you to occupy yourselves with.

Remember, it's Saturday - have some fucking fun, would ya?

Toronto Mike
February 2, 2013 / 15:50

@Liz

Well said. My son scored two goals this morning and I couldn't be prouder.

@Everyone

I'm happy to host these Open Mikes where everything goes and cease and desist orders are aplenty, but let's chill out on the Rush Limbaugh stuff... please...

Topics you can save for other forums:

Pro-choice vs. pro-life
Evils of marijuana
The world against Rob Ford

Thank you,

The Management

Mississauga Phil
February 2, 2013 / 16:24

@ Mike - Congrats on you sons great game.

....not another word about the afformentioned subjuects.

@ Liz - I've noticed a lot of women with big cans have sore backs....that's why I've always been more of a bum man...

Smaller boobs = Better posture :)

Dave Williams
February 2, 2013 / 16:48

@Mike, has Arlene Bynon been released from AM640?
@Phil truce.

Toronto Mike
February 2, 2013 / 17:05

@Dave Williams

Arlene Bynon was replaced on Bill Carroll's show and has been wiped from the 640 website.

Looks like she's been turfed. No big surprise, really.

Mississauga Phil
February 2, 2013 / 17:14

@ Dave - truce

@ mike - they should just turf 640 as a whole. Even the ultra right Freddie P thinks they're a joke

Dave Williams
February 2, 2013 / 17:28

@Phil, the best Toronto radio personality has to be Mike Stafford (apoligies to Toronto Mike). Why is the station a joke? Bill Carroll coming back only strengthens the brand.

Jamie
February 2, 2013 / 18:14

Mikey .... Is this a record comment number? Btw, I see you've copyied my score there bal 24- sf 17. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Thank you welcome.

Gary
February 2, 2013 / 18:16

Habs beat Buffalo....Damn! I don't know how they keep winning.

Cheryl
February 2, 2013 / 18:21

My Habs won today. That's great. No goals by my favourite player, PK Subban. He got an assist though which is something. Habs 6 Sabres 1. My coyotes will win tonight.

My trainer will be on his way to Barrie tomorrow for the Provincials so I get no workouts next week. If he makes it to the Brier, then another week off in March. There are lots of good teams out there. It will be tough.

Toronto Mike
February 2, 2013 / 18:25

@Dave Williams

I like Mike Stafford and always enjoy listening to him.

He fired Freddie P as his best man, not me!

Rick C in Oakville
February 2, 2013 / 18:28

I think Arlene Bynon is an intelligent and capable journalist, but was dry as toast for the radio delivery. I am surprised they let it go almost 18 months. Poor Mike Stafford is never the bride, but always the bridesmaid (as my Scottish gran would say) for the 4PM slot. He just seems to be passed over for the prime time spot.

Mississauga Phil
February 2, 2013 / 18:46

@ Dave - 640 left my dial when they cut the hockey talk during the drive home. They try very hard to be Fox North and it just comes off comical. Most true conservatives I know think that the majority of the content on 640 panders to your hardline, but uneducated, conservative who wants others to tell them what to be mad about.

While I am clearly not 'conservative' in the modern use of the term (funny how I voted PC and think the current incarnations of the Liberals and NDP are laughable at best) I find it hard to believe that anyone with a modecrum of intellegence would buy into that garbage.

Now, I will say Stafford coming back gives the station a bit more credibility. I may not always agree with the man, but I do find him well spoken and usually has his facts straight, and doesn't try to twist them to suit his argument.

mississauga phil
February 2, 2013 / 18:48

* clearly I ment to say with Bill Carrol coming back....not quite sure why I put stafford there.

Liz
February 2, 2013 / 19:05

@Toronto Mike

Whew! Glad to hear from The Management.

Honestly, when I first checked in earlier - and scanned some of the spew - I was surprised, and then a tiny bit aggravated.

While driving in the U.S. the past two days I did listen to a lot of Rush on his EIB network. The guy really started to make me whoozy after awhile. But I couldn't help myself! Agree or disagree with the guy, he makes for some compelling radio. You know exactly what you're doing to your brain, but your fingers won't let you change the station to save you from yourself. While I did eventually grow weary of the anger and the vitriol, there are millions listening to Rush each day who do not. Explains a lot.

My Limbaugh addled brain reacted to how things had devolved here on the Open Mike - probably because the content served as a freaky parallel of sorts.

Just as Carlin had the 7 "big" words that weren't broadcast worthy, The Management @ Toronto Mike is getting its arms around the circular topics that will go nowhere and add little to no value - essentially the bulk of Argie's hit parade, for example.

Way to go, James! Two goals makes for a sweet way to start the day for the Boon clan. We've had SO many early morning hockey games over the years. Glad you're enjoying the time together.

On another note, anyone heard of Shredd & Ragan out of Buffalo? I lost my podcast virginity with these guys and they are funny as hell - a super smart. I discovered them about four years ago while in the Buffalo area for business - and was able to listen to them live again this week. I wish I had more time to check out their podcasts but between Mike and Rosie, Miss Michelle and my sweet Humble and Fred, there's not a lot of time left.

How many of us are making chili tomorrow?

Well kids, I hear the music from the other room. Time to drop the puck! Enjoy your evening.

Media Fan
February 2, 2013 / 19:17

Haven't had a chance to listen to H&F's Friday podcast. If anyone has, did they admit to f'ing up the Ann Coulter story? They expressed righteous indignation about the report that Coulter refused to fly on a plane piloted by a black female pilot, and even drew Seamus O'Regan into the discussion. Problem was, the story was a fake, posted by a "The Onion" type satirical outfit. Whoops - a bit embarrrassing for a comedy duo to be faked out like that.

Blind Dave
February 2, 2013 / 19:37

A French groundhog named FRED???

This is like the Sesame Street's, "One of these things does not belong...":

- Wiarton Willie
- Winnipeg Willow
- Shubenacadie Sam
- Punxsutawney Phil
- Fred

Besides, shouldn't that be Frederic? Isn't that I violation of the Quebec language laws?

Liz
February 2, 2013 / 20:33

@Media Fan

H&F didn't hesitate to point out that they f'ed up the Coulter report. I wouldn't say they were "faked out". Freddie's a news hound junkie who had his suspicions since he hadn't heard anything about it prior to Humble raising it.

Embarrassing? I wouldn't say so.

Rick C in Oakville
February 2, 2013 / 20:33

@Media Fan: They ate their Humble and Fred Pie on the story, apologising right out of the gate.

Dave Williams
February 2, 2013 / 20:48

@Phil, Harry Kapiyto always adds a good laugh when he is on the air. But before Bill Carroll returned to Toronto Radio, I would only listen to Stafford on the channel.
@Mike, what is the Coles Notes version on why Stafford fired Fred?

Jamie
February 2, 2013 / 21:42

Mike.... Just finished watching a screener copy of Django unchained and I agree it was AWESOME. I'm so full of adrenaline after watching it. Just a great great film.

Jason
February 2, 2013 / 23:11

Anyone know what's up with the Fan 590 broadcasting CBS Radio on overnights?

Cheryl
February 3, 2013 / 08:06

My coyotes won as well last night 2 to 0. That's great that both my favourite hockey teams won and the Leafs lost, ha ha. My Habs will win again today. PK Subban will score his first goal of the season. I just know he will.

Andrew
February 3, 2013 / 08:30

@Jason,

Cheaper to buy syndication than have four people do overnights:
Host
Producer
Tech Ops
Assistant Producer - research
Free Intern.
Sad, but $$$$

Dawn Keibals
February 3, 2013 / 09:26

@Andrew actually CBS is providing 6 months free 12-6 AM filler just to get their product out there.

Andrew
February 3, 2013 / 11:25

6 months free. Then how much after that per month?
Besides, I live in GTA. I want GTA related sports talk. I know it's all the same major sports being talked about, but I want a Canadian/GTA slant. I'll turn on Sirius or listen online if I wanted US sports.

Cheers,
Andrew

Lorne
February 3, 2013 / 11:31

That's it, I've had it with Argie. I hate to feed the trolls more, but this will be (literally) the last time. I'm adding his name to the Ignore Uses Greasemonkey extension I wrote.

This has nothing to do with debating. He's a troll, straight up and flat out. All he does is post things ranging from controversial to offensive, for the sole point of creating chaos. There's no facts, no point, no debate. It's a troll, and isn't worth anyone's time.

I have better things to do with my life. Hell, I have better things to do on TorontoMike.Com. HELL, I have better things to do on this very thread in TorontoMike.Com.

Argie is a troll, and is a detriment to Mike's site, and quite frankly, I'm looking forward to a discussion without him. Once I add "argie" to blacklist[] I'll finally be able to give him the exact level of attention he richly deserves.

Rick C in Oakville
February 3, 2013 / 12:28

Cool program Lorne to block posters. Thanks

Stephanie
February 3, 2013 / 12:43

I just read that Chris Kyle was shot in Texas. He was the author of American Sniper, an ex Navy Seal. Humble and Fred had him on their show and I just went back into the catalogue and it was May 22. I thought it was a fascinating segment at the time and when I saw the name this morning it all rang a bell..

Argie
February 3, 2013 / 13:14

Lorne,

That was your best post EVER!

Thank you and God Bless.

Ominous Spiritus
February 3, 2013 / 15:28

I can't remember exactly who it was (I'm thinking it was 4X4 Time) that was looking for a copy of Gowan's Strange Animal on vinyl for his son at Chritmas time. Turns out that I have one and it's available to this person for free if they still want it. I would consider it in mint condition, just need to know where to send it. Mike, if you don't mind acting as a third party I'd have no problem getting rid of it.

Anon&on
February 3, 2013 / 16:55

23-20 Ravens. Scandal, 49ers robbed.
Keys nails the anthem but takes major heat for taking a self-shot with a new BB Z10. Sponsors complain. Beyonce nails the half-time show but someone is injured falling off stage (may or may not be Beyonce, I can't tell for sure, sorry).

Cheryl
February 3, 2013 / 16:57

My Habs just won 2 to 1. That's great. PK Subban did not score though. One day he will. I just know it.

Peter
February 3, 2013 / 18:47

Just came back from skating on the Rideau Canal in Ottawa. Best skating experience if you're into that.
Was listing to a great alternative radio station in Ottawa, reminded me a lot of CFNY when I enjoyed it in the 80's 90's - Live 88.5
Has it's own radio app.

Rick C in Oakville
February 3, 2013 / 21:02

Ravens mopping the floor with the 49er's. Guess the superdome didn't pay the hydro bill last month.
Always wanted to skate the Rideau, but every year we looked to go it was not open.
Very thoughtful of Ominous Spirit to offer up his vinyl album for a fellow blog subscriber!!!

4x4 Time
February 3, 2013 / 21:25

@Ominous Spiritus - Yes, that was me looking for that album for my wife. I was able to find Strange Animal in time for Xmas, as well as the albums Gowan and Great Dirty World so I am good. But your generosity and thoughtfulness is very much appreciated. Good Karma to you man! Thanks again..

Moe Berg
February 3, 2013 / 22:09

4x4 Time.....nice one brother.
Toronto Mike....need a copy of the only good TPOH album in their catalog? Went down memory lane this afternoon and discovered I have that as well as A Nation of Millions on vinyl. Both can be yours for the amazingly low price of NOTHING. I'm not getting a turntable anytime soon and there comes a time when a purge is kinda cathartic and if I can pass those on to a WIRE fan like you.....I'm with it. Sorry but my Paul's Boutique is not available (best B-Boys album EVER).

Moe Berg
February 3, 2013 / 22:10

4x4 Time.....nice one brother.
Toronto Mike....need a copy of the only good TPOH album in their catalog? Went down memory lane this afternoon and discovered I have that as well as A Nation of Millions on vinyl. Both can be yours for the amazingly low price of NOTHING. I'm not getting a turntable anytime soon and there comes a time when a purge is kinda cathartic and if I can pass those on to a WIRE fan like you.....I'm with it. Sorry but my Paul's Boutique is not available (best B-Boys album EVER).

Moe Berg
February 3, 2013 / 22:10

4x4 Time.....nice one brother.
Toronto Mike....need a copy of the only good TPOH album in their catalog? Went down memory lane this afternoon and discovered I have that as well as A Nation of Millions on vinyl. Both can be yours for the amazingly low price of NOTHING. I'm not getting a turntable anytime soon and there comes a time when a purge is kinda cathartic and if I can pass those on to a WIRE fan like you.....I'm with it. Sorry but my Paul's Boutique is not available (best B-Boys album EVER).

Moe Berg
February 3, 2013 / 22:25

Sorry for the duplicate posts, my bad

Gary
February 3, 2013 / 22:53

First, let me say that it was not my type of music....but I thought the half-time show was the worst ever.

Jason from Sudbury
February 4, 2013 / 00:49

Just like Pete McPhedran, I did not watch the Super Bowl, I do not care who won and did not see or care about the half time show. I did watch my Habs beat Ottawa this afternoon though.


Dave Williams
February 4, 2013 / 07:46

@ Phil, here is another example on why you do not want to possess pot.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2013/02/03/20550306-qmi.html
Poor guy wins a trip of a lifetime and cannot enjoy it.

Mississauga phil
February 4, 2013 / 08:17

@ Dave - i thought we were dropping this.....

Dave Williams
February 4, 2013 / 08:22

Sorry Phil, I will not bring it up again. I did feel for the guy who was turned away. He should have attempted to get his record pardoned.

Dave Williams
February 4, 2013 / 09:25

@Mike, do you have the short version why Mike fired Freddie as his best man, I beleive they are still on good terms with each other.

Toronto Mike
February 4, 2013 / 09:32

@Dave Williams

I believe they are on no terms with each other.

Argie
February 4, 2013 / 09:33

Well, this was a fun Open Mike, eh? Lots of views, some intelligent, some not so much. We even had an angry Lorne leave in a huff - which is always fun.

I realize the topic of abortion can get heated, but if eliminate topics like that we are stuck discussing Mike's son scoring two goals in his game or Liz searching the world for a Mac for her special son. Is that what we really want?

No offence Mike....

Toronto Mike
February 4, 2013 / 09:39

@Argie

What's next? A debate about whether women should have the vote or whether we can trust Japanese Canadians?

There are lots of topics to discuss that are controversial and fun without having to haul out the same dead horses like abortion and pot.

For example, I disliked Silver Linings Playbook. I feel like I might be the only one who didn't love that film.

Liz
February 4, 2013 / 09:40

Hey Argie,

Go F*** yourself.

Toronto Mike
February 4, 2013 / 09:41

Re: Super Bowl

The half-time show did nothing for me, but I didn't expect to be moved by Beyonce. I got what I expected and I knew it wasn't for me. I found it boring.

But the game.... until the blackout, I thought it was going to be a dog of a game, but then it became pretty great. Without a horse in the race, I just wanted a close game, and I got that.

Now who won our pool? Is Blind Dave the closest?

Argie
February 4, 2013 / 09:42

Mike,

Women should be allowed to vote - provided they're smart enough. I happen to like the Japanese, especially their cars and electronics....

I haven't seen SLP, but will when it comes out on video.

Argie
February 4, 2013 / 09:44

Liz,

You're all class. That's my Christian response to you.

Dave Williams
February 4, 2013 / 09:54

@Argie based on Liz's last comment, she likely should not be allowed to vote....lol
On second thought, give her the right, if she could locate the polling station.

Anonymous
February 4, 2013 / 09:56

Mike, like you, I don't quite get what the best-picture hype is over SLP. It was an okay movie but nothing spectacular. I also watched Beasts of the Southern Wild this weekend... another one that I just don't get.

Argie
February 4, 2013 / 09:59

I thought 'No Country For Old Men' was way over-rated.

Toronto Mike
February 4, 2013 / 10:08

I'm bored by zombie stuff... zombie shows, zombie movies... zombies, apparently, aren't my thing.

Cheryl
February 4, 2013 / 10:17

I did not watch the Superbowl because I don't care. I listened to my Habs yesterday afternoon. They're great and one of these days my favourite player, PK Subban will score a goal. I just know he will.

Anyway, women should be allowed to vote. We can vote now so why take away that right. If George Smitherman ever comes back, I'll want to vote for him again.

Dave Williams
February 4, 2013 / 10:36

The reason why Soccer will never be popular in North America.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/05/sports/soccer/investigation-finds-suspected-fixing-in-680-soccer-matches.html?hp

It could also be tied into why Europeans Judging any event may be questioned at times.

Ben Vidal
February 4, 2013 / 10:53

@ Dave: Where do you get your facts on this???? I think your one of those people where you believe your personal opinion is right for everyone. First off registration in soccer in the US has exploded in the last 10 years for both boys and girls. The reason? Parents are tired of having their kids brains turned to mush playing football. While it might be fine to watch football and see other people bash in their brains, most parents now adays don't want that for their kids. Give it another 10 years and soccer won't be #1 but it will continue to climb. Take the time to look up some stats before saying something stupid. As for price fixing... There has been fixing in a number of sports throughout the years in north america and none of that has ruined the sport in terms of viewership. I don't condone fixing at any sport, but get over it. too me it's no different than all the athletes who got roided up to win. It's all cheating.

As to your last comment about Europeans judging. I can only ask are you a moron??? Really?

Lastly get over the pot debate you are among a growing minority of people who care. Just like argie and his abortions. Get a new shtick as what you are offering is tired and indicates your age.

Dave Williams
February 4, 2013 / 11:05

@Ben, there are medications that you could take to relax a bit, or possibly a support group that you could join. Soccer has been around for over 100 years and has gained little traction in North America.
I should advise you though that there is a online dictonary that you can utilize if you cannot spell some of those big well thought out words. As far as the poor grammer, you may have to take some additional classes.
Peace.

Jamie
February 4, 2013 / 11:20

I like cheese... Discuss

Toronto Mike
February 4, 2013 / 11:26

@Jamie

I'm never without President's Choice Blue Menu Mozzerella Cheese. I use it all the time.

Corey
February 4, 2013 / 12:24

"The half-time show did nothing for me, but I didn't expect to be moved by Beyonce."

I'm not into Beyonce's music either, but I fully expected to be moved by her. She didn't disappoint. :)

Dave Williams
February 4, 2013 / 12:30

@Mike, maybe the CFL could get The Trews for next years Grey Cup.
I think Van Halen likely would have gone over much better than Beyonce.

Dave Williams
February 4, 2013 / 13:28

@Ben; "Parents are tired of having their kids brains turned to mush playing football."
Ben, in the US girls are 2.5 times more likely to get concussed playing soccer than boys playing football. So according to you, most parents would perfer that their children ruin their brains playing soccer than football? I realize you clearly toom the time to review YOUR stats prior to posting a rebuttal, but next time you try act like some kind of authority, maybe a bit of research would not hurt, as sir you really came off as a dolt.

Ben Vidal
February 4, 2013 / 14:05

@Dave. Bravo you did an internet search and went to the first site that came up. I commend you on such stupendous computer skills. I also see that you didn't bother to read the article fully. Typical from someone like yourself. The site article you were looking at was titled "Reasons Female Athletes At Higher Risk For Concussions Than Males Hard To Explain, Says Dr. Robert Cantu". Once again I'll use the word moron in reference to yourself, but this time I will add "huge" to your moron title.

Do you want me to feed you stats on the growth of soccer in the US? Is that what you were looking for? Do you want actual facts on concussions in soccer vs. football. Or long term affects of football on football player's brains? This one stat just shows how much of a huge moron you are "High school football is consistently shown in studies to be the sport with the greatest proportion of concussions (47.1%) and the highest concussion rate (6.4 concussions per 10,000 athletic exposures)". Would you like another 1,000 stats on the danger of football???

Also don't throw stones in glass houses buddy your spelling and grammar isn't exactly something to be admired. This time I "took" not toom(your original spelling) the time to post information I already had.

One other article on soccer in the US is here http://www.businessinsider.com/soccer-popularity-2012-9

I really think you should stop talking about sports, pot and abortion. You and your opinions are about as relevant as a floppy disk. With your intelligence being on the same level as a pet rock.

Dave Williams
February 4, 2013 / 14:47

@Ben, my spelling issue is attributed to a typo, yours sir is due to phonetics. I have not actually expressed an opinion on abortion. If dig even deeper into my posts, I have not really spoke much about sports. The issue here is your lack of understanding on the sports lack of success on a professional level. No worries, several more intelligent people have fallen prey to the same concerns, but they have lost millions in doing so. Major League Soccer has been a financial bust since its inception. Maybe someone of your intellect could explain that?
Keep posting, several of us here are getting a good laugh at your expense.

Argie
February 4, 2013 / 15:07

I bet we can break the record for most posts for a discussion if I give my opinion on gay marriage. Come on guys, let's do it!!!

Dave Williams
February 4, 2013 / 15:11

@Argie, I cannot help you on this one, however, I am sure Mr. Vidal has personal experience to go on with that topic.

Ben Vidal
February 4, 2013 / 15:31

Thanks Dave a typo being the same as auto correct from a phone. I understand the difference between your and you're along with they're their and there. I don't have a problem with phonetics, but good on you for using a word of the day calendar.

Agreed financially MLS soccer has been a bust for many of the teams. Are they in a better financial state today than 10 years ago? Yes. Is there a lot of work to be done for profitability? Yes. I have not denied any of that. I only stated that there will be a shift to soccer in the coming years. Have you bothered to look at the financial performance of most of the teams in the NHL? How long has NHL been "big" in North America?

I love how you pulled a misrepresented stat to try and prove a point. Then when confronted with your warped version of the truth you don't bother to answer or discuss. Instead you move onto something else. Do you work with Rob Ford?

Lastly I don't see people laughing on here at my expense. Are you sure those aren't the voices in your head?

Mississauga Phil
February 4, 2013 / 16:32

@ Argie - saying anythign about anyones kids, *special* or not is classless. You are clearly trying to get a rise out of Liz. On this one, i am going to have to second her thought.....go fuck yourself

*Mike if you have to delete this due to language, I understand, but F**k just deosn't get my disgust with him quite right!

Toronto Mike
February 4, 2013 / 16:50

@Mississauga Phil

Swearing is fine by me...

Dave Williams
February 4, 2013 / 17:23

@Ben, thank god we do not have you holding any public office, if accepting a LOSS financially is good, your ecomonic policy stinks.
PS the people laughing at you are the people in my office that think you are totally confused. You sir are a DOLT in every aspect of the word.

andrew
February 4, 2013 / 19:01

How come every time Dion Phaneuf has a comment on TSN or Sportsnet after a game he's alway wearing a RED BULL hat - NOT A MAPLE LEAF cap as he is the captain of the the Leafs?

Not proud to be a Leaf Dion - Time to move on!!

Argie
February 4, 2013 / 19:41

Phil,

You must be having a bad day. I wasn't making fun of Liz's kid - only Liz. I hope Liz realizes that too.

I would never make fun of someone's kid - even yours. You can believe me or not, I really dont care.

Telling someone to go eff themselves is beyond classless - its unoriginal and moronic.

Argie
February 4, 2013 / 19:41

Phil,

You must be having a bad day. I wasn't making fun of Liz's kid - only Liz. I hope Liz realizes that too.

I would never make fun of someone's kid - even yours. You can believe me or not, I really dont care.

Telling someone to go eff themselves is beyond classless - its unoriginal and moronic.

Cheryl
February 5, 2013 / 08:11

My Coyotes won last night. That's a good thing.

My trainer is not doing so well in the curling. He loses 6 to 3 in the first game, was close though until the end. Then he loses 7 to 6, another close one. Oh well, guess there is still a chance they could make it to the Brier. I don't know though. there are eight more games left.

Dave Williams
February 5, 2013 / 09:41

@Cheryl, hopefully Montreal defeats Boston tomorrow night. No Smitherman fan though.

Cheryl
February 6, 2013 / 07:57

Yes, the Habs are going to win. You're darn right they will win. PK Subban will get a hattrick.

My Suns won last night. That's good.

My trainer isn't doing great. Can't say he's doing terrible yet though either. He won a close one yesterday 8 to 7, but then lost the next one 9 to 4 so he's 1 and 3, not the worst though as there are a couple teams who haven't won. He'll probably win this morning though as the team he's playing is not very good.

Cheryl
February 6, 2013 / 18:53

My trainer didn't do very well today in curling. He lost 8 to 4 in the first game and 9 to 3 in the second game. I don't think they'll make the Brier, but four games are left so maybe if they get hot and win those, they could get into the playoffs. I don't know. As of now, they're second from the bottom.

Cheryl
February 7, 2013 / 09:50

Well, my trainer won the third game yesterday so they're better. Three more to go though. If they win, they could sneak into the playoffs. If they win playoffs, it's off to the Brier.

My Suns and Habs both lost last night. The only good thing about the Habs game was a goal by my favourite player, PK Subban. He's a superstar, the best.


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